Thanks Guys ..yeah Pieter really knows his stuff, cannot wait to get it at the big A. And yes I'm staying with the Pope of the Inserted Mango Church on the Thurs of ST 8. His munficence offered a pallet for me to lay my weary body & I accepted (gulp). SA has scryed the interweb & its seems we may have some swell. All together now gimmie a... "alleluia".