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Created by Relic Saturday, 11 Aug 2018
Relic
TAS, 687 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 6:47AM
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Has anyone had any relief from lower back pressure changing from waist to seat harness?
I have sensitivity from L 1 to L5. The Mystic Chamelion (waist harness) I've been using was good until I developed problems lower in the spine; not windsurfing related.
I sail wave gear.

clarence
TAS, 678 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 8:36AM
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I had quite a lot of back pain when I sailed with a waist harness (pretty old school one though). I switched to a dakine seat harness.

Back pain while sailing is a thing of the past. This may be due to other factors also, but I'm reluctant to switch back to a waist harness.

I mainly sailed longboards back then. Now it is a mix of wave and raceboard, but I don't want to have 2x harnesses and switch harness lines, so I still use the seat harness for everything.

Looks a bit gay with wave gear (and you need longer lines), but I'm very happy with it.

Clarence

Relic
TAS, 687 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 9:18AM
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clarence said..
I had quite a lot of back pain when I sailed with a waist harness (pretty old school one though). I switched to a dakine seat harness.

Back pain while sailing is a thing of the past. This may be due to other factors also, but I'm reluctant to switch back to a waist harness.

I mainly sailed longboards back then. Now it is a mix of wave and raceboard, but I don't want to have 2x harnesses and switch harness lines, so I still use the seat harness for everything.

Looks a bit gay with wave gear (and you need longer lines), but I'm very happy with it.

Clarence


Can you post a pic of the Dakine pls. Does it have a protruding pad inside at the back? I think that me part of my problem.

Mastbender
1723 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 7:37AM
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Me, not just the lower back but also the knees, so I switched and both went away.
I went to the Flying Objects 'Transit' harness because it has a high hook, I also sail in the waves, so that's what I need.
It's been redesigned a bit, not sure if the hook is in the same place but pretty sure it is, and it's adjustable.
A pic like mine, I think it's a 2016, that hook shown is lower that where I have mine.



clarence
TAS, 678 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 10:42AM
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Relic said..


clarence said..
I had quite a lot of back pain when I sailed with a waist harness (pretty old school one though). I switched to a dakine seat harness.

Back pain while sailing is a thing of the past. This may be due to other factors also, but I'm reluctant to switch back to a waist harness.

I mainly sailed longboards back then. Now it is a mix of wave and raceboard, but I don't want to have 2x harnesses and switch harness lines, so I still use the seat harness for everything.

Looks a bit gay with wave gear (and you need longer lines), but I'm very happy with it.

Clarence




Can you post a pic of the Dakine pls. Does it have a protruding pad inside at the back? I think that me part of my problem.



Dakine doesn't have a bump in the back. Pretty minimalist for a seat harness (no big fat layers of foam on it). You can borrow it some time if you want. Will post pic later.

Clarence

Mark _australia
WA, 17932 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 8:53AM
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I agree with the transit as it feels like a waist harness but you can really pull it down low to almost function like a seat if you wish. Its an easier transition from what you are used to - a seat may be real hard on wave gear

John340
QLD, 1807 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 2:41PM
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I changed to a seat harness decades ago because of lower back pain. I've never had a problem since. I dislike the hybrid harnesses, i.e waist with nappy seat. I prefer a minimalist hip only harness with low hook.

petermac33
WA, 4453 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 1:33PM
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Ive being using the transit harness now for must be 10 plus years.

In to my second one from 3 years ago.

Offers amazing back support compared to a normal seat harness.

I have added a narrow hook and cut away the two lower fasteners that hold the hook - so my hook is held by the two high fasteners. As a result my hook position is very high and it slides heaps for better pointing.

Stretchy
WA, 356 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 1:47PM
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John340 said..
I changed to a seat harness decades ago because of lower back pain. I've never had a problem since. I dislike the hybrid harnesses, i.e waist with nappy seat. I prefer a minimalist hip only harness with low hook.


+1

olskool
QLD, 758 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 4:44PM
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I have L3-L5 issues. Use a Mystic Battle belt, seat harness. Think its about 5yo. Has raised lumbar support. Find it very comfy. Feels good to have pressure/support along my spine.

Agrid
WA, 285 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 3:42PM
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I've had a bad back for all my windsurfing life. I've only used seat harnesses and currently have one the same as mastbender.

I'm not sure there is enough hook in the hook. It slipped out a few times so I swapped back to the spreader bar off my 1980's NP harness.

pepe47
WA, 1112 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 4:26PM
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Never been a big fan of flying objects, just seems like a waist harness with an arse end sewn on it.

pommypair
27 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 4:39PM
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I have sailed since the 80s with arthritis in the same area as you and have survived it all with care and a good seat harness. Lately it has been one of the many versions of a kite Dakine, but they definitely change. I cannot speak for a transit harness but the seat harness transfers the stress area better than a waist harness you really are sitting on the power. I have to say people who say a waist harness is just as good don't know what a serious back problem really is, when you have been in and out of hospital and rehab for it you understand the difference. Remember a (high) seat harness hook makes no difference to wave riding you are out of it, it may look uncool but at my age who cares....

boardsurfr
585 posts
Saturday , 11 Aug 2018 10:52PM
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Relic said..
Has anyone had any relief from lower back pressure changing from waist to seat harness?


Yes, had to do this a few years back. I have a few different seat harnesses that differ in how they distribute the load; some feel more like waist harnesses, but without any sliding up. Strap adjustment can also make quite a difference in the pressure distribution. One of my harnesses feels quite terrible unless straps are really tight, others are less sensitive, but still show different pressure distribution depending on how tight the leg straps are.

Brienno
6 posts
Tuesday , 13 Aug 2018 11:10PM
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I switched to a seat harness after 3 years of windsurfing (I'm 46 now), and I found only benefits. First of all the bloody thing doesn't slip up every run, second it allows me to transfer the energy from the sail to the board with no effort, third my catapults have gone to zero, fourth my back doesn't hurt anymore.
My girlfriend thinks I look funny, but who cares?
Btw, I have a Dakine Reflex, a super minimalist version and super easy to use, especially with big sails.




Mastbender
1723 posts
Yesterday , 14 Aug 2018 1:16AM
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Agrid said..
I've had a bad back for all my windsurfing life. I've only used seat harnesses and currently have one the same as mastbender.

I'm not sure there is enough hook in the hook. It slipped out a few times so I swapped back to the spreader bar off my 1980's NP harness.



Your main hook strap/clamp was too loose.



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