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laceys lane
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4 Apr 2011 5:49pm
more people will get 12'6s surf race boards and realize how much fun they are


they will be used on small days and bigger fatter days out wide or away from others


they will get as many waves as they wish without any crowd issues


they will realize how much of a pain in the arse short sups are and its not really why they tried sup ing in the first place.


they will go back to their shortboards and mals etc in nice waves and surf better than they ever have in their whole lifes because the 12'6s have refined their base surf skills

this in turn will lead to surf race comps and more people keen for ocean paddling

amen


ridiculous- maybe, maybe not. flame on




Adapt
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4 Apr 2011 5:59pm
Interesting thoughts Lacey, this means that our surf culture would nearly make a full cirlce with longer boards coming back into style. The only difference this time round would be that participants would have paddles to use instead to make catching waves easier and the boards wouldn't be made out of Balsa or heavier woods. I like were this is going, whether it happens or not is a different story.
DavidJohn
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4 Apr 2011 6:16pm
You maybe right.. but for me I'd rather a 14 anyday over a 12'6" for both flat water and down-winders and I'm not a big fan of using a huge 12'6er in the waves.

DJ
laceys lane
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4 Apr 2011 6:17pm
Adapt said...

Interesting thoughts Lacey, this means that our surf culture would nearly make a full cirlce with longer boards coming back into style. The only difference this time round would be that participants would have paddles to use instead to make catching waves easier and the boards wouldn't be made out of Balsa or heavier woods. I like were this is going, whether it happens or not is a different story.


it's a bit of a poke in the eye topic, however i see a lot of people who have ventured out in the surf with their 12'6 surf race, bop or whatever they are going to be called boards , not spending very much time on their normal sups anymore.

these boards are as close as it can be to 'do it all '
cheers
laceys lane
laceys lane
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4 Apr 2011 6:22pm
DavidJohn said...

You maybe right.. but for me I'd rather a 14 anyday over a 12'6" for both flat water and down-winders and I'm not a big fan of using a huge 12'6er in the waves.

DJ


hey dj, last week i surfed a 15 footer wide alley on a higher tide, but they were proper waves. you get an incredible buzz surfing something like that

not easy be anymeans
akhawk
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4 Apr 2011 4:22pm
If I had to narrow it down to one board to cover all bases as best as possible it would be either the new coreban or dc 12'6".
CMC
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4 Apr 2011 6:29pm
akhawk said...

If I had to narrow it down to one board to cover all bases as best as possible it would be either the new coreban or dc 12'6".


If I had to pick one to do it all it would be the DC14'. Ooops, I already picked it, it's in the garage.....

Couple of weeks ago, 5 feet wide Alley running them the whole way to the sand from out even with the rock. Don't even know how far that is, maybe 6 or 700m??
Flounder
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4 Apr 2011 6:39pm
Pretty much how it's panned out for me! I got a new short board (surf board) and have hardly touched my 9'6 SUP since. I reckon SUPs in good waves are like trying to drive a bus on a motocross track. If it's bigger than two foot I'd rather go surfing any day. I really do have so much fun though on those tiny days at the alley riding my Glide and I reckon it's a great workout too, trying to catch as many waves as you can. (Away from everyone else.) For me, that's when the big SUPs really comes into their own.
akhawk
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4 Apr 2011 4:54pm
CMC said...

akhawk said...

If I had to narrow it down to one board to cover all bases as best as possible it would be either the new coreban or dc 12'6".


If I had to pick one to do it all it would be the DC14'. Ooops, I already picked it, it's in the garage.....

Couple of weeks ago, 5 feet wide Alley running them the whole way to the sand from out even with the rock. Don't even know how far that is, maybe 6 or 700m??


Funny you should say that, because the one board that I currently have is the DC14. Guess I won't be getting rid of it anytime soon.
Simondo
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4 Apr 2011 7:20pm
I just like the fact that you throw it out there for thought/discussion. I hear you all the way!
OG SUP
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4 Apr 2011 7:57pm
Smokin work Lacey,

I love the longer boards in the surf, the PSH12er, the Munoz 12er and the Fanatic 12'6. The light weight carbon Fanatic swing weight is awesome.

The only thing you need to remember with these boards is when things go south, its a lot of board to go south with laughs.

Hence the PSH12er has been nicknamed "The Widow Maker"

Phill
teatrea
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4 Apr 2011 8:49pm
Right on Lacey , the two surfs ive had lately on the 12'6 are possibly the best ive ever had.Fattish crumbling waves = massive fun on these boards.I was having a chat to a longboarder and we where talking about how nice the waves where , and he said yeah but the paddle back out is a killer though.I just smiled and paddled back out to catch another 800m ride. Same session seen a couple blokes on shorter sups and they got a few good ones , but ill bet they werent having as much fun as me
62mac
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4 Apr 2011 6:58pm
Thank god for LL
Good on you for saying what you really think,lock the doors bro
laceys lane
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4 Apr 2011 9:03pm
62mac said...

Thank god for LL
Good on you for saying what you really think,lock the doors bro


nah, i'm pretty safe when rumor has it that 'BC' has now got a 12'6
JOYRIDER
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4 Apr 2011 7:11pm
if your nice about it.
surfers are normally more then happy to share.

if your a twit then you'll get hassled.

i've seen many people on both sides of the coin.

kooks on the water that get a stern talking too, and surfers that have paddled over to have a chat and ask where to get one.

12'6 or 8. its all the same to me.

just be happy and share and we should be fine anywhere
PTWoody
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4 Apr 2011 9:19pm
Good topic and great call.

A couple of us took our 14' DW boards as back up to our short wave board SUPs to a not-quite-working surf break yesterday and thank god we did. The short boards were useless in the barely breaking 2-3' bumps. But the big boards were a blast. Luckily all the mal riders overslept the change from daylight savings as I would have made a mess of a line up if anyone else was out there. As Phil says, when things go south, they go south quick.

But back on topic, must get myself a 12'6 surf race / BOP board.
Makaha
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4 Apr 2011 7:37pm
Flounder said...

Pretty much how it's panned out for me! I got a new short board (surf board) and have hardly touched my 9'6 SUP since. I reckon SUPs in good waves are like trying to drive a bus on a motocross track. If it's bigger than two foot I'd rather go surfing any day. I really do have so much fun though on those tiny days at the alley riding my Glide and I reckon it's a great workout too, trying to catch as many waves as you can. (Away from everyone else.) For me, that's when the big SUPs really comes into their own.


what he said,nobody comes out when its 2/3 plus,why?
Makaha
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4 Apr 2011 7:39pm
JOYRIDER said...

if your nice about it.
surfers are normally more then happy to share.

if your a twit then you'll get hassled.




YEP ^^^
planesailing
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4 Apr 2011 7:42pm
AMEN.
dtm
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4 Apr 2011 10:06pm
gee Ive actualy had a bad knee the last month or so are forced to ride my 14 footer down wind and love it but its got nothing on my 8'6" shortboard sup so i totaly disagee with everyone its way better on a shorter high performance sup man how i miss it, the bigger sup is fun but not really pushin the rush of surfing my local reef breaks on my shortie(sup)
Al Hunter
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4 Apr 2011 10:12pm
I must admit things have been changing lately
I've had a 14' surfboard style for some years that I use for fat outside bummys.
It's one of my favourite board because even when everybody else is struggling with conditions I still have some good surf. Much more fun than my own 12'6 on a wave.
But I've tried the last 12'6 dale came out with and it does surf a lot better that it used to, so maybe i'll start to think of keeping only 1 board instead of 2 previously wich would be good news for my increasingly complicated storage problem
JOYRIDER
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4 Apr 2011 8:21pm
are people getting injured because of 12'6 and up sups in the line up??
LAZZA1964
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4 Apr 2011 10:36pm
I think you are all on drugs !!!!!
JOYRIDER
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4 Apr 2011 8:55pm
i wish
laceys lane
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4 Apr 2011 10:59pm
i'll explain myself. i basically did shortboard sup for 2 and a half years, every day if not twice a day. getting boards shorter, more pulled in and refined on each board. the last board was a step rail 8'6 under a 100 litres. now the step rail is really good, but you don't get a lot of support/ stability outside of the very centre of the board. while the board surfed insane, i found myself prone paddling out of rips and swirls, after 3 days in a row i got too sore from holding me and the board upright and no matter how good a sup is, it's no shortboard.

the last day i surfed it i had some nice alley wide waves ,jm and myself were the only sups out so that was groovvvvy.

last wave in was my best, got the hollowest wave of the day.

thing is i got to the car and realized i was over it.

so i just stuck to the bigger sup boards for a while.
i did some shortboard surfing but had a terrible time of it.

anyway i had a few shortboard sessions over chrissy which was better, but kept paddling and surfing the big boys and was having fun again.

about a month ago i decided to get on the shortie again, remember it now about 4 months off the shortboard sups except for one go on a suplove. i was thinking to myself this is going to be very interesting not, but it was like i had never stopped short boarding- flow trim speed was instantly there. i was shocked(in a good way)

i've got this theory that shortboard sup ing is this weird mutant surf style all of its own where the big boards you have to have the basics right to surf them otherwise you just fall off and i'm finding this is really good for surfing shorties like it was when i started sup ping on an 11 footer rh.

so presently i'm happy surf ing12'6 s or 14' ers or bigger if i feel like it in small or fat of onshore rubbish and only surf the shortie in clean waves, no crowds, no point surfing. every time i surf the sb again it feels insane. such a buzz effortlessly flying around, so i can't see myself getting a shortboard sup any time soon.
you would also be surprised at what you can do on this big suckers if you keep at it, look at noels surfing on the 12'6 fanatic. i've never been a longerboarder so i'm no stylemaster, but i'm getting to the stage where i can pump the bigun down the line shortboard style. funny watching guys faces when i do that. fading and then cranking out a big bottom turn is a special feeling too

i'm not anti shortboard sup, just lost interest in it for the time being. i suppose if the alley wasn't there things might be different
cheers

ps i must add the last couple of years have been the time of my life ocean and surfing wise
rahams
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4 Apr 2011 11:06pm
first of all love the froth on this topic
to hear surfers are having a ball on 12 to 14 foot boards is unreall
my quiver goes from 6' to 14' can surf from no waves to best ever
onshore offshore dont care can have a ball whatever the conditions
lifes good
tha dogman
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4 Apr 2011 11:19pm
rahams said...

first of all love the froth on this topic
to hear surfers are having a ball on 12 to 14 foot boards is unreall
my quiver goes from 6' to 14' can surf from no waves to best ever
onshore offshore dont care can have a ball whatever the conditions
lifes good


your pisst again noel

arent ya

rahams
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4 Apr 2011 11:21pm
only a few
to many
tha dogman
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4 Apr 2011 11:24pm
nice and toasty
chrispychru
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5 Apr 2011 6:57am
geez give me a paddle pop stick and stick me in saltwater i will smile. just seeing the water makes me smile. i will ride anything given half a chance even the pigs at the grand hotel
husq2100
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5 Apr 2011 5:52pm
laceys lane said...
nah, i'm pretty safe when rumor has it that 'BC' has now got a 12'6


haha rumors are like that......if your refering to "bingo" he hasnt. He has paddled one ONCE! funny how the guy can paddle something and BAM! its on the internet rumor mill

BTW his go to board is a 7.3........his words were: try pulling into a 7 foot Samoa'n reef break on your 12.6
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