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Created by nudie Two weeks ago, 21 Mar 2020
nudie
NSW, 117 posts
21 Mar 2020 8:50AM
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Hi Seabreeze followers,
This is what was given to us all at work on Monday due to this COVID-19 crisis!
Make sure if your looking for a Masks this is the one to get as it protects us form COVID-19. This is what has been told to our company by the "Government"..
I am a water front worker Stevedore so production must go on is what we all have been told.

Stay safe, keep safe, and lets suppprot our local shops through this tough times!!


Nudie

Orange Whip
QLD, 727 posts
21 Mar 2020 8:51AM
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How often have you been advised to change the mask?

Sparky
WA, 960 posts
21 Mar 2020 8:20AM
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But also, any mask or physical boundary (like a handkerchief) can be used to stop transference to and from your hands. Its amazing how often we rub our eyes, nose and mouth without noticing.

morts
WA, 144 posts
21 Mar 2020 8:56AM
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Cheapskates!

Suggest some proper facemasks, the 2 types we & our Stevedores/Wharfies use in addition to the disposables are also from 3M. The first one would be cheaper in the long tun than just continuously buying disposable masks.

www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/company-au/all-3m-products/~/3M-Full-Face-Respirator-68P71PA1-A-NA/?N=5002385+3289941629&preselect=8710670+8710839+3293786499&rt=rud

www.3m.com.au/3M/en_AU/company-au/all-3m-products/~/3M-Jupiter-PAPR-Helmet-JTM-406C/?N=5002385+8711017+3293696209&rt=rud

Subsonic
WA, 1933 posts
21 Mar 2020 9:30AM
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Good luck finding them.

With the panic buying, most places that sell them have them in lock down, business customers only. Theres good reasons for that too.

MagicRide
385 posts
21 Mar 2020 11:16AM
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I work in a hospital. We are now not allowing any visitors inside. Also, we have implemented a policy for every employee to have their temperature taken daily per shift. We are taking proper precautions at this time as we keep evaluating everything daily. Stay safe as we will get past this.

RAL INN
VIC, 2817 posts
21 Mar 2020 3:48PM
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Need a new welding helmet
just wear it all the time.




Foghorn
WA, 459 posts
21 Mar 2020 12:58PM
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The strong uv radiation from welding will kill the germs and keep everyone away from you.

JakeNN
117 posts
21 Mar 2020 1:42PM
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Let's hope you get an airtight seal around the mask! ... usually that is by far the weakest link ... let alone a fancy filter mask.

lotofwind
NSW, 5612 posts
21 Mar 2020 5:31PM
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Orange Whip said..
How often have you been advised to change the mask?



I was told by a health worker that you need to change it to a new one every half hour as the moisture builds up in them from your breath and become useless after that.

nudie
NSW, 117 posts
21 Mar 2020 7:44PM
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Things have changed here tonight at Work!!!!
Fresh P2 mask at start of shift, mine is diesel P95 in the pic as the machines we use in the ships are all diesel, isolation from workmates 4m?, sanitize everthing we touch Cranes Controllers, Crane Cabin, Font End Loaders, Forklifts, Excavators, EWP, Work ute, all power tools, cribroom toilet... every ****en thing that you can possibly think of clean it.

I am waiting on the MSDS to come to us so i know what we are using to clean things down with its a "Spary".

Only tell you all as we all should look out for each other

Cheers Nudie

Clean shaven boy's for a better seal is what we were told as well.

Dezza
NSW, 698 posts
21 Mar 2020 8:28PM
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Good luck Nudie

peterowensbabs
NSW, 254 posts
22 Mar 2020 1:37AM
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nudie said..
Things have changed here tonight at Work!!!!
Fresh P2 mask at start of shift, mine is diesel P95 in the pic as the machines we use in the ships are all diesel, isolation from workmates 4m?, sanitize everthing we touch Cranes Controllers, Crane Cabin, Font End Loaders, Forklifts, Excavators, EWP, Work ute, all power tools, cribroom toilet... every ****en thing that you can possibly think of clean it.

I am waiting on the MSDS to come to us so i know what we are using to clean things down with its a "Spary".

Only tell you all as we all should look out for each other

Cheers Nudie

Clean shaven boy's for a better seal is what we were told as well.


Dr Norman Swan on the ABC was talking about "Sanatisers" there are good ones and very bad ones. Alcohol at least 60% pure is good, Very strong pure soap or detergent (not degreaser), chlorine bleach is not so good (surprisingly) Hydrogen peroxide is good.....all very confusing and worrying as far too many people are doing either nothing (idiots) or the wrong thing (in excusable). Yes a good seal on face masks only comes with a clean shave, beard or stubble is a bad seal.

peterowensbabs
NSW, 254 posts
22 Mar 2020 1:38AM
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Good REAL information up to the moment here it will scare the beyjasus out of you. .www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/coronacast/

Tasdoc
VIC, 49 posts
22 Mar 2020 9:07AM
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If you don't work in healthcare, you only need to wear a mask if you have symptoms. To prevent it from spreading to others

peterowensbabs
NSW, 254 posts
22 Mar 2020 9:25AM
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Tasdoc said..
If you don't work in healthcare, you only need to wear a mask if you have symptoms. To prevent it from spreading to others


......Except that symptoms take 14 days to show up so you can be a carrier and spreader without knowing. A mask when in close contact by necessity (work or shopping for instance) cant hurt. The Italians French and Spanish are regretting that they did not advise better isolation and masks sooner. Test results and 'score cards' are a window on the numbers from two weeks ago. We are on a dangerous path because lots of people are not taking this nearly seriously enough. Wash your hands well with soap, avoid people and keep your distance and we might just flatten out the infection rate curve.

Tasdoc
VIC, 49 posts
22 Mar 2020 9:34AM
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peterowensbabs said..

Tasdoc said..
If you don't work in healthcare, you only need to wear a mask if you have symptoms. To prevent it from spreading to others



......Except that symptoms take 14 days to show up so you can be a carrier and spreader without knowing. A mask when in close contact by necessity (work or shopping for instance) cant hurt. The Italians French and Spanish are regretting that they did not advise better isolation and masks sooner. Test results and 'score cards' are a window on the numbers from two weeks ago. We are on a dangerous path because lots of people are not taking this nearly seriously enough. Wash your hands well with soap, avoid people and keep your distance and we might just flatten out the infection rate curve.


www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020/03/coronavirus-covid-19-information-on-the-use-of-surgical-masks-coronavirus-covid-19-information-on-the-use-of-surgical-masks.pdf

dandan321
2 posts
22 Mar 2020 7:19AM
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...all this panic for the flu??????

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1851 posts
22 Mar 2020 3:16PM
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Here is some info I transcribed from an audio blog that was sent to me from a trusted source. This advice came from doctors treating patients in a Spanish hospital

The measures seemed reasonable to me so I am passing it on, but take it for what it's worth to you. Keep in mind it came from a heavily affected area so the measure may seem more extreme.

Covid 19 advice
The Chinese now understand the behaviour of the Covid 19 virus thanks to autopsies carried out.
The virus is characterised by obstructing the respiratory system with a thick mucus that obstructs the airways and lungs.

To apply medications you have to open and unblock airways for effective treatment, this takes few days. Here are steps you can take to help keep you safe.

1. Drink lots of hot liquids - tea, coffee, soup, warm water. Etc. In addition take a sip of warm water every 20 mins because this keeps your mouth moist and washes any of the virus that enters your mouth into the stomach where the gastric juices will neutralise it before it can get to the lungs

2. Gargle with an anti-sceptic in warm water - like lemon, vinegar or salt, every day if possible

3. The virus attaches itself to hair and clothes. So take a bath or shower when coming in from street, don't sit around first. If you can't wash your clothes every day then hang them out in direct sunlight which also neutralises the virus.

4. Wash metallic surfaces very carefuly as the virus can remain active on them for up to 9 days. Take a note and be vigilant about touching door handles and rails. Keep those surfaces clean regularly at home / work

5. Don't Smoke

6. Wash hands every 20 mins using any soap that foams, do this for 20 seconds and thoroughly.

7. Eat fruits and vegetables, try to elevate your zinc levels not just your vitamin c levels

8. Animals do not spread the virus to people, its person to person transmission

9. Try to avoid getting the common flu, as it will weakens your system. Try to avoid eating and drinking cold things.

10. If you feel any discomfort in your throat or a sore throat coming on, attack it immediately with the above methods. The virus enters the system this way and remains 3 or 4 days before it passes into the lungs.
Good luck, take care and stay safe.

John340
QLD, 2030 posts
22 Mar 2020 2:55PM
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nudie said..
Things have changed here tonight at Work!!!!
Fresh P2 mask at start of shift, mine is diesel P95 in the pic as the machines we use in the ships are all diesel, isolation from workmates 4m?, sanitize everthing we touch Cranes Controllers, Crane Cabin, Font End Loaders, Forklifts, Excavators, EWP, Work ute, all power tools, cribroom toilet... every ****en thing that you can possibly think of clean it.

I am waiting on the MSDS to come to us so i know what we are using to clean things down with its a "Spary".

Only tell you all as we all should look out for each other

Cheers Nudie

Clean shaven boy's for a better seal is what we were told as well.


Thanks for keeping the ports open. Keep safe.

FormulaNova
NSW, 10484 posts
22 Mar 2020 4:16PM
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Waiting4wind said..
Here is some info I transcribed from an audio blog that was sent to me from a trusted source. This advice came from doctors treating patients in a Spanish hospital

The measures seemed reasonable to me so I am passing it on, but take it for what it's worth to you. Keep in mind it came from a heavily affected area so the measure may seem more extreme.

Covid 19 advice
The Chinese now understand the behaviour of the Covid 19 virus thanks to autopsies carried out.
The virus is characterised by obstructing the respiratory system with a thick mucus that obstructs the airways and lungs.

To apply medications you have to open and unblock airways for effective treatment, this takes few days. Here are steps you can take to help keep you safe.

1. Drink lots of hot liquids - tea, coffee, soup, warm water. Etc. In addition take a sip of warm water every 20 mins because this keeps your mouth moist and washes any of the virus that enters your mouth into the stomach where the gastric juices will neutralise it before it can get to the lungs

2. Gargle with an anti-sceptic in warm water - like lemon, vinegar or salt, every day if possible

3. The virus attaches itself to hair and clothes. So take a bath or shower when coming in from street, don't sit around first. If you can't wash your clothes every day then hang them out in direct sunlight which also neutralises the virus.

4. Wash metallic surfaces very carefuly as the virus can remain active on them for up to 9 days. Take a note and be vigilant about touching door handles and rails. Keep those surfaces clean regularly at home / work

5. Don't Smoke

6. Wash hands every 20 mins using any soap that foams, do this for 20 seconds and thoroughly.

7. Eat fruits and vegetables, try to elevate your zinc levels not just your vitamin c levels

8. Animals do not spread the virus to people, its person to person transmission

9. Try to avoid getting the common flu, as it will weakens your system. Try to avoid eating and drinking cold things.

10. If you feel any discomfort in your throat or a sore throat coming on, attack it immediately with the above methods. The virus enters the system this way and remains 3 or 4 days before it passes into the lungs.
Good luck, take care and stay safe.



Sorry w4w, but some of this sounds like BS theory and not scientific. I worry about the future of Spain.

Gargling, with lemon juice, vinegar or salt water..... right. Nope, I think this is rubbish.

'Try to avoid getting the common flu'? Really? What does that mean? No one tries to get the flu, and this makes no sense.

Wash your hands every 20mins? What, if you are sitting by yourself in an office, or if you are dealing with the public?

The advice of attacking it immediately with the above methods after feeling a sore throat makes no sense as you have probably already got it. How someone would work out this approach is beyond my comprehension.

Are you sure this is not what a Spanish doctor transcribed from something he read on facebook? I hate to be so negative, but this just looks like rubbish.

Orange Whip
QLD, 727 posts
22 Mar 2020 3:24PM
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I went the my local Coles supermarket this morning. What possible reason would there be for the check out operators not to be wearing masks?????

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1851 posts
22 Mar 2020 4:36PM
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Orange Whip said..
I went the my local Coles supermarket this morning. What possible reason would there be for the check out operators not to be wearing masks?????



I agree.

The check out operators are now not allowed to touch your bags, you need to bag the groceries yourself. I suggested to one that they should be wearing gloves as well. Half the people that buy fruit and veg will touch it and squeeze it to make their selection. That's probably about a thousand hands in a busy supermarket.

Cases are escalating. NSW to go into lockdown for non essential services starting tomorrow.

John340
QLD, 2030 posts
22 Mar 2020 3:37PM
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dandan321 said..
...all this panic for the flu??????



Tell that to the 3000+ dead Italians and their families

sboardcrazy
NSW, 6919 posts
22 Mar 2020 5:39PM
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How do you self isolate when you still have to go to the supermarket and buy food?

JakeNN
117 posts
22 Mar 2020 3:02PM
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sboardcrazy said..
How do you self isolate when you still have to go to the supermarket and buy food?



a) very easily, and
b) you have no choice but to find an easy solution

it is actually very serious in case you hadn't noticed yet ...

sboardcrazy
NSW, 6919 posts
22 Mar 2020 6:28PM
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I'm not complaining and realise how serious it is.I just can't see how people can avoid all situations where they may get it.

ClausF
23 posts
22 Mar 2020 5:17PM
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In Europe the different governments are trying to limit the speed of Corona spread in order to avoid a critical overload of the hospitals.
There are some general recommendations regarding Corona, and they are similar for all European countries.
This is from Italy:




Take care and stay safe.

JakeNN
117 posts
22 Mar 2020 5:44PM
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Try starting at 1:30 ....

NotWal
QLD, 7309 posts
22 Mar 2020 11:12PM
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dandan321 said..
...all this panic for the flu??????


Covid is roughly 13 times more deadly than typical influenza.

FormulaNova
NSW, 10484 posts
23 Mar 2020 12:49AM
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sboardcrazy said..
I'm not complaining and realise how serious it is.I just can't see how people can avoid all situations where they may get it.


Exactly. I think your point is a very important one and lost on some people.

If you 'ask' people to self isolate, most people will find a justification to visit places, such as for food, and you can't blame them.

The only way they can really do it is to say 'stay in your home, we will deliver things to you, and anything you need, you must call us only'. Without this insitence that food gets delivered, and important things are taken care of, you can expect people to violate this isolation. What do you they expect?

If you find someone that has no food, or urgently needs something, and there is no one in authority that is contactable, what do they think is going to happen?



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