i think one major point being missed here is that most boogies that lid dbah know that if you stick to the "lovers" end of the beach you won't cop any trouble. drift too far down to the tweed river end your going to burnt.

Jeroensurf said...

No matter how good the wave is or what happened on it, as long as there is nobody hurt there is no reason to start a fight about it.
The same with localism, if you go on a trip to Indo, Hawaii or wherever you also wanna surf on someone else his spot instead of kicked out of the water, so don,t act like a fool at your place.

No matter how good the waves are, I would never go in on a spot with such a vibe because it would spoil all the fun for me.
The surfer in this case is even with the rest of the story imo plain stupid.
He didn't need to go to the beach, he could also try to talk instead of jumping straight on him and at least keeping it fair and wait to the guy till he took of his finns.
A proud winner of this weeks a paddle in the arse award.

there is a need to maintain control in the water. i don't condone punching somebody in the water but if you are being a kook in the water and you get told by a local to paddle in then you paddle in and have a good think about why you got told to paddle in. it works in indo and it works in hawaii, you mess up there and you'll cop more than a fair fist fight on the beach. if you want an example of lack of line up control take a look at snapper. no respect, no rules means people are getting hurt and the place is a shambles. nobody should think they have a god given right to paddle out anywhere and be a kook.

I have heard all this locals rule stuff for over 30 years, truth is that if we all showed respect for one another then trouble would be minimised. The fact here is the surfer jumped the bloke, to be honest if I was there and saw the surfer take a swing at a bloke trying to take his fins off I would have taken a swing at the surfer and told him to bugger off. This idea that a few blokes in the lineup that are 'enforcers' is just another example of general thuggery. I don't think a 'local' has ever told me to paddle in, not here or indo or hawaii. My experience is that when people start getting the idea that they rule a place or they have some right to determine who is going to paddle out at their wave, then that person needs to travel or go live somewhere else and find out that they are not the 'bad ass' they think they are.

So he got punched by a booger after dropping in on the booger??? Then he hit the booger as he was trying to remove his flippers??? Then 5 blokes descend on the booger when he is beating the crap out of the surfer?

I have been surfing for around 38 years, number of fist fights on the beach here, indo or hawaii is zero.

Yea you have hit it in one Adept the thing here is respect and neither one is showing it. One of the things I like about SUP is that the whole thing is far more relaxed than surfing people share waves and cause it has more float and paddle power we can have a hoot on little waves.

husq2100 said...

gregc said...

One of the things I like about SUP is that the whole thing is far more relaxed than surfing people share waves and cause it has more float and paddle power we can have a hoot on little waves.

I dont care about those 2 guys having a knuckle, but I have to disagree with the above. For me SUP is another form of surfing and needs to follow the same rules as LB and SB. What doesnt stoke me is having more beginners paddle straight out into the line up and paddle into what ever wave they think the should, dropping in on other surfers and SUP'rs. This is becoming more common at the alley. I dont go for a SUP surf and make the effort to get into a better postion and wait my turn to be burnt/dropped in on or have some dick paddle in down the line thinking they are far enough away, only to get onto the wave proper as I just make a section and have my wave ended.

when I started I did plenty of flat water practice, including kick turns and then surfed the small **** waves alot before going out. My friends that surfed clued me in on the rules as did a few others when I did the wrong thing. Im certainly not perfect and I try and talk with the other surfers, like whether they are going or not etc. share a wave if its a good mate or if you are called on but thats it.

well said...and wear a leggie

actually just had another read of the post Husq did and I must say Im somewhat confused, are you saying that SUP doesn't have a different attitude? Really?? I find the SUP culture to be far more relaxed than most others, are you also saying we can't surf little stuff and have a hoot??? Really? I love my time spent on small waves in places people couldn't surf normally ( a little river mouth that I SUP on is one of the best spots I have ever been to). Mate if your new to the whole surfing thing and you already are feeling a bit bitter and twisted that aint good. Sharing waves is something that used to be a normal surfing thing, and yes it was by invitation but it was a reasonably normal thing to do. SUP in my opinion is a step back to the good old days (of which I was around for a bit of it) where the time in the water was spent laughing and chatting and having a good time not vibing each other out. AND YES WEAR A LEGROPE

yeh GregC I'd like to agree with you and believe in the aloha spirit.
But thats not unfortunately the direction our new sport is heading.
I agree with husq the same surf rules should apply to sups.
Just returned from merimbula and after being bombed one afternoon by a group of so called pro suppers along with their camera crews , they showed no aloha wouldn't make eye contact and believed they had the right to every wave because they had a camera crew shooting their every move.
Came home home feeling very negative about the direction of our new sport.

glennc said...

yeh GregC I'd like to agree with you and believe in the aloha spirit.
But thats not unfortunately the direction our new sport is heading.
I agree with husq the same surf rules should apply to sups.
Just returned from merimbula and after being bombed one afternoon by a group of so called pro suppers along with their camera crews , they showed no aloha wouldn't make eye contact and believed they had the right to every wave because they had a camera crew shooting their every move.
Came home home feeling very negative about the direction of our new sport.

name them. it was dj, og sup and pt woody wasn't it

gregc, Sup is the same but different. Same: there are those that do the right thing and those that dont. (Same as LB, SB and Booge) The difference is the type of people that are getting into it (some of) and the ability for them to by-pass the normal hard slog. Take for example the older guy/gal on a LB or SB, sure he might not be the best surfer, but he/she can paddle well, take the drop, know where they are whether on the wave or paddling out and know the basic rules. As far as sharing waves back in the day, sure ive seen the B&W photos of old school stuff, but then again, pocket surfing wasnt big then either. FOR ME, I like to push myself anf try and improve. The last thing I want to do is drive off a bottom turn( Like I said try) and then hit someone else. I get frustrated because Im making the effort so as not to be a danger or make someone elses wave/day ****, so I expect the same....

SUP is worse because it stands out so much more visually. I surf the GC and more often than not the alley. I can count the time on one hand I have surfed the point right at the rock. Sat was one and was great. I did get one or two stink eye, but just stare back...but was also talking with LB and SB guys/girls and a young Booger...after the early morning crowd thinned it was a good vibe and still a fair few out. Thing is I can also tell you that 99% of the time its the good LB and SB guys getting the pick of the waves and more of them.... why, because the have done the time and are good enough to get into a better position and read the surf with more knowledge....but SUP'rs "sharing" waves is doing nothing for the image or the agro.

BTW 3 leggies broke, 2 SUP and 1 LB, I saved 2 of the boards.

husq2100 said...

gregc, Sup is the same but different. Same: there are those that do the right thing and those that dont. (Same as LB, SB and Booge) The difference is the type of people that are getting into it (some of) and the ability for them to by-pass the normal hard slog. Take for example the older guy/gal on a LB or SB, sure he might not be the best surfer, but he/she can paddle well, take the drop, know where they are whether on the wave or paddling out and know the basic rules. As far as sharing waves back in the day, sure ive seen the B&W photos of old school stuff, but then again, pocket surfing wasnt big then either. FOR ME, I like to push myself anf try and improve. The last thing I want to do is drive off a bottom turn( Like I said try) and then hit someone else. I get frustrated because Im making the effort so as not to be a danger or make someone elses wave/day ****, so I expect the same....

SUP is worse because it stands out so much more visually. I surf the GC and more often than not the alley. I can count the time on one hand I have surfed the point right at the rock. Sat was one and was great. I did get one or two stink eye, but just stare back...but was also talking with LB and SB guys/girls and a young Booger...after the early morning crowd thinned it was a good vibe and still a fair few out. Thing is I can also tell you that 99% of the time its the good LB and SB guys getting the pick of the waves and more of them.... why, because the have done the time and are good enough to get into a better position and read the surf with more knowledge....but SUP'rs "sharing" waves is doing nothing for the image or the agro.

BTW 3 leggies broke, 2 SUP and 1 LB, I saved 2 of the boards.

i was one of the guys giving you the stink eye you son of bitch




















because i couldn't go up there with the big board

husq2100 said...

laceys lane said...
i was one of the guys giving you the stink eye you son of bitch




















because i couldn't go up there with the big board

youll have to sort yourself a board mate....that time of year. BTW did you do any DW last week/s with the swell and the southerlies????

yeah, its been pretty good for that lately. getting a 8'8 dc channel bottom

2 pages of dribble...get a life you morons

Scotty88 said...

This video highlights how overated fighting on your feet is.

Not enough triangles for your liking?

Judging stand up fighting on those two would be the same as saying surfing is over rated based on some one of my surfing ability. But to their credit they had a bloody good go.

gumballs said...

fINALY WATCHED IT(IVE BEEN McAFFED AT WORK CANT WATCH A BLOODY THING ANY MORE)wHO SAID THEY CANT FIGHT?hMM...tHEY BOTH WENT WELL.aNYONE WHO HAS SPENT MORE THAN ONE MINUTE IN A REAL FIGHT WILL KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO KEEP YOUR BREATH AND PACE YOUR SELF.aS FOR THE FIGHT ITS SELF i FIRMLY BELIVE THAT WHEN 2 MALES HAVE A CONFRONTATION **** NEEDS TO BE SORTED RIGHT THEIR AND THEN.tHEY BOTH PROBABLY WALKED AWAY WITH SUPERFICIAL WOUNDS ON THE DAY BUT i BET THAT BOTH BOOGER AND STANDER NOW SHOW A LITTLE MORE RESPECT TOWARDS EACHOTHER.aND i RECON THEIR MATES MAY HAVE ALSO DEFLATED A TOUCH.

aRE YOU YELLING OR DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR CAP LOCKS?