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laceys lane
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i got to thinking about some of the gold coast beach names, which i think are aboriginal, after the standup and be counted post(i have wondered about it before). does anyone know anything about the subject?
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PTWoody
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20 Jul 2010 6:59pm
I'm pretty sure Coolangatta is aboriginal for "There was shrinkage!"
laceys lane
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20 Jul 2010 7:09pm
i've googled a few names now. they are aboriginal, but it seems as if the place namers as we know those the areas now, used aboriginal meanings to make names, but doesn't seem to be what the aboriginals them selfs called the areas in most cases from what i seen so far
tha dogman
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20 Jul 2010 7:09pm
shhhhhhhh lacey they are all secret spots don't let tha cat outta tha bag
aus301
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20 Jul 2010 7:11pm
PTWoody said...

I'm pretty sure Coolangatta is aboriginal for "There was shrinkage!"


I realise you're not serious but Coolangatta was named after the ship "Coolangatta" that was wrecked off its coast.

I know Bilinga was derived from the word for bats, and Tugun meant "breaking wave". Not sure on any others as these are the areas I grew up in.

laceys lane
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20 Jul 2010 7:14pm
tha dogman said...

shhhhhhhh lacey they are all secret spots don't let tha cat outta tha bag


hey dogman, we are talking about the goldie here, you know, the place with a few highrises around

ps i saw one of your heat scores at the nsw titles- must be just about the highest two wave sup score i've seen. what happen- did you run out of bribe money for the final. just kidding, your time will come
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laceys lane
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20 Jul 2010 7:16pm
aus301 said...

PTWoody said...

I'm pretty sure Coolangatta is aboriginal for "There was shrinkage!"


I realise you're not serious but Coolangatta was named after the ship "Coolangatta" that was wrecked off its coast.

I know Bilinga was derived from the word for bats, and Tugun meant "breaking wave". Not sure on any others as these are the areas I grew up in.




www.answers.com/search?q=Aboriginal%20meaning%20for%20Coolangatta
Coolangatta is not an aboriginal word in its purest form. The word is believed to be an Anglicised derivation of an aboriginal word meaning "beautiful place".
aus301
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20 Jul 2010 7:32pm
from the site www.coolangatta.net/coolangatta/history.html

Coolangatta's European History

Captain Cook sailed past Coolangatta and the Gold Coast in 1770 at which time he named both Point Danger and Mount Warning. Their names reflected the apparent danger the area presented to ships navigating off the Gold Coast. A light house was later erected at Point Danger to warn ships of the potential hazards and it became the first lighthouse in the world to attempt to use laser technology to aid in navigation. Their efforts were unsuccessful and the advanced technology was replaced with the tried and proven conventional navigation aids involving the use of high powered lamps.

Despite Cook's efforts, in 1846 a ship named the "Coolangatta" was wrecked off the coast and the town was named in its honour. Thanks to the Surveyor General of the day, many of the place names on the Gold Coast have been derived form Aboriginal words and the word "Coolangatta" is said to mean "beautiful place".

After the closure of the convict settlement further north where Brisbane is today, many of the newly freed settlers made the move south to the Gold Coast and Coolangatta and it fast became a popular holiday retreat as far back as 1880. The settlers included timber getters, cane farmers, cotton growers, oyster farmers, fisherman and the constant flow of visitors to the area inspired early entrepreneurs and developers. Coolangatta was one of the earliest resort destinations on the Gold Coast and today its beautiful beaches attract visitors from all over the world.


And while on the subject of local history, it was found a while back that Cook actually named what is now Fingal Head Point Danger, but due to what is now Point Danger being the reference point for the border it was decided to leave the names as they stand.
teatrea
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20 Jul 2010 7:35pm
Found out Tallebudgera means good fish.
Simondo
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20 Jul 2010 7:38pm
Yeah, Coolangatta does sound aboriginal.

Geelong is actually an Anglocised version of Jillong, the aboriginal name for the bay, which is now called Corio Bay. And they called the land around that area Corio. So the white fellas sort of ended up getting it all arse about anyway !

Another version of the naming of Geelong, was that a black-fella was walking past and commented to his mate, "Gee - long way away!". But that is not correct !! Or should it be rename as Geelongwayaway !!

laceys lane
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aus301 said...

from the site www.coolangatta.net/coolangatta/history.html

Coolangatta's European History

Captain Cook sailed past Coolangatta and the Gold Coast in 1770 at which time he named both Point Danger and Mount Warning. Their names reflected the apparent danger the area presented to ships navigating off the Gold Coast. A light house was later erected at Point Danger to warn ships of the potential hazards and it became the first lighthouse in the world to attempt to use laser technology to aid in navigation. Their efforts were unsuccessful and the advanced technology was replaced with the tried and proven conventional navigation aids involving the use of high powered lamps.

Despite Cook's efforts, in 1846 a ship named the "Coolangatta" was wrecked off the coast and the town was named in its honour. Thanks to the Surveyor General of the day, many of the place names on the Gold Coast have been derived form Aboriginal words and the word "Coolangatta" is said to mean "beautiful place".

After the closure of the convict settlement further north where Brisbane is today, many of the newly freed settlers made the move south to the Gold Coast and Coolangatta and it fast became a popular holiday retreat as far back as 1880. The settlers included timber getters, cane farmers, cotton growers, oyster farmers, fisherman and the constant flow of visitors to the area inspired early entrepreneurs and developers. Coolangatta was one of the earliest resort destinations on the Gold Coast and today its beautiful beaches attract visitors from all over the world.



hey aus301, i don't get it.was it just lucky the ship was named coolongatta which just so happens kinda means beautiful place in aboriginal?
teatrea
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20 Jul 2010 7:39pm

Kirra
Kirra was Aboriginal for boomerang. The railway station was so named by the Railway Department in 1932.
Simondo
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20 Jul 2010 7:45pm
I boomerang was boomerang !! But there are a heap of aboriginal languages.

The lead singer from Warumpi Band rocked up to France, and couldn't understand why all these educated white people couldn't speak english, whilst he himself spoke english and at least 12 aboriginal languages. Which are possibly better described as dialects (???).

Edit;
From Wiki - but it also said they had a few names for the boomerang.
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In 1822 it was described in detail and recorded as a "bou-mar-rang", in the language of the Turuwal people (a sub-group of the Dharug) of the Georges River near Port Jackson. The Turnawal used other words for their hunting sticks but used "boomerang" to refer to a returning throw-stick.[7] They were also mistakenly referred to as a woomerang, in confusion with the spear-thrower woomera.
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tha dogman
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20 Jul 2010 7:46pm
laceys lane said...

tha dogman said...

shhhhhhhh lacey they are all secret spots don't let tha cat outta tha bag


hey dogman, we are talking about the goldie here, you know, the place with a few highrises around

ps i saw one of your heat scores at the nsw titles- must be just about the highest two wave sup score i've seen. what happen- did you run out of bribe money for the final. just kidding, your time will come
cheers


yer ran out of money quickly lacey

you know me lacey i came out of the box like a bull thru the gate revin on all cylinders
then rounded the last bend and spat a valve or 6 and was left standing out the back waiting for a wave while everyone had already packed up and drove home to feed the cat and slip on their slippers in front of the fire

the waves were great for a change

laceys lane
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20 Jul 2010 7:50pm
tha dogman said...

laceys lane said...

tha dogman said...

shhhhhhhh lacey they are all secret spots don't let tha cat outta tha bag


hey dogman, we are talking about the goldie here, you know, the place with a few highrises around

ps i saw one of your heat scores at the nsw titles- must be just about the highest two wave sup score i've seen. what happen- did you run out of bribe money for the final. just kidding, your time will come
cheers


yer ran out of money quickly lacey

you know me lacey i came out of the box like a bull thru the gate revin on all cylinders
then rounded the last bend and spat a valve or 6 and was left standing out the back waiting for a wave while everyone had already packed up and drove home to feed the cat and slip on their slippers in front of the fire

the waves were great for a change




classic answer lol
Th0m0
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20 Jul 2010 7:50pm
PTWoody said...

I'm pretty sure Coolangatta is aboriginal for "There was shrinkage!"




I always reckon when it's hot in Brisbane, it's Coolangatta.

John Oxley, Surveyor General of New South Wales, Robert Stirling, a cartographer and John Uniacke, a colonial officer landed from the cutter ‘Mermaid’ on a Gold Coast beach in 1823.

The Queensland Minister for Lands approved the name Mermaid Beach on 11th September 1946. (McRobbie, Alexander, Gold Coast Heritage, p2)
aus301
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20 Jul 2010 7:51pm
laceys lane said...

aus301 said...

from the site www.coolangatta.net/coolangatta/history.html

Coolangatta's European History

Captain Cook sailed past Coolangatta and the Gold Coast in 1770 at which time he named both Point Danger and Mount Warning. Their names reflected the apparent danger the area presented to ships navigating off the Gold Coast. A light house was later erected at Point Danger to warn ships of the potential hazards and it became the first lighthouse in the world to attempt to use laser technology to aid in navigation. Their efforts were unsuccessful and the advanced technology was replaced with the tried and proven conventional navigation aids involving the use of high powered lamps.

Despite Cook's efforts, in 1846 a ship named the "Coolangatta" was wrecked off the coast and the town was named in its honour. Thanks to the Surveyor General of the day, many of the place names on the Gold Coast have been derived form Aboriginal words and the word "Coolangatta" is said to mean "beautiful place".

After the closure of the convict settlement further north where Brisbane is today, many of the newly freed settlers made the move south to the Gold Coast and Coolangatta and it fast became a popular holiday retreat as far back as 1880. The settlers included timber getters, cane farmers, cotton growers, oyster farmers, fisherman and the constant flow of visitors to the area inspired early entrepreneurs and developers. Coolangatta was one of the earliest resort destinations on the Gold Coast and today its beautiful beaches attract visitors from all over the world.



hey aus301, i don't get it.was it just lucky the ship was named coolongatta which just so happens kinda means beautiful place in aboriginal?


Yeah it seems to make little sense, I guess they used the name and then looked into its meaning... just lucky it didn't mean "place for bowel relief". I remember riding past the old anchor from the Coolangatta at the monument at the south end of North Kirra as a kid on my way to Kirra, back when Kirra was good :-(.
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20 Jul 2010 7:55pm
Th0m0 said...



I always reckon when it's hot in Brisbane, it's Coolangatta.



Ha, thats funny. A friend of mine from primary school (coolangatta state school) father came up with that slogan and had heaps of stickers made for it back in about 1986 or so. Buggered if I can remember anything about him beyond that he was an architect and lived above his office in Griffith street.
laceys lane
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20 Jul 2010 8:07pm

this item talks a bit about burleigh heads


In 1840, surveyor J. R. Warner was commissioned to survey the coastline near Moreton Bay. Warner named the headlands near Tallebudgera Creek, 'Burly Head' because of its massive appearance. Over the years Burly was changed to Burleigh.

William Hanlon, whose childhood memories of the district went back to the 1870s, recorded in 1935 that for local Aborigines, Big Burleigh was 'Jellurgul'; Little Burleigh was 'Jebbribillum' or the Waddy of 'Jebreen'.

In another article, Hanlon referred to 'Jellurgul' as meaning sugar bag or bee's nest. Another identity who knew the area and its inhabitants well from the 1870s, was Archibald Meston. He recalled fifty years later that the local Aborigines called Big Burleigh 'Jayling' (black) and 'Gumbelmoy' (rock), after the volcanic black basalt rock of the headland
Minkee
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20 Jul 2010 8:47pm
you beat me to it...
Plenty of aboriginal mark around the headland.

I read a book about the Kombumerri a while ago, there was plenty of info in it. I'm sure you'll find someting in one of the GCCC library.

For the story, Currumbin is derived from Kurrohmin apparently which means kangaroo?!
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20 Jul 2010 8:56pm
teatrea said...


Kirra
Kirra was Aboriginal for boomerang. The railway station was so named by the Railway Department in 1932.


I was of the impression Kirra was originally Kiara meaning something like a cockatoos crest. Kirra hill was a minion (eating place) and you can only imagine the waves they might have watched with the plumes looking a bit like a cockys crest. Could be wrong though.
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20 Jul 2010 9:14pm
The lumber ship coolangatta was owned by people that also owned a property that still exists today not far from Ulladulla. They named their ship the same name. It was wrecked in a cyclone on anchor during a cyclone as the Tweed was impassable. Washed up at North Kirra or Coolangatta creek.

Who said you learnt nothing at palm beach Currumbin high? Hard with the beach across the road and 5 swimwear models to every class I tell ya!
laceys lane
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20 Jul 2010 9:26pm
CMC said...

The lumber ship coolangatta was owned by people that also owned a property that still exists today not far from Ulladulla. They named their ship the same name. It was wrecked in a cyclone on anchor during a cyclone as the Tweed was impassable. Washed up at North Kirra or Coolangatta creek.

Who said you learnt nothing at palm beach Currumbin high? Hard with the beach across the road and 5 swimwear models to every class I tell ya!


nice work cmc, it had me baffled with the ship sinking, come naming, come meaning of beautiful place. now it all fits together

if only you used your learning for good and niceness instead of evil and badness and animal cunning poor helpless swimsuit models
teatrea
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20 Jul 2010 9:42pm
CMC said...

teatrea said...


Kirra
Kirra was Aboriginal for boomerang. The railway station was so named by the Railway Department in 1932.


I was of the impression Kirra was originally Kiara meaning something like a cockatoos crest. Kirra hill was a minion (eating place) and you can only imagine the waves they might have watched with the plumes looking a bit like a cockys crest. Could be wrong though.


I think it means place of lost barrells.

aus301
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20 Jul 2010 9:56pm
Minkee said...


For the story, Currumbin is derived from Kurrohmin apparently which means kangaroo?!


I have read three different ideas for Currumbin, one of them was also that in one dialect it was the name for quicksand. This may have been given to the area due to the sandy nature of the estuary... the other one I can't remember.

laceys lane
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20 Jul 2010 10:05pm
aus301 said...

Minkee said...


For the story, Currumbin is derived from Kurrohmin apparently which means kangaroo?!


I have read three different ideas for Currumbin, one of them was also that in one dialect it was the name for quicksand. This may have been given to the area due to the sandy nature of the estuary... the other one I can't remember.




yeah, this might be it
Currumbin & Currumbin Valley & Currumbin Waters

1. According to the Australia Post Office History, the word 'Currumbin' means 'high up' or 'place where high trees grow'.

2. Currumbin is derived from 'kurrohmin, meaning kangaroo.
Steele, J.G., Aboriginal Pathways in Southeast Queensland and the Richmond River, p62

3. "The word 'Currumbin' is of native origin and means 'quicksand'. In the old days of travel along the coast there was a ford across the creek at Currumbin which could be negotiated at low tide but had to be carefully taken owing to the quicksand which was prevalent in Currumbin Creek" (An historic letter written by Isobel Hannah to Mr Hartley of Geelong).

In the late 19th century, coaches took mail and passengers from Southport over the Nerang River via Meyers Ferry. They travelled along the beach using tidal crossings at Tallebudgera and Currumbin Creeks to finally reach Coolangatta/Tweed Heads. Another coach and mail service travelled from Tallebudgera to Currumbin Valley over Tomewin to Murwillumbah in New South Wales.

The Nerang to Tweed Rail line opened in 1903 and with improved access, a number of pioneer families settled and developed farms around the estuary and in the Currumbin Valley or Currumbin Creek area as it was once known.
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21 Jul 2010 8:47am
I read somewhere Kirra meant "cloud with a silver lining"...
So many interpretations :)

There's an Aboriginal museum in the back streets of Tweed I think (not these streets...), it might worth a visit one day. There'd be plenty of info there amongst other books I'd think.
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21 Jul 2010 10:04am
Coolangatta Estate still exists.It is now a Winery.It sits on the southeast slope of Mount Coolangatta.
Situated 1km west of Shoalhaven Heads on the northern bank of the Shoalhaven river. Alexander Berry and his mate Woolstonecraft were given the DISTRICT to do with as they liked back in 1822.
To get the cedar,livestock and veges to market in Sydney (100 miles)they constructed a shipyard.The pride and joy of that shipyard was 'The Coolangatta'
In 1846 that barque went aground at what is now Coolangatta.
The local dialect psuedo translation for Coolangatta is SPLENDID VIEW.
Also related is the creek across the road from me named Currumbene creek.
Originally spelt Cooroombun creek.Sounds heaps like Currumbin to me.
Jack
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