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franchetto
franchetto
WA
306 posts
WA, 306 posts
19 Oct 2009 10:28pm
Hi!
Can anybody suggest a good intermediate board as an alternative to the beginners'level Starboard Rio M 180 lts? I weigh 175 lbs. I am thinking around a 160 lt, definitely not below 150 lts. No sinkers! I'd ideally prefer a retractable centerboard for better up-wind performance, but I am open. I usually sail with light to moderate winds. I am not a speed buff, but I am looking at something offering a better planing performance and more manoeuverability than my Rio, without compromising too much on the stability of the board. Any comments on the AHD Fast Forward 160 lts and the Fanatic Viper 75 or 80 or even the Fanatic Shark? Would I feel a definite change in performance withany of these boards, as compared to the Rio, or would it be like changing 25 cts for a quarter?
I am also curious to know how somebody else rates the Rio from his/her own experience. Personally, I find it a bit heavy and unresponsive, even with an 8.5 sail, but it could also be my skill level ( I just started planing and foot-straps use by the end of this season)

Thank you

Franco
WindmanV
WindmanV
VIC
825 posts
VIC, 825 posts
20 Oct 2009 8:49am
Hi, Franco,

For what it's worth, I do not think that any of the Fanatic boards that you have nominated will give you a "lively" feeling, because they are too heavy and not much different to the weight of the Rio M.

The AHD is definitely the best option if you want a better "feeling" board, simply because of its lower weight. It does not have a centre board and it is more fragile than the other boards, but that is something you have to trade off as you progress in the sport (you overcome the fragility by mast bumper pads or rail guards).

All of the boards you have nominated would be at their limits in 20 knots of wind (unless you have super-flat water where you sail) and all of them will be tail-walking and difficult to keep on the water. Also, the boards will be working optimally in the sail ranges of 6.0 to 7.5.

To progress in the sport, you HAVE to get rid of centreboards and learn to steer using the fin, alone (but you can vary the length of the fin to get better results).

At your weight of 175 lbs/80kgs, there is no way even a board of 100 litres is going to sink if you are becalmed!

Contact me privately for more info, if you are interested.

Hope this helps.
Obelix
Obelix
WA
1173 posts
WA, 1173 posts
20 Oct 2009 1:53pm
I bought a Fanatic Shark 160L recently, and works well for me.
My weight is 102kg, and I can uphaul my 8m sail nicely without sinking.
It's floating more than I need, but I think it's just what I needed at this stage.

Being so large, with the 8m sail, it's hard to get planning under 14-15knts and is hard on my arms. Once planning, no problems. Goes well and fast.

That 8m sail can be hard on the arms and shoulders, but you do need a larger sail ona larger board.

You being 25kg lighter, I would go 130-145L if I were you.
Then you can use lighter sail etc.
jh2703
jh2703
NSW
1225 posts
NSW, 1225 posts
20 Oct 2009 9:07pm
Francone...I can vouch for the shark, I went from the Viper 80 to the 145L shark and had no problems with the volume change. I was about 100kg at the time and could uphaul with no issue, and with a big fin this board has no problems going up wind. By the end of the first season on the 145 shark I was fully plainning, foot steering and gybes and switched to a 120L board....Highly recommended.

(By the way I know where you can pick up one of last years models in good nick and for $1000)

cheers.
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