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elmo
elmo
WA
8896 posts
WA, 8896 posts
24 Jun 2004 7:17am
The hardman, my more enlightened windsurfing mate introduced me to speedsailing during the end of last summer and since then we have been having some good time on water in our local area when the waves have not been on or the wind direction sucks for our part of the ocean.

I thought I'd drop a line (or 3) to let the northern go-faster crew know off a few spots which are pretty good down here with the winter winds.

Cobblers
Down the end OLIVE Rd Falcon (turn at cobblers tavern)there is a nice grassed rigging area, carpark, toilets and BBQ (me thinks by memory)
this place works from ESE & NE-N.
This place realy comes into it's own in the northerly as a couple of km away is the Novara foreshore which gives lovely flat water whilst the breeze picks up speed again on the water.
For the more energetic from this point it is approximately 8-9km to the other side of the estuary, it is recommended to mark you start point or take a GPS on these runs as the coastline is pretty nondescript so you can go offline fairly easily and end up km's away from where you want to be.

Novara
Dampier Rd Falcon. Boat ramp or near Irving street.
Wind directions Southerly through to Easterly
Nice flat water, you can sail long runs on most of the above wind directions.

Kite beach.
Name says it all, in summer theres more drag queens here than the Sydney mardi gras (can't complain it keeps them of the ocean). Northeastern side of the Dawesville channel. you get there by going down Esturay place follow track around to the end carpark there, sand rigging area.

Coodanup (Nairns)
Eastern end of Peel pde and down the end of John st Coodanup.
narrow graased rigging areas on side of road and a back breaking 3m walk to the water
Westerly - Southerly

AVI Bay
Pure salt water, very special on the right wind direction NW when it's blowing hard, run a couple of metre's inside the reef line. It's 1km runs of Pure filth when the wind direction is just right.

Things to know about the estuary.

The water is quite flat, you can get up to knee high waves out in the middle but that is a fair war out and generally does not tend to get too choppy.

It's not deep, you can use formula gear with your Ken big fins but you just have to go out further. 3-400 fins not to much of a problem 50-100m offshore.

It's bloody cold, mate.. there's icecubes floating out there (only a slight exageration), the joys of shallow water, it cools real quick.


There is weed, don't see it drifting around like safety bay but with a long fin you can plow a lot of it up. we've been using normal slalom fins but a weed fin in the back of the car would not go astray.

Cobblers, (not the pub) after treading on one in summer I can say with authority (and not wanting to sound sissy like) that it was an interesting experience, in reality 12hrs of pain which you can't get rid of easily. We do have a schidt load of these little beasties down here, wear booties if you got them.
The only way for quelling some of the pain is with heat. Be carefull when doing this, a lot of people have ended up with some very nice burns trying to get away from the pain. SLOWLY add hot water to your bucket of water with your foot in it to raise temp. Alternatively wheat heat-packs do the job quite well and they are much easier to use.

Bugsy and Matt from Avalon sail co are trying to line up possible comp down this way, If you are interested give them a call.


I don't know if this is of any use to my northern cousins, but I thought I'd put it out there to let you know what we have down here. I hope I haven't come accross like the Tourist bureau.

see yaz in the water (don't laugh as ya go past)

Alby
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Simon
Simon
WA
275 posts
WA, 275 posts
24 Jun 2004 7:37am
Hey Elmo,
Thanks for all the info. Just bought myself a new slalom board so will have to come down and join you guys in the summer.
If you are serious about a event, talk to WWA, as there is a speed gun available, we have used it at Safey BAy a couple of times. Really successful.
I would be more than happy to help sponsor the event as well, i'll throw in some lesson vouchers as prizes, or come down and do a free clinic.

Cheers
Simon

www.gowindsurfing.com



Simon
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
24 Jun 2004 10:11am
hey ernie... i mean elmo cool info... i hope to sail with you soon... wake me up after i finish hybonating im there...

GONE WITH THE WIND
Chris Lockwood
Chris Lockwood
WA
9 posts
WA, 9 posts
24 Jun 2004 10:41am
Hey Alby,

What wind directions do we need for avalon to go off as a speed strip? How shallow is it? Does the swell leak through the reef?

Speed is totally underrated as a discipline. Those who find it boring clearly arent pushing it hard enough :)

Chris
silvec01
silvec01
WA
645 posts
WA, 645 posts
24 Jun 2004 12:38pm
quote:
Originally posted by Simon

Hey Elmo,
Thanks for all the info. Just bought myself a new slalom board so will have to come down and join you guys in the summer.
If you are serious about a event, talk to WWA, as there is a speed gun available, we have used it at Safey BAy a couple of times. Really successful.
I would be more than happy to help sponsor the event as well, i'll throw in some lesson vouchers as prizes, or come down and do a free clinic.

Cheers
Simon

www.gowindsurfing.com



Simon




Simon just needs sails now,,, but he does paddle his board really fast....
yoyo
yoyo
WA
1646 posts
WA, 1646 posts
24 Jun 2004 1:13pm
Hey thanks ,elmo, NOT!!!!

Why did you want to advertise the best kept secret around????

The nice thing about the inlet was having it to ourselves as the kiters seem to have some invisible umbilical attachment to the beach. Now everyman and his dog is going to turn up in a decent blow.
leski
leski
NSW
661 posts
NSW, 661 posts
24 Jun 2004 3:27pm
hey.. it's only an inlet !!!

so where's that ??? exactly ??? I might bring my jetski and blast around if that's ok!!
Fieldie
Fieldie
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
24 Jun 2004 1:50pm
Yoyo, The majority of launches Alby mentions that I've been to on the estuary have banks lined with paperbarks, and are inaccessible to the teabaggers. But man, is Hardie going to be P#SSED!!!!! (remember, you still have the power to drag this thread Alby...)

While most of the time the area is flat, stronger easterliles can whip up some savage chop for a bit of fun!

quote:
Speed is totally underrated as a discipline. Those who find it boring clearly arent pushing it hard enough :)

Chris
I couldn't agree more (though haven't mastered waves yet) ...and the prangs don't hurt that much - just the sail repair costs...

In the spirit of sharing unique blasting conditions, it is well worth a trip a little further South when strong Northerly or Southerly breezes coincide with low tides.

The boat channel leading from the boat ramp near the BP servo on Old Coast Road Australind is great when low tide sees water protected by exposed sand bar either side.

You can get awesome channel runs on a decent N or S blow, as the water protected behind the windward sand bar is like glass. Keep your mind on the game though some of us have come bloody close to the 300mm diam channel marker pylons at full tilt.

Does anyone regurlarly head to Augusta or Denmark/Walpole? Any info on Esperance would be appreciated also...

Getting gone!!!
Seaton
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12887 posts
WA, 12887 posts
24 Jun 2004 6:53pm
quote [What wind directions do we need for avalon to go off as a speed strip? How shallow is it? Does the swell leak through the reef?]

Chris,
W.N.W. is direct onshore, a bit either side means a downwind run in one direction. Water just inside the reef line is quite deep, but the reef itself is out of the water in spots. There are a few deeper spots where the swell gets through, more so on high tide, only knee high, but the occasional good jump is possible. Wouldn't say it's an ideal speed run, becuase of the swell, but it's huge fun!!!!!



decrepit
elmo
elmo
WA
8896 posts
WA, 8896 posts
24 Jun 2004 6:59pm
Yoyo,
sorry to offend, I didn't realise kiter's read this collumn[}:)][}:)]

Possibly now I've truely offended.

everone else

The beauty about most of the sites (apart from Kiter beach) is that the teabag brigade can't lauch due to the natural follage, they can only lauch from the water.

Re crowds on the estuary... have you seen the size of that sucker, look at the grd map in the front of your road map and compare oit to the swan. It's close to 9km's across from coblers to Yunderup and 4-5kms to the other side on the closer section, even from Kiters is roughly 2km.

Thats a schidt load of water to clogg up with 1-2 dozen sailers (extremely optimisticly) admitedly I need a lot more room about me for my high speed splatt jibes when on the slalom gear.

re avi bay, one gap down south end not a problem, but you've got to be there when the wind is just at that right direction and the tide is sweet so local sailers are always going to have the advantage of being available.


Whenever I've gone out on the slalom gear it's generaly only with Hardie, Matt and Bugsy, there's no one else out.

If you know me and you probably do, then you know with my sailing style, I need people around me
A. to hold my hand
B. to drag my bleeding body back to shore (windsurfing is still a full contact sport).

I Must admit I'm a wave sailer first, I hate the estuary in comparison to the ocean, but when there is wind and no waves I'm not going to hide under my dooner.

I use the slalom gear as technique training as it is a lot less forgiving than the wave gear that requires me to be considerably more precise with what I do.


Plus
There is something about going that fast and pushing your gear so close to the limit that you start Clenching. a 6km downwind run with +30kn's blowing, old 6.4 quad cam sail and an old square railed race board tends to stain the undies quite well.

Why I posted this is we do have a number of people down here who like the go fast stuff. Matt and Bugsy have been involved in the Perth comp scene and miss it over winter, and it's much more fun when you have more crew around pushing your limits.

There is also a huge potential for the wide board crew to go here there and everywhere

I'm just hoping this summer that we get the massive easterlies which blow for 3-4 days, That 20km+ run south down towards lake clifton looks like a fun way to blast away a flat summer day.

Hope to catch ya in the water and I hope to be able to out run the people I've upset.

All the best

Alby




Life is but a dream, from which we all must wake.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12887 posts
WA, 12887 posts
24 Jun 2004 7:01pm
quote:

Does anyone regurlarly head to Augusta or Denmark/Walpole? Any info on Esperance would be appreciated also...
Seaton



Went to Augusta last year, and it had gone off, too much sand hills developed in front of the channel, was very dirty air. The year before some mates where there and said it was awesome, very low sand bar, great speed course.

Not a lot at Denmark, so I guess the same for Walpole, but Esperance can be fantastic, usually late December to Febuary when the big highs sit in the bight. Flat water sailing from the yacht club in town, or wave sailing at the ocean beaches.

decrepit
yoyo
yoyo
WA
1646 posts
WA, 1646 posts
25 Jun 2004 3:52pm
elmo, no offence taken. it was a joke!! hmmm... internet not so good for irony and sarcasm. Actually the more that come down the better I feel lonely out on my own.
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
25 Jun 2004 8:55pm
hey yoyo ive been to kite beach a few times at the end of last season and no one was there and it was joy... i sailed it on my own for a few hours and couldnt believe that not a soul was with me... ill be there alot this season... see you there...

GONE WITH THE WIND
hardman
hardman
1116 posts
1116 posts
26 Jun 2004 7:47am
The more windsurfers on the Peel Estuary the Better I reckon. We need to populate or perish

If we don't use it others

Hardie SoftBoy
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