How do you choose the right board volume?

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Salamander
Salamander
WA
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WA, 5 posts
25 Jan 2006 12:15pm
Sorry if this is a little long but I'm guessing you can't recommend a board unless you know what it needs to be used for!

I'm looking to buy a second hand modern board for the first time. I haven't learnt how to gybe yet but I like to think it's because of my ancient fibreglass board that no-one can believe I'm still fighting with. I've had a run on a friend's Starboard Evo 92 and S-Type 115 and they were so much easier to sail that I felt like I could be gybing with just a day's practice.

I sail at St. Kilda on Port Phillip Bay, so we're talking about a little bit of chop and 15-25 knots mostly, but also 12-15 knots and flatter water as the wind dies down in the evenings. I'm light at a little under 70kg, and I want to go blasting in and out and get a little air off the chop but nothing too fancy at this stage. I've currently got an old cambered 6.3 and a more modern 4.5 - the former has no give and is hard work when it gets heavy and the latter is too small. I probably need to pick up a modern 5.4 as well.

A couple of years ago I did a lot of reading and thought I wanted something like a JP 84 or thereabouts. Now that I'm looking into it again it seems like everyone's using boards with much more volume. The Starboard boards I had a quick run on were amazingly easy to sail but felt a bit twitchy to me after my smaller volume, much longer old board.

If someone could make some suggestions for ideal board sizes and types I'd really appreciate it. I can't wait to get out there and start doing laps all evening rather than spending the whole time trying to waterstart my old kit.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12887 posts
WA, 12887 posts
25 Jan 2006 7:08pm
between 90 and 100
drjukka
drjukka
QLD
258 posts
QLD, 258 posts
25 Jan 2006 10:50pm
Salamander,

My boards range from Bodyweight - 10 litres to Bodyweight +20 litres.

This sees me sailing in everything from 12-13 knots up to 38 knots.

I used to sail out of St Kilda and would think for your weight that around 90 litres would be plenty to get you going in the lighter ranges, you may need a really small board when it honks in a big SW change.

Generally, you will have a lot of rolling swell that you can use to help get you planing at St Kilda, by bearing dowm wind a bit.

With regard to sails - that old 6.3 is probably a good sail - especially for the lighter winds. I have just invested in a Naish Redline 7.0 (3 cams) and am very impressed - it handles like a sail 0.5 m2 smaller than it is, nice to gybe in comparison to some older cambered sails.

5.5 is a good size for Port Phillip

- J
ju_724
ju_724
231 posts
231 posts
25 Jan 2006 9:29pm
The Starboard Carve is perfect for port phillip bay, loads of people have used them there, so you shouldn't have a problem picking one up 2nd hand.

The 99 mightstart to feel a bit big for you on the strong sea breazes so you might want to get a carve 90, or just get an old spare second wave board for those rare 25knts+ windy days.

I'm 85kg's and used a 100ltr board 90% of the time in Melb.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23701 posts
WA, 23701 posts
26 Jan 2006 12:17am
I'll agree with the Carve, 80L ish should be good for you from 12 - 25. Make sure you get the standard fin and also one size up for the larger sails.... standard, factory supplied modern fins are too small esp on wave gear.

By the way, you will find the EVO twitchy, they are very loose and want to turn all the time. Many traditional wave sailors haven't liked them for that fact, If you do bump n jump sailing they are not really the go, they want to waveride (always be turning).

Salamander
Salamander
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
26 Jan 2006 12:28pm
quote:
Originally posted by drjukka

My boards range from Bodyweight - 10 litres to Bodyweight +20 litres.



So 60-90 litres then. Does that mean that the 115 I tried is really meant for heavier sailors? It felt great for the short blast I took it on. I suppose I haven't done enough sailing to know what it is about a bigger board that's undesirable in heavier conditions.

quote:
Generally, you will have a lot of rolling swell that you can use to help get you planing at St Kilda, by bearing dowm wind a bit.

With regard to sails - that old 6.3 is probably a good sail - especially for the lighter winds. I have just invested in a Naish Redline 7.0 (3 cams) and am very impressed - it handles like a sail 0.5 m2 smaller than it is, nice to gybe in comparison to some older cambered sails.

5.5 is a good size for Port Phillip


Yep I've never really had much of a problem getting up and planing. The 6.3 is a great sail to blast with but is a lot harder to water start and makes for quite a heavy rig that's getting in the way of learning how to gybe.

Sounds like the consensus is Carve anywhere from 80 to 95. The Evo 92 I tried is for sale, but it sounds like it might be twitchier than I need right now. Thanks for the tip on the longer fin Mark and thanks all for your replies!
Salamander
Salamander
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
26 Jan 2006 1:33pm
By the way, what would you expect to pay for a Carve 90 or similar second hand and where's the best place to look? How many years old is the Carve? When you find a board, how do you know how much it should weigh so you can check it? So many questions for you guys!

I've checked the forums here, ebay, trading post etc. Haven't been down to RPS or SHQ yet but will do so soon.
ju_724
ju_724
231 posts
231 posts
26 Jan 2006 4:01pm
the carves have been around for at least 5yrs, RPS may be your best bet as they are the 'starboard' dealer in Melb.
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