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sboardcrazy
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11 Mar 2010 6:03pm
Assuming I cant ressurrect the old one I need one at least 1.49 - 1.86 ..or a bit wider range to cover that..in an ideal world I have a 3.3m Id like to cover ( I currently have a home made old rope tie attachment boom which is a pain in the butt![}:)]for that)so 1.32 - 1.9 ish..cheap but durable..
hardpole
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sboardcrazy
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11 Mar 2010 7:38pm
Not that I care but why the red thumb..? The subject doesnt really lend itself to one..?
The hydronamix enduro 140 sounds in the ballpark..anyone know if they are any good? I do bump & jump on a lake that can get quite choppy & windy.I only weigh 65kgs.Maybe will go out in the surf one day but only sightseeing no real surfing..
Bertie
Bertie
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11 Mar 2010 8:15pm
at 65kg any modern ali boom will suit you just fine.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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11 Mar 2010 5:41pm
The best ally booms at a reasonable price are the Chinook or Hydrodynamix. About $370 ish??

Stepping up an extra $200 gets you a better ally boom but at your (light) weight and not in heavy wave use it is not required. I am 95kg and got 3yrs of serious wave use out of a Chinook. In that time I broke 4 masts and trashed god-knows how many sails and the boom was still fine - only bought a new one cos it was shiny and I had a tax return burning a hole in my pocket

Stepping down $100 could get you something almost as good, but it could also be woeful and cause no end of dramas. Also, a big name doesn't necessarily mean a lot when you look at all the problems with the NP X3's in the last few years.

Chinook or Hydro all the way.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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11 Mar 2010 8:53pm
What sort of things should i be aware of when buying..e.g - pitfalls / advantages..bearing in mind my low budget..I still dont want to buy a dud..
I just looked up chinook..what sort of angle would these suit?
http://www.chinooksailing.com/products/product_info.php?products_id=272
Failing the end working the hydro look like they are the size i need + budget.Any major disadvantages with them? My knowledge of booms is still in the 90's.
sick_em_rex
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11 Mar 2010 8:59pm
I've been using a Loft boom for a good 4 years now and have never had a single issue with it. Price was awesome too when I bought it, $135.00. I think they may now be a bit more expensive by $20.00 or so.
sboardcrazy
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11 Mar 2010 9:04pm
sick_em_rex said...

I've been using a Loft boom for a good 4 years now and have never had a single issue with it. Price was awesome too when I bought it, $135.00. I think they may now be a bit more expensive by $20.00 or so.

This was easier than i thought. Looks like the loft wins.I cant figure out how the outhaul system works though..Do the loops have a cleat out on the boom end..?

Mike105
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11 Mar 2010 6:11pm
The only purchase in Windsurfing I have regretted is going for the bargain boom. I'm 68kg and had finally got light weight sails and masts and really started progressing fast when my trusty Hawaiian proline wore out after 8 years. Got a good deal on a entry level Gaastra boom and regretted it. Never noticed in the shop but out on the water it was much stiffer but noticeably heavier in transitions. Stiffness is great for keeping you on the plain through gusts and lulls.

I was then fortunate enough to win a spot prize boom - Windsurfing Hawaii Makai. Also a cheapy, nice light weight but pretty floppy particularly on max 195 extension. Nothing like the old pro line.

Conclusion: It's Worth spending a little more.

Now with an extra boom I traded the gaastra for a Naish CT $NZ350. Fits RDM mast without shim . Taper to 28mm tubes is nice for smaller hands, weight and stiffness are great. Tried the Global wave (carbon tail version) and it wasn't worth the difference.

Hope that helps.
FlickySpinny
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11 Mar 2010 6:40pm
Prolimit Pro at $259 gets my vote. On my second one (only replaced the first because I figured that for that little money and three very hard seasons on the water t owed me nothing).

140-200 range I think.
oldee
oldee
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11 Mar 2010 10:34pm
NP X6 works well.
X3 now has a strange sandpaper like finish that might be hard on the hands.
sick_em_rex
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11 Mar 2010 10:35pm
sboardcrazy said...

sick_em_rex said...

I've been using a Loft boom for a good 4 years now and have never had a single issue with it. Price was awesome too when I bought it, $135.00. I think they may now be a bit more expensive by $20.00 or so.

This was easier than i thought. Looks like the loft wins.I cant figure out how the outhaul system works though..Do the loops have a cleat out on the boom end..?




Yep
DunkO
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11 Mar 2010 11:04pm
kato said...

Have a look at the Ka booms too Sue and they can post http://www.kasail.com/windsurfing/gear/booms.html about the same price as a loft but an Australian company


how are they the same price, on the web site they KA state they are 250+ where the loft are about $150.

i have had one of these dirt cheap lofts for a year now and no problems, more than i can say for a certain big name brand boom that cost 300+. bought several new and all fell apart! price unfortunatly not always a guide.
jimbob SA
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11 Mar 2010 11:18pm
I have a couple of store branded booms from surf sail australia in perth, use them on my race sails and in the surf, no problems about 170 bucks for the bigger sizes and they have the swivel head to take the loading of the mast. check them on there site, great crew to deal with.
Bondalucci
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12 Mar 2010 12:59am
Mike105 said...


Now with an extra boom I traded the gaastra for a Naish CT $NZ350. Fits RDM mast without shim . Taper to 28mm tubes is nice for smaller hands, weight and stiffness are great. Tried the Global wave (carbon tail version) and it wasn't worth the difference.

Hope that helps.



x2 for the Naish CT, which is a T8 alum.

Just got mine for $320 and it covers my sails from 4.5-7.5.

I've also got a Pryde carbon tail piece that can go into it, to make it a hybrid, but it makes it heavier than the alum tail and doesn't seem any stiffer.

sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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12 Mar 2010 8:57am
Mike105 said...

The only purchase in Windsurfing I have regretted is going for the bargain boom. I'm 68kg and had finally got light weight sails and masts and really started progressing fast when my trusty Hawaiian proline wore out after 8 years. Got a good deal on a entry level Gaastra boom and regretted it. Never noticed in the shop but out on the water it was much stiffer but noticeably heavier in transitions. Stiffness is great for keeping you on the plain through gusts and lulls.

I was then fortunate enough to win a spot prize boom - Windsurfing Hawaii Makai. Also a cheapy, nice light weight but pretty floppy particularly on max 195 extension. Nothing like the old pro line.

Conclusion: It's Worth spending a little more.

Now with an extra boom I traded the gaastra for a Naish CT $NZ350. Fits RDM mast without shim . Taper to 28mm tubes is nice for smaller hands, weight and stiffness are great. Tried the Global wave (carbon tail version) and it wasn't worth the difference.

Hope that helps.


Thanks for the feedback.My budget is really limited..b/c will be full with a cheapy so I dont really have the option of spending more.Will keep this info for if $ changes.
I think i will notice a massive difference with a modern boom anyway as the one that died was 40mm diameter .Id noticed the mast connection was wobbly lately (should have gelled to have a a better look..)+ the extension end was out so far it had heaps of play in it too.I imagine it is a lot heavier than modern ones too.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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12 Mar 2010 12:46pm
Whats the most reliable type of mast clamp? Are they interchangable? If you buy one brand boom & have trouble can you buy a different brand mast clamp & fit it to the 1st brand?
Ellobuddha
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12 Mar 2010 1:47pm
Ive got two Loft masts, one wave and one slalom. Im 95-100kgs and had some massive get offs and never even looked like hurting them. Broken mast in the surf and booms still strong as ever - if your looking for a great mast for great price then get one of them.

Ring the boys at Windsurfing accessories, they're great to deal with.
FlickySpinny
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12 Mar 2010 10:47am
I don't think they're supposedly interchangeable as they're such an integral part of the boom these days.

Having said that, SHQ just got a new front end for a North boom that's a few years old for me - I don't actually think it's a North front end, but it does work so that's all I care about.
WaynoB
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12 Mar 2010 1:52pm
Hi SBC,

Recently bought a Loft Slalom boom 170-230 through Windsurfing Sales after breaking a 2 year old Gun Alloy. It had a hard life. Couldn't afford the more expensive Carbons.

Figure for about $180 delivered I can replace it every 2 years and still be in front in the long run. It does the job well enough. Carbons are not indestruictable.

One day I may get a carbon....one day.
sboardcrazy
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12 Mar 2010 3:02pm
Ellobuddha said...

Ive got two Loft masts, one wave and one slalom. Im 95-100kgs and had some massive get offs and never even looked like hurting them. Broken mast in the surf and booms still strong as ever - if your looking for a great mast for great price then get one of them.

Ring the boys at Windsurfing accessories, they're great to deal with.


Thanks.Ill keep that in mind but Im after a boom.I was enquiring about the boom end that clamps onto the mast.
Ellobuddha
Ellobuddha
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12 Mar 2010 6:03pm
SORRY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LOFT BOOMS NOT MASTS.

sboardcrazy said...

Ellobuddha said...

Ive got two Loft masts, one wave and one slalom. Im 95-100kgs and had some massive get offs and never even looked like hurting them. Broken mast in the surf and booms still strong as ever - if your looking for a great mast for great price then get one of them.

Ring the boys at Windsurfing accessories, they're great to deal with.


Thanks.Ill keep that in mind but Im after a boom.I was enquiring about the boom end that clamps onto the mast.


sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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12 Mar 2010 7:31pm
Rob11 said...

sboardcrazy said...
Thanks.Ill keep that in mind but Im after a boom.I was enquiring about the boom end that clamps onto the mast.


I believe this is the best you can get these days:
http://www.mauisails.com/boom.php?id=46

Thanks Ive saved it to favourites.Ive ordered a slalom Loft boom from windsurfing sales & he threw in a free loft waveboom ( 2nd hand boom grip damaged ) for free so Im stoked.So $180 for 2 booms including freight!Thanks!

kato
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12 Mar 2010 9:58pm
Well done Sue, that cam sail should feel much better. Now for the mast
Krisiz1
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12 Mar 2010 10:04pm
sboardcrazy said...

sick_em_rex said...

I've been using a Loft boom for a good 4 years now and have never had a single issue with it. Price was awesome too when I bought it, $135.00. I think they may now be a bit more expensive by $20.00 or so.

This was easier than i thought. Looks like the loft wins.I cant figure out how the outhaul system works though..Do the loops have a cleat out on the boom end..?




I bought two ok them for about that price exactly 3 years ago. I only recently bought an Aeron to replace the longer one (180- 240) because I liked the shape of the Aeron better. You are welcome to it if you can get it from Australind WA to you.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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13 Mar 2010 8:49am
Krisiz1 said...

sboardcrazy said...

sick_em_rex said...

I've been using a Loft boom for a good 4 years now and have never had a single issue with it. Price was awesome too when I bought it, $135.00. I think they may now be a bit more expensive by $20.00 or so.

This was easier than i thought. Looks like the loft wins.I cant figure out how the outhaul system works though..Do the loops have a cleat out on the boom end..?




I bought two ok them for about that price exactly 3 years ago. I only recently bought an Aeron to replace the longer one (180- 240) because I liked the shape of the Aeron better. You are welcome to it if you can get it from Australind WA to you.

Thanks for the offer! I would have taken you up on it but Ill now have 2 booms to cover from my 3.3m - 6.6m sails..all I need now is a bigger car!

Krisiz1
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15 Mar 2010 10:07pm
sboardcrazy said...

Krisiz1 said...

sboardcrazy said...

sick_em_rex said...

I've been using a Loft boom for a good 4 years now and have never had a single issue with it. Price was awesome too when I bought it, $135.00. I think they may now be a bit more expensive by $20.00 or so.

This was easier than i thought. Looks like the loft wins.I cant figure out how the outhaul system works though..Do the loops have a cleat out on the boom end..?




I bought two ok them for about that price exactly 3 years ago. I only recently bought an Aeron to replace the longer one (180- 240) because I liked the shape of the Aeron better. You are welcome to it if you can get it from Australind WA to you.

Thanks for the offer! I would have taken you up on it but Ill now have 2 booms to cover from my 3.3m - 6.6m sails..all I need now is a bigger car!




PERFECT! I have one for sale! 2004 Magna. $8500.
sboardcrazy
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16 Mar 2010 8:51am
Krisiz1 said...

sboardcrazy said...

Krisiz1 said...

sboardcrazy said...

sick_em_rex said...

I've been using a Loft boom for a good 4 years now and have never had a single issue with it. Price was awesome too when I bought it, $135.00. I think they may now be a bit more expensive by $20.00 or so.

This was easier than i thought. Looks like the loft wins.I cant figure out how the outhaul system works though..Do the loops have a cleat out on the boom end..?




I bought two ok them for about that price exactly 3 years ago. I only recently bought an Aeron to replace the longer one (180- 240) because I liked the shape of the Aeron better. You are welcome to it if you can get it from Australind WA to you.

Thanks for the offer! I would have taken you up on it but Ill now have 2 booms to cover from my 3.3m - 6.6m sails..all I need now is a bigger car!




PERFECT! I have one for sale! 2004 Magna. $8500.

Sorry my partner is thinking maybe a van..wants to be able to sleep in it carry bikes inside etc..however think a tractor will be first buy ...car later

nosinkanow
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17 Mar 2010 3:49am
wbailey
Recently bought a Loft Slalom boom 170-230 through Windsurfing Sales after breaking a 2 year old Gun Alloy. It had a hard life.


I'm in the same pozzie as Sue, my boom is the same vintage Chinook...actually older coz its got the holes that you have to feed the loops through after they go around the mast and not just wrap around...hard to explain. And mine too are showing multiple hairline cracks on the outside north and south of the rivets and the end of the tubes are bulging the plastic, its going to bust very soon.

I had a look at the Gun booms, same distributor as Loft booms but cheaper again! Looks pretty snazzy too but does the price reflect the quality? These are very affordable booms in comparison to what's out there. What's the general concensus with Gun booms....and masts too while we're at it, attractive prices.

sboardcrazy said...Ive ordered a slalom Loft boom from windsurfing sales & he threw in a free loft waveboom ( 2nd hand boom grip damaged ) for free so Im stoked. So $180 for 2 booms including freight!Thanks!


Sue, you lucky devil. G'orn I need some luck rubbed onto me. You've done well, you should be proud as punch....frikengrumblemumble....no I'm really happy for you.

Tell us how the booms feel in comparison. I can't wait to get a fully clamping type, it looks so easy and rigid.
sboardcrazy
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17 Mar 2010 7:34am
nosinkanow said...

wbailey
Recently bought a Loft Slalom boom 170-230 through Windsurfing Sales after breaking a 2 year old Gun Alloy. It had a hard life.


I'm in the same pozzie as Sue, my boom is the same vintage Chinook...actually older coz its got the holes that you have to feed the loops through after they go around the mast and not just wrap around...hard to explain. And mine too are showing multiple hairline cracks on the outside north and south of the rivets and the end of the tubes are bulging the plastic, its going to bust very soon.

I had a look at the Gun booms, same distributor as Loft booms but cheaper again! Looks pretty snazzy too but does the price reflect the quality? These are very affordable booms in comparison to what's out there. What's the general concensus with Gun booms....and masts too while we're at it, attractive prices.

sboardcrazy said...Ive ordered a slalom Loft boom from windsurfing sales & he threw in a free loft waveboom ( 2nd hand boom grip damaged ) for free so Im stoked. So $180 for 2 booms including freight!Thanks!


Sue, you lucky devil. G'orn I need some luck rubbed onto me. You've done well, you should be proud as punch....frikengrumblemumble....no I'm really happy for you.

Tell us how the booms feel in comparison. I can't wait to get a fully clamping type, it looks so easy and rigid.

You sound like me alright..I have a custom made boom of the feed the loop through era for my 3.3m so Im so glad to be finally getting a decent boom for that size..It used to take me ages to rig up & then after the first run the @##$ thing would loosen anyway! Ill hopefully pick up the booms Thurs & get a sail with the 6.6m this weekend..? in an ideal world.

WaynoB
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17 Mar 2010 4:12pm
Well done Sue on a great deal from the Loft dealer. You won't be disappointed. You really got two for the price of one.
They are about the same weight as a carbon but not as stiff which should not be a problem unless you are a demon speed or slalom sailor. Great for recreational use.
Also they are 1/4 the price of a carbon.
One every two years or so sounds like the way to go; don't wait for it to break or you could be in for a long swim (as I had).....or worse. Usually a kind boatie does the right thing.
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