Just wondering if anyone knows how much this complete foil weighs???

I can't seem to find the weight listed anywhere. I've read a few people say they are a bit heavy... but how much do they actually weigh and what's the weight difference between a similar foil from other brands???

cheers

CoreAS said..
weight will depend on the actual set up as there are different length masts, fuses and wings.
For a 90cm mast, with pedal stool, long fuse, i76 front wing and 42 rear wing. 12.54 lbs

the 926 carbon phantasm with 92 mast, medium fuse and 400 rear wing is 8.2 lbs

Awesome, thanks that's really helpful. I'd be curious for others to share weights of their similar sized set ups as well. 90cm mast i76 size wing, 42cm stabiliser etc.... alloy, carbon and or combination. Cheers

thedoor said..
This is a comparison of the Moses fuselage and 450 stabilizer with the 633 wing versus the hoverglide with the apollo 60/42 stabilizer. The units seem to be escaping me (grams I guess)

Cheers, definitely some significant weight differences.

bigdaz said..
Out of curiosity does anyone know what the Phantasm windsurf 730 foil complete weighs???

The 730 on the long fuse with 92 mast and 400 rear wing weighs 10.04 lbs

Hover Glide i99, short fuse, 48 tail, 90 mast: 6915g/15.2lbs
just the glider: 4182g/9.2lbs

Fanatic Aero HA 1750/300 wing set with 90cm mast and 80cm fuse: 6260g/13.78lbs
just the glider: 3336g/7.34lbs

Moses 790/82mast/710 fuse kit: 3800g/8.4lbs

Moses W1000 glider w/ 647mm fuse and S400 tail: 1785g/3.93lbs

Project Cedrus 90cm mast: 1660g/3.65lbs

My daily driver for winging: Project Cedrus 90cm mast w/ Moses W1000 glider: 3445g/7.58lbs

New NoLimitz foil mast 93cm will cut about 330g of weight compared to the Project Cedrus mast (which is already very light). Hope to get my tester mast soon. 93cm mast is 1330g/2.94lbs

I get my Phantasm 926 wing setup tomorrow.

www.sunsetsailboards.com/products/nolimitz-foil-mast

going into production now and new fuselage interfaces are being made. no firm ETA but some are already done.

so far 78, 85, & 93 are in production. they also are doing a smaller one for prone ~70cm

ZeroVix said..

sunsetsailboards said..
so far 78, 85, & 93 are in production. they also are doing a smaller one for prone ~70cm

Interesting. Why is NoLimtz good, except weight. Anybody tried them? What is going on with LP; in the same area? Are they working with NoLimtz at all or just left the scene.

NoLimtz is not just a windsurfing mast company their bread n butter is government contracts for composite parts military drone I've heard.I think they should be able to make a nice foil mast we will have to wait for the results.As far a LP have not heard anything but it would not surprise me to see some of these small guys disappear the foil market is moving real fast.

ZeroVix said..

sunsetsailboards said..
so far 78, 85, & 93 are in production. they also are doing a smaller one for prone ~70cm

Interesting. Why is NoLimtz good, except weight. Anybody tried them? What is going on with LP; in the same area? Are they working with NoLimtz at all or just left the scene.

I am getting one for evaluation. Will see how it performs relative to the SABFoil Surf Mast and PC mast.

NoLimitz mast is supposed to be stiff and light, achieved through architecture, materials, and composites manufacturing expertise.

NoLimitz is the house brand of ICE (Innovative Composite Engineering) which primarily makes parts for the aerospace/military/industrial industry.

www.innovativecomposite.com

They also have a recreational sports division which makes bike parts, windsurfing masts, etc... and now foil masts. The owner is into foiling now. My friend is the recreational sports division manager, and he's a badass windsurfer and foiler.

sunsetsailboards said..
Phantasm PTM 926 Wing Complete Foil: 4209g/9.26lbs

Glider: 2253g/4.96lbs

Carbon Mast 92: 1933g/4.25lbs
710 Fuselage: 958g/2.11lbs
PTM 926 Front Wing: 1088g/2.39lbs
PS400 Rear Wing: 184.5g/0.41lbs
Screws: 45g

Just arrived in the mail. First impressions are that it looks good. Actually rode it at the AWSI show in the Gorge but need to ride it w/ my own equipment to make a full impression.

QC/finish quality seems better than HoverGlide but not as good as Fanatic or SABFoil. Good enough but some rough corners on front wing. Fit of the wings to fuselage is good. Fit of the fuselage onto the mast is tight... might need a mallet.

Smear some of that grease they send in the bag on the mast foot and its no issue connecting in or out of the fuse.