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Chopping off nose

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Created by seanhogan Two weeks ago, 30 Jun 2018
seanhogan
2829 posts
30 Jun 2018 2:20PM
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Hi carbon gurus !

I just landed myself a sweet lightwind board I intend to use for foiling.
It's an AHD formula carbon construction. Not so uggly , but way too long to fit in my Hyundai H1.

I tried it yesterday, love it ! So now considering shortening it to fit the car + make it more jibe friendly (a much better foiler than me tried it and told me so )
It's already been fixed once underneath and covered with a large monopad (great for foiling)

Could do with a good 20 cm off. here are the pics.

How would you do it ? (please don't go too technical in terms or I'll have to use google translate )
I'm keen to have go, no vacuum pump or other magic tools at home !
BTW I paid 50$ for it


Cheers
sean






choco
SA, 3295 posts
30 Jun 2018 3:58PM
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seanhogan
2829 posts
30 Jun 2018 3:19PM
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awesome ! thanks choco !!!

forceten
309 posts
30 Jun 2018 11:35PM
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More than 1 way to bake a cake. The nose is not tied into the board, its epoxyied to the end.I dont use Pour foam, to fill cavities, IF I did it wouldn't come in a can, I use 2 stage 8lbs version .I use at least 1 layer of carbon. I feel its possib le to snap the new nose right off. The change in nose rocker , IMO is not enough, once planing its ok,probably.

The builders concept and execution is good.

forceten
309 posts
30 Jun 2018 11:35PM
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TGale
TAS, 244 posts
1 Jul 2018 9:55AM
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forceten said..
More than 1 way to bake a cake. The nose is not tied into the board, its epoxyied to the end.I dont use Pour foam, to fill cavities, IF I did it wouldn't come in a can, I use 2 stage 8lbs version .I use at least 1 layer of carbon. I feel its possib le to snap the new nose right off. The change in nose rocker , IMO is not enough, once planing its ok,probably.

The builders concept and execution is good.


Does Google translate do double Dutch?? ??

seanhogan
2829 posts
1 Jul 2018 2:11PM
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Mark_oz ??? still in the shed ? your opinion ?

Mark _australia
WA, 17799 posts
1 Jul 2018 4:15PM
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Haha yeah

I like his videos as he does a lot of stuff different but acceptable.
This is probably the best easy way to increase the nose rocker IMHO. ie: nice balance of best and easy.

Only substitution I'd make is use a glue- the Tarzan's Grip High Strength Glue ( that looks like honey and has virtually no smell, NOT the extreme glue or whatever they call it) sets really hard and a bit better adhesion than spray foam. It still foams enough to fill holes.

Forget carbon, its too brittle on a nose, you'd be better with glass.

For only 200mm cutoff and depending on the board, you'd probably get away with not changing the nose rocker anyway.

jirvin4505
QLD, 911 posts
1 Jul 2018 9:37PM
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Always loved the get it done style in this thread.......

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/The-old-cut-the-nose-off-trick

forceten
309 posts
1 Jul 2018 10:53PM
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Mark, I found this interesting.
www.christinedemerchant.com/carbon-kevlar-glass-comparison.html

I hate using Kevlar . On the nose , top side , not so much the pointy leading edge, I use carbon.

Your comment on nose rocker, 20cm off , a direct comparison, board 1, not much modification , when just sailing the nose liked to pearl. Board 2 , I made increased rocker, much better . Lots of variables here.

forceten
309 posts
3 Jul 2018 12:10AM
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Naish Titan 109L, nose cut, tail reshaped, quad boxes ,removed power-box relocated footstraps inserts, mast track, all moved forward. Size a educated guesstimate 96Liters.
Board s name is Red October. Cause the hydro semi tunnels between the fins. Fin boxes are SURF ProBox front, Flikka Slotbox rear.

It has standard rails, except the new nose and tail. So they are Freeride. Everyone who has ridden this comes back amazed, mostly me as I'm used to mostly dismal results.

The tunnels are a touch THAT I tried, I dont really feel any significant improvement, but no adverse trait either.
It sails absolutes wonderful, comparison boards are a Flikka FSW 99L, and a Witchcraft Chakra 88L.

Board cost $50 , materials probably $350 +

forceten
309 posts
3 Jul 2018 5:27AM
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forceten
309 posts
3 Jul 2018 5:30AM
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forceten
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3 Jul 2018 5:32AM
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Dar
117 posts
3 Jul 2018 2:41PM
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Nice job Forceten!

jusavina
QLD, 1101 posts
3 Jul 2018 5:26PM
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Step one:


Seanhogan, let me know if step one is not too complicated for you then I'll progress to step 2.

forceten
309 posts
3 Jul 2018 10:04PM
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Dar said..
Nice job Forceten!


Thanks, this is so far my crowning glory.

forceten
309 posts
3 Jul 2018 10:04PM
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Dar said..
Nice job Forceten!


Thanks, this is so far my crowning glory.

seanhogan
2829 posts
Tuesday , 10 Jul 2018 3:09PM
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just discovered it's an "air inside"..... (not by cutting it open, learnt it from the "experts" at the beach : originally belonged to AA, not that this changes anything LOL)

Soooo...... same approach or different technique for a hollow board ?

Dar
117 posts
Tuesday , 10 Jul 2018 5:15PM
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You would still need something to lay the glass/carbon up on.... so I think you will still need to use the above methods.



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