Hi
I'm about to buy a new windfoiling board, probably the jp freefoil, doubting about volume and some of you have given me very good info I want to show here for everybody

Boardsurfr explained perfect in another post the different ways to take off.

I'm light and use small wave sails and big foil, focused only in light winds, basically planning with big sails and small foils or pumping with the opposite .

In the second option, a bigger board has any value? Another experienced guy explained me a bigger board unsticks less from the water, so it's useless if I don't want to use big sails.

I admit I'm lazy for slogging and uphauling so a bigger board would help me in this, but does the big board has any other cons for windfoiling? I know it's not cool 130 l for 70 kg. I know there would be some more swing weight, but the length is very close from 115 to 130, and when you are flying the volume doesn't disturb, right? 0,5 kg more is so much? I don't want to jump, I go strapless

The clear biggest con of a big board I was told by most is on progressing winging.

Thanks

At 77 cm wide the Freefoil is on the narrower side, under 80 cm, and that will help in unsticking the board. Lots of deck padding which is good for strapless. I like the color on the ES but the lower weight on the LXT. Built in nose protection, but would still add a nose protector.

Are you already windfoiling? Flat water or shore break, big swell/waves? I'm 62kg , freewave no harness,large foils, only front foot straps,all the way forward/inside used 10%.. had bigger boards for foil, 206cm length and 86/91cm x120l. Now already got one 172x80x118l in use Miami and another on order for Cabarete slightly less volume 114l. I can still tack my new boards. New board, less swing weight, more responsive, easier through shore break, overall more instance direct feel, should work good as a wing board(didn't try), cons: took 2-3 weeks to re-work my technique, would not recommend if you start windfoil and/or don't like pumping.

That board looks really nice honestly. With the option of tuttle/track and center rear position as well as all those plugs it should be super versatile.

I'm trying to compare it to the other foil boards I've ridden and it's a little longer (207 vs 193) and a little wider (77 vs 71) than the foilx 145, with the sail mast track a little further forward. I really like my foilx but I'm also quite a bit bigger than you at ~90kg. I do wish the 145 had a center rear strap, as instead it has two outboard positions on both front and rear. The 125 and 105 have a center. Also would be nice for it to have a track AND tuttle instead of just the tuttle.

There is also a guy here that is closer to your size, maybe a little lighter by a few kg, and he got a Severne Alien and rides it with small and larger sails and foils down to 650/725cm2. I think his is around 120l but I don't remember exactly, but it's an all around board for him.

The Wizard 114 was too little for me to reliable uphaul in swell. There's another guy here, however, in the exact same conditions that is your size that loves his 114 and uphauls it in the same swell that would put me in a Situation. And the 114 has track mounts, which I really like on more freeride oriented foil boards.

The foilx has tons of float but the volume is very centered. I can tack it in swell but it took getting used to as it's more like a cork than my other boards.

JP looks to make great boards, wish there were more around here to see.

I've seen another factor to take into account. I'm used to the rails of a traditional windsurfing board for windfoiling two years and first attempts of winging, which have been quite unstable although I practice supsurfing with 100 l board. Maybe the vertical rails of the specialised windfoiling and winging boards are more stable for uphauling and kneeling and allow to use narrower boards?

miamiwindsurfe said..
Are you already windfoiling? Flat water or shore break, big swell/waves? I'm 62kg , freewave no harness,large foils, only front foot straps,all the way forward/inside used 10%.. had bigger boards for foil, 206cm length and 86/91cm x120l. Now already got one 172x80x118l in use Miami and another on order for Cabarete slightly less volume 114l. I can still tack my new boards. New board, less swing weight, more responsive, easier through shore break, overall more instance direct feel, should work good as a wing board(didn't try), cons: took 2-3 weeks to re-work my technique, would not recommend if you start windfoil and/or don't like pumping.

Thanks all. I've windfoiled for two years now, not many days and not very good equipment, traditional windsurf board, big surf foil and small wave sails, strapless, stable flights and S paths, no jibes.

I don't have many days as my priority is wavesailing, so I want something easy to uphaul and shlog, to progress every day only in light winds.

At your weight with your goals maybe consider a 106L Hypernut.
I use one at 90kg for both light wind wavesailing and windfoil.

If you're in US , i think you can order a copy of my board from Tillo International directly if you hurry, estimated arrival November/December, the width is 80, but do to large bevels on sides the footprint on water is more of a 60cm board. As I wrote, for a lightweight, one can tack and uphaul it.

Grantmac said..
Wing and windfoil boards are not very similar at all. Unless you want to wing in very light wind then windfoil in high wind.
For instance a wing board doesn't need width at all. 62-64cm is lots. They also don't need that much volume. Bodyweight +5L is fine even in light wind.
That doesn't work for windfoiling.

The Hypernut catches waves extremely well even at my weight and the parallel rails go very well upwind.

I said at entry level, as indicated in the video from Slingshot
Both have flat rockers to take off, bevels and fat tails, in comparison with thin tails, longer and curved rockers of sup surfing boards. I must admit some longer crossover sup boards like the Naish Hover windfoil well, but all the reviews I've seen say they are long for windfoiling and short for supsurfing. A friend of mine has got one of them.

Of course, on progressing the sizes of windfoiling and winging boards are completely different.