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greg1967
greg1967
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2 posts
10 Sep 2006 4:18am
I have built my own surfboards over the years, when I used to sail (wayyyyy back) we all built our own boards so now returning to the sport after years away it suprised me that the boards are so tech. I would love to build another board but to be honest I struggle with the whole concept of the different sort of boards and the apparent need to have them built like the space shuttle.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
10 Sep 2006 8:16am
the advantages are in the stiffness to weight ratios and the overall strength of the boards.

still nothing wrong with building an all glass board, especially with a wave board but for slalom and speed sailing the stiffer the board the better because it will be faster. one advantage with a pure glass board is that if you break it it can be fixed easily. boards that aren't as stiff feel better in chop and surf because they flex a little and absorb the tendency to bounce.

however
advances in rocker line have meant that really stiff boards now handle chop very well. where as with old school designs the stiff boards used to bounce around.

the only real difference as far as materials go is the introduction of plywood into the layup. having a stronger layup means less creased boards if you are pushing the limits with jumps. now the boards tend to just break but take a lot more punishment before they do. my race and slalom boards have been using carbon/kevlar for at least 15 years.

so carbon is used to get the stiffness and a plywood laminate, which is as cheap as chips, gives the impact strength. plywood is even better than glass for that.

vacuum bagging has meant that the weight can be kept to a minimum as well due to less resin being required.

So i think that the advantages are real in terms of performance and strength. wide boards especially demand the modern construction techniques to stop them falling apart.

i used to hate sailing the older type plastic boards like the mistrals etc for race/slalom because i found they would flex to much for my liking. i preferred custom stuff because it offered way more stiffness.

these days most major board manufacturers are using stiffer layups. so there is now no real difference. to the point where a pro will use a producton board to compete at the highest level.

i still prefer my customs though, because they are shaped to suit me and i can get them repaired by the builder. it is a shame that most of the aussie board builders are dissapearing. either can't compete with the big boys pricing structure or have become alergic to the resins.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
10 Sep 2006 7:04pm
As far as wave boards go I think the big advantage is strength to weight ratio more than stiffness. Means you can build a board that withstands flat landings better while being a couple of kilos lighter.
There's already significant rocker, a mm or so more during stress doesn't make a lot of difference.

Once you've ridden a light board in the waves, you don't want to go back.
Much looser, earlier planing and higher jumps!!!

So give it a go!!! You don't need a lot of exotics in a wave board, just a bit of extra stiffning around the tail area and mastbase.

Vacuum pumps can be made from old fridge compressors.
A vacuum bag from building grade plastic, and windscreen sealing tape

Epoxy is easier to work with, doesn't have the ability to go off as you pour it from the bucket!
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