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CaptFathom
CaptFathom
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22 May 2022 11:55am
A friend's gear - well looked after.... a very careful owner - definitely not scratches. Covers are used at all times when stowed. Wondering if it could be water affecting the gloss coat from being stored with covers while wet?
warwickl
warwickl
NSW
2360 posts
NSW, 2360 posts
22 May 2022 4:52pm
Did he polish the wing?
I did and now it looks like that.
King Crash
King Crash
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320 posts
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22 May 2022 8:32pm
CaptFathom said..
A friend's gear - well looked after.... a very careful owner - definitely not scratches. Covers are used at all times when stowed. Wondering if it could be water affecting the gloss coat from being stored with covers while wet?


Yes you're spot on. Very similar issues with axis foils. Wet foils stored in covers will milk up the hot coat.
A friend fixed his axis mast by Wet-sanding then Bunnings clear rattle can over it.

It doesn't make a difference on performance so I wouldn't be too bothered!
Sandman1221
Sandman1221
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22 May 2022 9:21pm
I always rinse foil with fresh water and let dry, if foil covers are wet inside open them up and let dry out too.

Do same for board and board bag, water can damage surface of board if it is wet too long, guessing days.
segler
segler
WA
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WA, 1663 posts
22 May 2022 10:58pm
The bigger question is whether it affects performance.
King Crash
King Crash
NSW
320 posts
NSW, 320 posts
23 May 2022 7:30am
segler said..
The bigger question is whether it affects performance.


Nope. Just visually milks the clear coat. Plus a wet sand every few months isn't a bad move for foils. Keep them true and blemish free
Freeflight
Freeflight
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120 posts
23 May 2022 7:55am
non waterproof biodegradable finish, great for the planet, thank you starboard
Sandman1221
Sandman1221
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2776 posts
23 May 2022 8:24am
King Crash said..

segler said..
The bigger question is whether it affects performance.



Nope. Just visually milks the clear coat. Plus a wet sand every few months isn't a bad move for foils. Keep them true and blemish free


What?, I have never wet sanded my AFS foil and never will, sanding removes material, why would I want to do that?
WindMode
WindMode
812 posts
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23 May 2022 1:45pm
Sandman1221 said..



King Crash said..




segler said..
The bigger question is whether it affects performance.






Nope. Just visually milks the clear coat. Plus a wet sand every few months isn't a bad move for foils. Keep them true and blemish free





What?, I have never wet sanded my AFS foil and never will, sanding removes material, why would I want to do that?




Foils shouldnt be polished shiney, general consensus seems to be 600-800 grit sandpaper is the way to go for best performance, but opinions differ a lot. I've even heard one foil designer say max 220 :O. The clear coat is bad regardless, only there for the looks, but bad for the performance. More drag and strange crashes at speed due to suddenly losing grip. Nico prien has a video about it.
CaptFathom
CaptFathom
TAS
93 posts
TAS, 93 posts
23 May 2022 4:52pm
Thanks for all of the feedback - might advise him to try wiping with acetone - works with water marks on furniture.
w100
w100
WA
284 posts
WA, 284 posts
23 May 2022 4:01pm
yeah, i've got something like than in my mast. According with the manufacturer it won't hurt the reliability. Just cosmetic
King Crash
King Crash
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320 posts
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23 May 2022 6:11pm
WhiteofHeart said..



Sandman1221 said..






King Crash said..







segler said..
The bigger question is whether it affects performance.









Nope. Just visually milks the clear coat. Plus a wet sand every few months isn't a bad move for foils. Keep them true and blemish free








What?, I have never wet sanded my AFS foil and never will, sanding removes material, why would I want to do that?







Foils shouldnt be polished shiney, general consensus seems to be 600-800 grit sandpaper is the way to go for best performance, but opinions differ a lot. I've even heard one foil designer say max 220 :O. The clear coat is bad regardless, only there for the looks, but bad for the performance. More drag and strange crashes at speed due to suddenly losing grip. Nico prien has a video about it.




Depends on who you talk to, some will say wet sand from 600-2000. Depends if you care enough.

Also @Sandman lol, that's the point of sanding it? If you're riding up the beach ect, it's a good idea.

@W100 Acetone will just strip stickers, won't really help
seaanchor
seaanchor
74 posts
74 posts
23 May 2022 10:10pm
Furniture if it gets watermarks can be removed by lighting methylated spirit on it you have to blow it out before it gets to hot but it draws the moisture out quiet well
segler
segler
WA
1663 posts
WA, 1663 posts
24 May 2022 2:14am
The main reason to wet sand around here is scratches caused by underwater rocks. I know, go deepter. We all do, but those rocks are everywhere within 50 meters of any launch. Even Flroda's coral gravel will scratch a foil.
Sandman1221
Sandman1221
2776 posts
2776 posts
24 May 2022 10:22am
I have lightly sanded out scratches, but they sounded like they were talking about sanding the WHOLE foil on a routine basis, do not see the purpose of that. Though I am on a bay with a sand bottom, so rarely get scratches on the wing and stabilizer.
ZeroVix
ZeroVix
371 posts
371 posts
24 May 2022 10:34am
Wet sanded finish is the best. Glossy also ventilates more easily. Use fresh water and alcohol to remove grease before use.
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