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Created by owain 1 month ago, 2 Mar 2020
owain
NSW, 183 posts
2 Mar 2020 8:46PM
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I have damaged the bottom right corner of my nice new board (Slingshot Wizard 125). I had it standing up on a concrete garage floor and didn't realise the board bag wasn't completely zipper up :(

I suspect it may be superficial but not 100% sure.

What would be the ideal way to repair this or can anyone recommend a good board repair person in Sydney?





mr love
VIC, 1915 posts
2 Mar 2020 10:43PM
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Just a flesh wound by the look of it.

owain
NSW, 183 posts
2 Mar 2020 11:03PM
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mr love said..
Just a flesh wound by the look of it.


Yea to be honest I am not sure what materials I am looking at.

The photos actually make it look worse as the amount of material missing would be less than a mm...

Subsonic
WA, 1934 posts
2 Mar 2020 8:13PM
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"Tis but a scratch"


quick lick of epoxy or epoxy filler perhaps, but it looks really minor. Probably just a bit of lost paint by the looks.

Subsonic
WA, 1934 posts
2 Mar 2020 8:14PM
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Nice couch by the way...

owain
NSW, 183 posts
2 Mar 2020 11:21PM
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Subsonic said..
Nice couch by the way...


decrepit
WA, 9851 posts
2 Mar 2020 9:39PM
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I'm not too sure, I don't like the look of that white stuff, is it soft? Looks like Styrofoam, that shouldn't be so close to the surface. If it's hard probably just Q-cell and epoxy bog, and as everybody has said, just rebog and paint. If it's soft, I'd be returning it to seller, could be a very poor repair job, that's only put a very thin layers of glass over the core. If that's been caused by just resting on a concrete floor, there's something wrong. Good core construction should withstand a mild impact ,with virtually no damage, just a surface scratch perhaps.

duzzi
223 posts
3 Mar 2020 1:52AM
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owain said..
I have damaged the bottom right corner of my nice new board (Slingshot Wizard 125). I had it standing up on a concrete garage floor and didn't realise the board bag wasn't completely zipper up :(

I suspect it may be superficial but not 100% sure.

What would be the ideal way to repair this or can anyone recommend a good board repair person in Sydney?







Hard to tell from the photo but it looks like the damage is through what would be a very thin glass layer? It is very small and you can still fix it with just some two component epoxy, but if it is through the glass layer it is not a good indication of a sound construction ....

Madge
NSW, 213 posts
3 Mar 2020 7:11AM
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get a bit of the stuff that plumbers use, U need it, from Bunnings. Cheapest and best option, dry in minutes.

mathew
VIC, 1803 posts
3 Mar 2020 11:34AM
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Madge said..
get a bit of the stuff that plumbers use, U need it, from Bunnings. Cheapest and best option, dry in minutes.


... and porus.

owain
NSW, 183 posts
3 Mar 2020 1:36PM
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I found this thread recommending some local repair shops (Sydney) so will ring around and see who can help. Not feeling very confident in throwing some epoxy on to a unknown material :S

Edit: www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Any-carbon-board-repairers-in-Sydney-or-near-by-?

azymuth
WA, 996 posts
3 Mar 2020 1:49PM
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duzzi said.. but if it is through the glass layer it is not a good indication of a sound construction ....



Really? Your assertions/insinuations that Slingshot gear is lacking in quality are getting tedious.

In the real world the 3 of us who foil the most in the ocean here in Perth (close to 1,000 sessions collectively) in a rocky/reef environment in biggish swells and winds up to 30 knots, have had no major issues with SS Hoverglide foils or Wizard boards

remery
WA, 454 posts
3 Mar 2020 2:36PM
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Paducah
830 posts
3 Mar 2020 2:41PM
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owain said..
I found this thread recommending some local repair shops (Sydney) so will ring around and see who can help. Not feeling very confident in throwing some epoxy on to a unknown material :S

Edit: www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Any-carbon-board-repairers-in-Sydney-or-near-by-?


The epoxy is the easy part. If the underlying is just bog to fair out the corner, no worries. If the underlying is foam, it indicates that someone may have had a bad day at the factory and the skin is unusually thin there. Poke at it with a pin or similar and see if the white stuff is hard or soft. If it's hard, just use any of the suggested epoxy solutions, sand and paint to suit. If it's foam, have a chat with your seller as it strikes many of us as it shouldn't be that thin there. Even if that' s the case, a bit of epoxy and glass will get you water tight (the glass is just insurance) and back on the water in the meantime. Slingshot boards usually put up with a fair amount of abuse.

No matter what, it's an easy DIY repair. I have a custom foilboard and did much worse damage to the bottom when I dropped my phone on it while trying to measure the foil mast rake. A little of the kneed up style epoxy from a tube and I was on the water in a half hour.

Hang around with foilers enough and you see board damage way worse than this especially if someone has repurposed an old board that was never intended to suffer repeated nose strikes. Your skills in repair will improve as your foil skills do.

Mark _australia
WA, 19711 posts
4 Mar 2020 7:39AM
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OMG its a paint chip. All this talk of repair fillers and stuff

If that white stuff is hard, its completely insignificant. Leave it, or put a dob of paint on it if you must.

If its soft (polystyrene foam) then you have an issue. I am very very doubtful that's foam, seen some dodgy construction but never a lack of laminate like that on the corner. It is very common to have bog on corners and a little sanding to sharpen them up before it goes off to be painted. I'd almost bet my bottom dollar its just a q-cell sort of bog

owain
NSW, 183 posts
4 Mar 2020 10:18PM
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I took to it with a needle and it is not hard. That said I am going take it to PCC Boards this weekend and get it done properly. I definitely feel like an idiot for letting it happen.

Paducah
830 posts
4 Mar 2020 11:00PM
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owain said..
I took to it with a needle and it is not hard. That said I am going take it to PCC Boards this weekend and get it done properly. I definitely feel like an idiot for letting it happen.


You shouldn't. It's like a scratch on a new car. Now, you get to enjoy the board worry free. (After it's watertight, of course).

AlexF
270 posts
4 Mar 2020 11:31PM
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owain said..
I took to it with a needle and it is not hard. That said I am going take it to PCC Boards this weekend and get it done properly. I definitely feel like an idiot for letting it happen.


Is this a new board or used?
In the pics it looks like the corner was repainted in another red tone.

What does "not hard" mean? Could you stich a needle in for some centimeters without much resistance?
Then it's the EPS foam and you've got a problem.

But i guess it's more like the thickened filler that's used to shape such corners, that could be a little porous aka "not hard".
If so, i'd seal it with some superglue and put a drop of Solarez on it to reshape the corner.

Alex

MagicRide
385 posts
5 Mar 2020 1:23AM
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Since that is on the corner and it's such a small area, if it were my board, I'd sand the area, put a little JB Weld on, sand it down so the weld is flush with the unaffected area, paint it and it's as good as new!

Paducah
830 posts
5 Mar 2020 1:45AM
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Mark _australia said..
OMG its a paint chip. All this talk of repair fillers and stuff .... If its soft (polystyrene foam) then you have an issue.


The ol' "It's not an issue until it is."

Jet passenger: I can't hear the engines anymore.
Pilot: That means your noise cancelling headphones are working as intended.
JP: I'm not wearing headphones.
Pilot:

owain
NSW, 183 posts
14 Mar 2020 11:43AM
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Well the results are in, PCC did an amazing job.

The repaired corner is now better than the original. The paint match is also perfect (lots of dust in the picture from sitting in the repair shop).

Cost: $75







Stretchy
WA, 542 posts
14 Mar 2020 10:48AM
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What did the repair consist of?

Pacey
WA, 178 posts
14 Mar 2020 11:42AM
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Stretchy said..
What did the repair consist of?


Lots of red paint?

owain
NSW, 183 posts
15 Mar 2020 12:01AM
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In my infinite wisdom I forgot to ask :S

NotWal
QLD, 7309 posts
15 Mar 2020 9:30PM
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^ Well you're just going to have to break it again and this time pay attention.

owain
NSW, 183 posts
16 Mar 2020 7:20PM
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NotWal said..
^ Well you're just going to have to break it again and this time pay attention.


I'll keep you posted.

windsurftom
NSW, 265 posts
16 Mar 2020 8:36PM
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It's not meant to be in the water or you are doing it wrong



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