Is this a bit wrong?

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Alex H
Alex H
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14 Jan 2009 3:37pm
I think that seeing as this guy won this board in a competition (some seabreeze/GTC comp. I think) and he is sponsored by F2 he should give the board to a local windsurfing club or give it back to the GTC and so someone needy might get to own it, instead of trying to sell it for top dollar for a second hand board, no warranty etc...too.

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing/Boards/~rr63a/2008-Tabou-MANTA-67-229-cm-100-litres.aspx?search=BByyAPFFI6qbbRLa54pDFg%3d%3d
knot board
knot board
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1241 posts
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14 Jan 2009 2:42pm
Nothing wrong with that, good luck to him.


EDIT>> Nearly forgot, HTFU
whippingboy
whippingboy
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14 Jan 2009 1:55pm
He won it, he owns it. No problems.
I had a chuckle when I heard who won it

Generosity is not compulsory.
JayBee
JayBee
NSW
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14 Jan 2009 4:32pm
Given that we know nothing about Tonys sponsorship deal with F2, but it is quite probable that he doesnt get boards free, but rather at cost price.
This means he stillhas to fund his equipment, so if he can get some extra cash by selling the Tabou then what harm is that.

Someone else gets a brand new Tabou at significant discount.
Tony may choose to buy another F2 with the cash.
Tony has done the right thing by F2 by respecting the arrangement.

WRT warranty. The original manufacturers warranty is valid until its warranty period expires . Once the board was legitimately imported into Australia then warranty is not an issue. For example, I can buy a 2 year old car and it will still have one year (depends on model) of manufacturers warranty that I can avail of (even though I was not the original purchasor).

JB
bubs
bubs
SA
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14 Jan 2009 4:19pm
No it's not wrong lol, but i tell you what, i've never felt better and more thankful for Claude (the winner of the KA sail) to donate his prize back to the juniors. and i feel that for a prize this is obviously the best way to go i think!!! but his not obliged to donate his board back to the challenge so best of luck with it. although i do think that when you win a prize like this, selling it is not always the most moral thing to do!

Just my thoughts... i know what i would have done.

Bubs
Stewie
Stewie
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14 Jan 2009 5:01pm
He should donate it to some junior, he's probably rich anyway.

Alex H has a point. I would feel bad to profit from some flukey win.



Willaus0001
Willaus0001
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14 Jan 2009 4:07pm
yeah - i can see your point - but he lucked out and won it so its his to do whatever he wants with it.

Just a point for JayBee: I was actually looking through the manual of a mate who had just purchased a new board and i was suprised to find that with windsurfing gear - any warranty is apparently void once you sell the board - regardless of if its used or not. Its a bit s$*t, but something to remember.

Peace.
Richiefish
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14 Jan 2009 5:32pm
Stewie said...

He should donate it to some junior, he's probably rich anyway.

Alex H has a point. I would feel bad to profit from some flukey win.






STEWIE !!!!you're back !!!
evlPanda
evlPanda
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14 Jan 2009 6:37pm
Stewie said...
I would feel bad to profit from some flukey win.


Especially Lotto. I would feel awful.

easty
easty
TAS
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14 Jan 2009 7:47pm
evlPanda said...

Stewie said...
I would feel bad to profit from some flukey win.


Especially Lotto. I would feel awful.




yeah, really bad.

JayBee
JayBee
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714 posts
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14 Jan 2009 9:05pm
Willaus0001 said...

yeah - i can see your point - but he lucked out and won it so its his to do whatever he wants with it.

Just a point for JayBee: I was actually looking through the manual of a mate who had just purchased a new board and i was suprised to find that with windsurfing gear - any warranty is apparently void once you sell the board - regardless of if its used or not. Its a bit s$*t, but something to remember.

Peace.


I think you will find that the law in Oz says that items have statuatory warranties.

"The law says that all products supplied to a consumer must be fit for the purpose for which they were supplied.

Whether a product is made or sold with a warranty or a service is offered with a guarantee:

the product must be fit for the purpose for which it is supplied; and
the service must be carried out with due care and skill and any materials supplied will be reasonably fit for the purpose for which they are supplied.
A manufacturer must stand by its warranty and make reasonable efforts to ensure spare parts are available, unless it took reasonable action to notify that spare parts would not be available. If a supplier provides a service, then the materials supplied must also be fit for any particular purpose made known to the supplier or the result desired to be achieved and must be of a quality that will reasonably achieve that result."

Its the law, which is why I mentioned that the board has to be "legitimately" imported, because then you are on your own.
vando
vando
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14 Jan 2009 8:21pm
I see nothing wrong with this even if he wasnt sponcered he may of already had a board that size so y wouldnt you sell it and gets something you need.
swoosh
swoosh
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14 Jan 2009 8:59pm
nothing wrong with what he's doing. but not a price i would pay to be quite honest. btw isn't that last years board.


tony wyn
tony wyn
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14 Jan 2009 10:33pm
Hi all,
I'm not too sure how I've upset you guys.... All I did was get an email saying I'd won the board! The Tabou was a random prize draw for all competitors that had entered speeds in the GPS team challenge.
There may be some problem with the definition of "sponsored". I'm not sponsored in the sense like most sports in Aust for millions of dollars. If it matters, I pay more for my F2's than "non" sponsored guys do when they are 6 months old. ( I am expected to buy 3 of these a year). I use F2 because I choose to and love the boards but due to lack of funds am not updating to the 09's but sticking with the 08's. If I had won a sail or fin, I would have definately donated it back to the draw. KA are much more generous with gear and they don't cost me much. As far as selling it for "top dollar", The board is still unused and is an awesome board and is worth every cent of $2000.
I realise that our sport is awesome fun and is never going to make $$ as a professional sport (Memories of spending $15,000 to go to world cup in Fueteventura to win $300 prize money), but I'm not too sure why I have to justify selling this board to cover some costs etc??
As far as feeling guilty for winning Lotto?? Not sure either. If you won $2000 in lotto would you give it all to someone who needs it more??? Would be a nice thing to do.
If you drive a van (that you're perfectly happy with) and won a Commodore , would you give it away?
I have sold lots of gear VERY cheap to young guys and even given heaps away to get people started off just to help out. I'm not sure if I'm some guy ripping off the world of windsurfing...
Anyway thanks for the support from those who did and sorry if I have upset anyone.
cheers Tony
Bondalucci
Bondalucci
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14 Jan 2009 11:28pm
Hey Tony, well said.
Just curious though... if Iwent to the deed-poll office, and changed my surname to the same as yours,....
..... would I have more luck with random prizes??
Sailhack
Sailhack
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15 Jan 2009 12:30am
C'mon Tone,

Don't go crying poor just because someone's got sour grapes because they didn't win a 'random' comp that you happened to be lucky enough to win![}:)] How many people win those 'boy's-town' lottery houses/cars/boats, just to cash them in?

Sell it if you don't need it, and if you're selling it at 20% less than market value - someone's gonna get a good deal, so no-one should be complaining!

(btw-buddy-pal, I'm looking for a good/new/cheap 100lt board?!?)
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind
NSW
1871 posts
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15 Jan 2009 8:36am
We're just trying to soften you up before we come in with the ridiculous offer, see the tactics are working. . I'll give you a $1000 for it, any more and you're just being greedy..

If you're name ended in Dunkerbeck or Naish the OP's views could be justified.....maybe. It's always dangerous to make assumptions...I've known world class athletes that are struggling financialy because their commitment to a sport has required a huge financial investment to reach the objectives they aspire to.

Good luck with the sale, I just wish it was on the market before I bought my new board.
Stewie
Stewie
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15 Jan 2009 10:41am
Hi tony wyn.

I'm Stewie.

I'll give you $300 for it, and I'll promise, that I will give it to my blind, poor, sars ridden cousin back in Greece.
FlickySpinny
FlickySpinny
WA
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15 Jan 2009 8:50am
Nice one Tony - with you all the way.
sausage
sausage
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15 Jan 2009 10:19am
Winning a prize and redeeming it for cash is not even a little bit wrong.....but,



The below photo is every bit wrong





[photo deleted as it was too wrong - Apologies for offending photo]

Photo courtesy of Poor Relli's collection
Alex H
Alex H
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16 Jan 2009 10:15am
Chillax dudes...very hard I am already...no need to HTFU do I...spread the joy and happiness of the thrilling sport of windsurfing through giving whenever possible...more windsurfers do we need...help make the world a better place we will
lalalamort
lalalamort
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16 Jan 2009 10:18am
Strong be the force in that one
Stewie
Stewie
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16 Jan 2009 11:46am
Ok, I'll give you $301, it is last years model, and it has no warranty.

come on, I'll throw in some Hamburgers with the lot, and some fresh fish.

Stewie
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