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Crash Landing
Crash Landing
NSW
1173 posts
NSW, 1173 posts
5 Feb 2007 2:18pm
So I use epoxy resin and sugar. Is that right? Doesn't it dissolve? Don't ants eat it? How do i know when i have put enough on?

Ta!
NSW, 1613 posts
5 Feb 2007 2:23pm
Hey Crash,

I normally use polyester resin and castor sugar for good results.

Drop on by if you want and we can run you through it if your not too sure.

All the best,

Sam.
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
5 Feb 2007 2:29pm
No normal epoxy will brown with exposure to UV.
CJW
CJW
NSW
1731 posts
CJW CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
5 Feb 2007 6:55pm
Honestly I reckon you're playing with fire putting polyester resin anywhere near a polystyrene cored board. Sure, it should be 'sealed' but that stuff has a habit of finding its way into unwanted places. Better safe than sorry imo. Use a UV stabilised Epoxy resin.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
5 Feb 2007 10:45pm
Don't agree, if resin can find it's way in, so will salt water, that board would way a ton!!!

Polyester (surfboard grade, nice and clear) is harder, so last's longer.

That's what I use, if it hasn't gone off (don't use it very often, and it doesn't last long in plastic containers).

It's worth getting Sam's run down, cause resin thickness is critical, too much and it really soaks up the sugar, ends up thick and heavy.
Too little and the sugar doesn't stick very well.

The top layer of sugar will dissolve off, but leave a layer behind that the resin has soaked into and bonded with.
ducati
ducati
QLD
474 posts
QLD, 474 posts
6 Feb 2007 4:28pm
HEY SAM
Howz about you give us all a rundown on this forum using polyester to regrip...........
PLEEZE (i bought a board of you last year) suck
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
6 Feb 2007 8:40pm
It's not too hard, tape out where you don't want it, brush or pour resin on, even it out to desired thickness, sprinkle on sugar until there's no sign of wetness, the sugar can look a bit damp, but it's best if it's all dry, just to be safe.
When completly hard brush off excess sugar then if you have ant problems a good wash to dissolve the top layer of sugar.

The trick is resin thickness, I think 150 mls/grams should do a waveboard.
My last board, I thought I had it exactly right, just one layer of crystals tightly and evenly spaced, but it's too even, is a bit slippery.
Think now it's best if there are 2 or 3 crystal layers, then it tends to "clump" a bit causing small iregularities that increase grip.

A mate of mine tells by the feel of the brush, if it drags a lot, the resin is too thin, if it doesn't drag at all the resin is too thick.

Best thing to do is experiment on a small surface till you get the knack.
NSW, 1613 posts
7 Feb 2007 9:34am
Cheers Decrepit,

Better description than would have come off my keyboard.

Sam.

Crash Landing
Crash Landing
NSW
1173 posts
NSW, 1173 posts
7 Feb 2007 10:46am
Thanks Decrepit/Sam

I will experiment....
nbr
nbr
QLD
298 posts
nbr nbr
QLD, 298 posts
7 Feb 2007 12:39pm
Be carefull using epoxy and sugar,a friend used this method and ended up with a rasp on his deck which took most of the skin off his leg when he stacked.It looked like he had been skinned.
Juice
Juice
WA
280 posts
WA, 280 posts
7 Feb 2007 11:50am
1 wave board = 40mls UV resistant epoxy + 200ml caster sugar
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
7 Feb 2007 12:29pm
quote:
Originally posted by nbr

Be carefull using epoxy and sugar,a friend used this method and ended up with a rasp on his deck which took most of the skin off his leg when he stacked.It looked like he had been skinned.



You'll note every body's been saying "castor sugar" no problems with this stuff it's so fine, but yeh stay away from common garden variety sugar, much too coarse.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
7 Feb 2007 12:33pm
quote:
Originally posted by Juice

1 wave board = 40mls UV resistant epoxy + 200ml caster sugar



You're doing them a lot more often then me juice, but 40mls seems like an awfully small amount, a decent size brush will just about soak up that much. Are you spraying it on??? And how much of the board are you doing? I only go just far enough in front of the mast to cover the tacking area. (In case I ever learn to do them) And still use more than 100mls I'm sure
Juice
Juice
WA
280 posts
WA, 280 posts
7 Feb 2007 12:40pm
4" roller from bunnings with about 3mm of "hair" on it 40mls = the whole board tail to nose just did three boards that way last friday for Garry, Grahame and Ian.
My old twin fin wave hog is about 5 years old now done that way and is still grippy
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
7 Feb 2007 12:46pm
Wow, I'm impressed, so what about the sugar? how close are the grains?
As I said earlier on the last board I achieved a thin tightly packed surface that's a bit slippery. Think it would be better either thicker, or with less dense grains. If they were a bit further apart, they'd probably grip better.
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