made for a goofy footer then ?

Cobra.
The rail tucking dood didn't give a s..t and didn't know what he was doing . He doesn't sail or surf , probably can't swim .
Getting paid peanuts and getting sick doing what he's doing . It's sad . That's why there's no pics anywhere of what goes on in that factory . Even though the big boys broshures say so , Eco friendly my ass !
It been a while since I've ranted , I feel better now

Ahhh, the ol assymetricals are back in vogue! Just at other section of board...

Gestalt said..
glaring issue is the rail shape is not consistent from side to side. it's not out by a little bit either. the point that the rail goes from hard to tuck is about 300mm different on the left side versus the right side. maybe it was shaped by a kid!

Hmmm, that is really interesting.

Does the board go faster or turn better on one tack or the other? If not, that might be an indication that rail shape in that part of a board doesn't make any real difference anyhow.

Starboard Flare 111lt 2012. 2345x66 slot box.
my son uses this as his lightwind bump and jump board. straps as measured are set as close together as possible.
adults would have them further apart. remember these measurements are nominal only and won't be exact.

this board is a bit of a classic.

Well spotted dave!

it's interesting that 3 different boards from 3 different manufacturers have very similar entry rockers.

hey martin.

it's double concave inside a mono concave. the way the 2 concaves relate means the line i'm showing is notional only. with a double concave inside a mono concave the double concave is deeper near the rail. with this board the concave centre flows out where the rear fins are.

there are a few manufacturers that use this type of bottom shape. I didn't put the board manufacturers name on this one. while it is not their current shape I think the latest model fairly similar.

Also has generous rocker which will make it a bit tougher to get it up but I guess with that complex bottom it id hard to measure
the true rocker as it will vary all over the place.

good point re rocker.

the rocker shown is along the centreline of the board. so in the case of the V bottom boards would be the true rocker profile.
in the case of the mono concave board the true rocker is the stringer profile plus the concave depth along the stringer. also the mono concave has 1mm of V in the tail.

65lt Tri

nope. too small for me.
I'm measuring my boards so I can understand them further. thought it would be interesting discussion but apparently not. probably do a longboard and then stop.

it would be good if people measured the boards they are commenting on.

am currently working up a design tho.

I wanna know why hoops is asking
If he's interested so am I

My personal preference (waveboards) from all I've ridden and a few builds is a lot of rocker and then deep concaves to flatten out the centreline rocker to get it up and planing. Makes a fast board, but once you get it over on a rail it turns well as you start to engage a rail with a lot of curve.

Tons of ways to skin a cat though, and boards with an almost opposite approach are legendary wave riders.

When starting out, I compared a lot of rockerlines for a surfboard build and made my own that worked well. That first rocker template fits SO MANY factory boards its crazy. There really is so little difference, and so much comes down to the feel u like and its made by tiny tweaks. Now and then a legendary board comes along that so many people love and its usually middle of the road in all design parameters. My thoughts on bottom shape for waveboards are stolen from one of those boards (pretty much) that everyone loved.

^^^ yeah and its not fun.

Mark _australia said..
I wanna know why hoops is asking
If he's interested so am I

My personal preference (waveboards) from all I've ridden and a few builds is a lot of rocker and then deep concaves to flatten out the centreline rocker to get it up and planing. Makes a fast board, but once you get it over on a rail it turns well as you start to engage a rail with a lot of curve.

Tons of ways to skin a cat though, and boards with an almost opposite approach are legendary wave riders.

When starting out, I compared a lot of rockerlines for a surfboard build and made my own that worked well. That first rocker template fits SO MANY factory boards its crazy. There really is so little difference, and so much comes down to the feel u like and its made by tiny tweaks. Now and then a legendary board comes along that so many people love and its usually middle of the road in all design parameters. My thoughts on bottom shape for waveboards are stolen from one of those boards (pretty much) that everyone loved.

it's an interesting shape the for sure. the board gets very high reviews so it definitely works. my own opinion is i'd like to see the v longer in the tail.

most of my boards are based around a v and double concaves.