JP XCite Ride 110L - Epoxy vs FWS?

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gregwed
gregwed
QLD
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QLD, 556 posts
24 Nov 2009 8:52am
I'm currently looking for a JP Xcite Ride 110L board and I see a few specials on the 2009 models which apparently are the same as the latest 2010 just released. I have some good prices from a Perth supplier but am confused re different prices for the full wood sandwich (FWS) and the cheaper epoxy one. On the JP website it just mentions the FWS and the Pro models - I thought the Pro models were dearer, but the ones quoted to me for epoxy are cheaper.

Anyone know the real difference in the JP FWS and epoxy models, recommendations, etc. $200 price difference.

Many thanks, Greg
WindmanV
WindmanV
VIC
825 posts
VIC, 825 posts
24 Nov 2009 10:12am
Hi, Greg,

The specs for the 2009 range are here http://www.jp-australia.com/2010/index.php?id=369 and you can see that the FWS saves about 1 kg in weight compared to the ES. Regret unable to find diagrams of the ES/FWS construction.

The lighter weight gives slightly earlier planing and the board is slightly stiffer.

I've had no problems with my 3-year old FWS model but suggest the use of a JP nose protector, just in case of a catapult. As you are in Qld, I'd suggest loosening the air valve after sailing and replace the whole air valve or the O ring on a yearly basis.

Hope this helps.
ducati
ducati
QLD
474 posts
QLD, 474 posts
24 Nov 2009 10:38am
gregwed said...


Anyone know the real difference in the JP FWS and epoxy models, recommendations, etc. $200 price difference.

Many thanks, Greg


Hey Greg I can only speak for the 2009 120L Xcite
Difference is ....Epoxy a doughy learners log or ....
FWS a great reponsive freeride board,
and the Pro even better but dearer more fragile and a harsher ride
Don't forget with the weight JP state you'll have to add 800 grams for footstraps paint etc so you 110will come in at 8.5kg which is tooohhheeeeaaaaavvvvyyyyyyyy

$200 to lose 1kg board weight is cheap Greg, it's usually closer to $500/kg
gregwed
gregwed
QLD
556 posts
QLD, 556 posts
24 Nov 2009 12:41pm
Thanks Ducati - So that means there are actually three models: Epoxy, FWS and Pro, so looks like the FWS is the go, agree with the $200 for a kg.
Appreciate the response.
Cheers!!
WindySimon
WindySimon
WA
47 posts
WA, 47 posts
24 Nov 2009 10:50am
in reality though the biggest factor is you and not the board. Almost always. So if you dont take a **** before you sail your 1kg heavier and thats not going to give good planing performance... haha

No really IMO the gear is 10% of the equation and you are 80% and the weather/conditions the remaining 10%...

gregwed
gregwed
QLD
556 posts
QLD, 556 posts
24 Nov 2009 1:41pm
80%, well at 59 next week, I think its a bit late for that!!
So anything I can do to assist to keep enjoying my sailing the better. I currently have a JP Freeride 99L but getting old in the tooth like me and needs an upgrade, maybe that's what I need!!!
I settled on the Xcite ride as I like JP and want to still go fast with the odd jump - all to keep up to you younger guys!! Think it's something to do with not wanting to grow old. Reckon there a few of you guys out there with the same opinion......
ducati
ducati
QLD
474 posts
QLD, 474 posts
24 Nov 2009 4:25pm
WindySimon said...

in reality though the biggest factor is you and not the board. Almost always. So if you dont take a **** before you sail your 1kg heavier and thats not going to give good planing performance... haha

No really IMO the gear is 10% of the equation and you are 80% and the weather/conditions the remaining 10%...




Hey Greg whether you **** B4 you sail or not is immaterial cause your weight is mobile or at least it should be and your board is a dead weight.
To get on the plane in light conditions you unweight the board by hanging off the boom as the wind takes at least some of you weight.

I think Jp dropped the Epoxy for 2010
The X-cite is probably not the choice for the really serious punter but for us mere mortals it puts the biggest smile on you dial that you won't wipe off for hours after. Bit like an epic ride thru the mountains on a Ducati actually
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
24 Nov 2009 3:22pm
gregwed said...

80%, well at 59 next week, I think its a bit late for that!!
So anything I can do to assist to keep enjoying my sailing the better. I currently have a JP Freeride 99L but getting old in the tooth like me and needs an upgrade, maybe that's what I need!!!
I settled on the Xcite ride as I like JP and want to still go fast with the odd jump - all to keep up to you younger guys!! Think it's something to do with not wanting to grow old. Reckon there a few of you guys out there with the same opinion......


Greg I have the 2009 JP X-Cite 110. Bloody great board Its a bit tougher on the legs than a FWS as there isnt as much give. If you have a choice, go the FWS.

My orginal was a 2008 FWS 130 and on light wind days, is a cruise to sail.
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