Does anybody still Windfoil once they have become proficient at Winging?

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tbwonder
tbwonder
NSW
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NSW, 761 posts
27 Oct 2026 6:41pm
I have windsurfed for over 30 years and have been windfoiling for the last 8. Over those 8 years I have gradually reduced my windsurfing sessions to perhaps 20% of all sessions with windfoiling slowly taking over. I have a range of windfoil kit from IQ race gear through to small freeride boards. I am comfortable in everything from 8 to 25 knots.

Over the last year the people who I have windfoiled with have gradually disappeared. Some gone back to windsurfing, some to winging and other given up altogether.

At my spot now 90% of sailors are winging. They all hounded me for a long time telling me how wonderful it was and that I should try it. So begrudgingly I went out and bought even more gear and set about the slow road of learning to wing. I now have 500km under my belt from over 40 sessions. Finally, I feel that I can actually do both.

So the question is will I do both, or will I gradually give up Windfoiling even though I enjoy it so much.
I would be interested in what other have done.
Mr Keen
Mr Keen
QLD
700 posts
QLD, 700 posts
27 Oct 2026 8:05pm
I have tried winging but even though the learning curve was easy, getting gybes and swell rides after 20 sessions or so I found it a bit vanilla. Windfoil/wimdsurf for me always. (Caveat-did not buy any winging gear. Was Lucky enough to use from busy windsports center) Each to their own, but the joy of being able to use wave sails from my windfoil quiver and get back on the fin in 25+ rocks😎
miamiwindsurfe
miamiwindsurfe
225 posts
225 posts
28 Oct 2026 12:28am
I just borrowed all the elements I liked about winging, like board shape, short fuselages,foils, no harness and minimal power needed(current sails 2.8 and 3.8 HSM microfreaks), and enjoying my thing. Avoiding things like paddling when the wind drops, etc. leashes,busted bladders.. but it's a personal thing
bel29
bel29
431 posts
431 posts
28 Oct 2026 1:27am
Much of this is very location specific, as well as a function of personal preferences etc. so I will refrain from trying to impose mine 😀 and will just raise one other consideration: if you are relying at least to some extent on wind sports to maintain (let alone gain) physical fitness, move away from windsurfing (and to a lesser extent, wind foiling) to your peril 😎
miamiwindsurfe
miamiwindsurfe
225 posts
225 posts
28 Oct 2026 2:13am
One of the reasons why I no longer use harness, small sails, efficient foils, not enough physical load for me if I use harness
sailortrash
sailortrash
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47 posts
28 Oct 2026 3:49am
Who cares, really, whatever makes u happy…

thedoor
thedoor
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2543 posts
28 Oct 2026 4:27am
If you hadn't mastered windfoiling I could see you dropping it altogether. Now you can do both, you can mix it up to keep things fresh.
tbwonder
tbwonder
NSW
761 posts
NSW, 761 posts
28 Oct 2026 12:16pm
I currently feel that I want to do both. Although on each day I do have to make the decision. I found that learning to windfoil significantly improved my windsurfing, especially gybes. Perhaps my new winging skills will improve my windfoiling.

I asked Chatgpt the same question. It gave an extremely long answer containing this piece of wisdom:
"You don't owe a sport loyalty simply because you've spent years mastering it. Equally, you don't have to abandon something you love just because its community has shrunk."
powersloshin
powersloshin
NSW
1871 posts
NSW, 1871 posts
28 Oct 2026 2:20pm
And parawinging....
Tony Polony
Tony Polony
NSW
342 posts
NSW, 342 posts
28 Oct 2026 7:29pm
Hi Andrew, I’m doing all three and enjoying them for what they have to offer.

In light to moderate winds I’m mainly windfoiling. In fresh to strong, I’m on the fin and when I feel like it, I’m on the wingding.

Note - my winging technique has a long way to go. Also, I have mainly ventured into winging so I can travel lighter when touring in our caravan.
kato
kato
VIC
3543 posts
VIC, 3543 posts
28 Oct 2026 10:12pm
I started my foil journey via wind foiling and moved quickly to wing foiling. It’s fun and not much gear to carry but it’s not windsurfing. I’m now winging less and windsurfing more. But when the wind backs off I’m onto the Sup surf foil stuff.
BullroarerTook
BullroarerTook
323 posts
323 posts
29 Oct 2026 4:47am
I do both but I prefer Windfoil. I basically “forced” myself to get good at winging because it’s so much easier to travel with the gear. I also learned some things about Windfoil from winging, but hat goes both ways. Here are the reasons I prefer Windfoil:

Equipment maturity. I don’t really worry about a bladder bursting or sail depreciation. A quiver of sails will last you longer than you want. Foils continue to get better, but that’s true for both sports. Stabs are often recommended for wing though so that can be annoying.
The waterstart. The glorious waterstart. All hail the inventor of the waterstart.
And yes, I admit I like the “road less travelled” aspect of it.
thedoor
thedoor
2543 posts
2543 posts
29 Oct 2026 12:58pm
tbwonder said..
I currently feel that I want to do both. Although on each day I do have to make the decision. I found that learning to windfoil significantly improved my windsurfing, especially gybes. Perhaps my new winging skills will improve my windfoiling.

I asked Chatgpt the same question. It gave an extremely long answer containing this piece of wisdom:
"You don't owe a sport loyalty simply because you've spent years mastering it. Equally, you don't have to abandon something you love just because its community has shrunk."


Chatgpt always sits the fence?
powersloshin
powersloshin
NSW
1871 posts
NSW, 1871 posts
31 Oct 2026 7:40am
Maybe should ask the question in the wingers forum ? probably would get more replies
Paducah
Paducah
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2887 posts
31 Oct 2026 6:16am
powersloshin said..
Maybe should ask the question in the wingers forum ? probably would get more replies


They would be more likely be the people who don't still windfoil once they became proficient at winging. 😄

One of our younger, more enthusiastic windsport guys learned to windfoil (had done a bit of windfoil before) and now had turned his attention to getting better on windfoil. The other week, he did a windy longboard race (he's done a few in less challenging conditions) and that really got him fired up. Sometimes you never know what will tickle someone's fancy and it doesn't have to be the latest and greatest. People still ride horses 130 years after the introduction of the automobile.
aeroegnr
aeroegnr
1786 posts
1786 posts
31 Oct 2026 8:00am
I did that brief foray into winging back in 2022? Almost got a jibe. Liked the free feeling but just stuck with windfoil and my duotone 6.0 has just been sitting there forgotten about.


Had my first session in a while after a dead summer and a newborn and it was fantastic just being on freeride fin kit hanging off a sail, then switching to windfoil when it got lighter. So much crossover. Sometimes I'm envious of the simplicity of a wing setup but at the moment I'm just going to wear out all the kit I bought for windsurf and windsurf foiling.
sailortrash
sailortrash
47 posts
47 posts
31 Oct 2026 8:20pm
I’ve had a couple of runs and I get the attraction. But as a seasoned fin/foil windsurfer it doesn’t really offer me anything unique. Especially as im 98% on flatwater

i love the hooked in way, that windfoiling improves my few session on a fin with 3.7, and this new dimension of backwind sailing.


You re stuck with the mastfoot pressure, for better or worse, which makes the foiling experience different vs eg sup, dockstart or even winging. But honestly, if true wave riding is what u r after, even the wingers complain. If it comes to that I rather go with a parawing or foil assist
Grantmac
Grantmac
2424 posts
2424 posts
1 Nov 2026 1:21am
I'm currently winging, but was windfoil 2018-2021 when I first tried winging then back to windfoil before making winging my foil sport in 2023.
I'm honestly very tempted to return to windfoil, winging has a very easy gybe and a lot of freedom on the wave but lacks the extreme efficiency of windfoil.

So I guess I'm a fence sitter just like the AI.
jdfoils
jdfoils
482 posts
482 posts
1 Nov 2026 11:29pm
I do both, nearly every day. 👍
Paducah
Paducah
2887 posts
2887 posts
3 Nov 2026 6:29am
jdfoils said..
I do both, nearly every day. 👍


Depending on conditions? Mood?

Needless to say, that sounds like a good set up.
jdfoils
jdfoils
482 posts
482 posts
3 Nov 2026 11:42pm
I tend to wing in lighter conditions and windfoil when it picks up.... 4.5 or 5.5 on the wing, 3.7 and below is windfoil.
Panno
Panno
55 posts
55 posts
4 Nov 2026 6:44am

I've been getting into parawinging lately.

I've never really done the winging thing. For me there was too much overlap with the freeride windfoiling I already do to justify the extra time and expense.

For me, parawinging fills a few gaps that windfoiling can't. A big one is travel. All of my gear fits in a standard 6'6" surf travel bag, so there's no oversized baggage on flights and it's easy to move around with. It also gives me access to spots that would be difficult or impossible on a windfoil because of shorebreaks and/or rock-off launches.

Even though I already flag out the sail and ride swells on the windfoil, parawing downwinding is on another level compared to both windfoiling and wingfoiling.

At the moment I'm probably parawinging more than I need to in conditions that would work well on the windfoil, that's mainly to build the muscle memory and get more proficient with it. Beyond that, the choice between parawinging and windfoiling is pretty straightforward for me and mostly comes down to the location and conditions and they don't often overlap.

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