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jp747
jp747
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11 Aug 2008 7:28pm
finally stumbled onto his old vid i've been searching but the way he controls in mid-air on slalom equipment is really amazing<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="
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enjoy!
Old Salty
Old Salty
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11 Aug 2008 9:38pm
Hey JP

Some serious height he was getting. Great vid.
Hey- anything happening with that piece of land
jp747
jp747
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11 Aug 2008 7:55pm
Old Salty said...

Hey JP


Hey- anything happening with that piece of land


glad you asked Old Salty, i bumped into a swiss windsurfer and eventually ended up joining forces to get it with not him around so as not to attract eyes with $$$'s if you know what i mean..as of this moment am looking around for bamboo style nipa huts on google and yahoo and just about anything related..we want it simple but with a decent throne to sit in..very rugged the terrain for now we like to keep it that way and a very nice reef 300mtrs. offshore..that was the hardest i have ever done just to acquire something and have an interpreter speak on my behalf since the dialect is a bit strange but very good natured fellas..we hope to open 2-4huts by this nov. if not more when season starts..and i will invite everyone with a %discount if you arrive and know my seabreeze nameseriously i had to go thru 11 families on one lot and 7 on the other and you know how just the simple process of procuring death cert.'s for everyonei counted at least 58 people on the special power of atty..wind is definitely on shore and the reef protects it from too much waves when it blows hard..there is a cell site 4kms. to get wireless internet which is a plus and birds still abound which was nice...regards
Old Salty
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11 Aug 2008 9:59pm
Keep us informed about what is happening as I am sure you will have a few of us lining up
hoop
hoop
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11 Aug 2008 8:31pm
That was some cool footage. Whats the biggest jump anyone has ever filmed or photographed?
Would be interseting to see what people come up with.
Haggar
Haggar
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11 Aug 2008 10:32pm
Wow, unbelievable footage for that time in the sport. I have never seen jumping like that with a slalom board and race sail
Mobydisc
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11 Aug 2008 10:35pm
Good on you JP. You will have to explain to us how to get there, the best way to avoid trouble and get there and back in one piece.


Great video too. Robby is the best.
sflack
sflack
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11 Aug 2008 10:57pm
Thats fantastic!

But some of those landings looked painful?
Bondalucci
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11 Aug 2008 11:13pm
Man I love that RIP video.

When teaching my Yr 11 VCE P.E classes "what motivates some people to risk death in extreme sports", I've used those Robbie Naish sections, edited with big wave surfin at jaws, snowboarding and sky diving from movie PT Break.

....the students go nuts when they see the height of those jumps.

Makes you realise how little the average person gets to view elite windsurfing.

P.S- the start if the vid, where Robbies "just cruising" round "his own back yard" Kailuah Bay, always makes me wish I lived there, and is the essence of windsurfing for me.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23687 posts
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11 Aug 2008 9:50pm
jp747 said...

Old Salty said...

Hey JP


Hey- anything happening with that piece of land


glad you asked Old Salty, i bumped into a swiss windsurfer and eventually ended up joining forces to get it with not him around so as not to attract eyes with $$$'s if you know what i mean..as of this moment am looking around for bamboo style nipa huts on google and yahoo and just about anything related..we want it simple but with a decent throne to sit in..very rugged the terrain for now we like to keep it that way and a very nice reef 300mtrs. offshore..that was the hardest i have ever done just to acquire something and have an interpreter speak on my behalf since the dialect is a bit strange but very good natured fellas..we hope to open 2-4huts by this nov. if not more when season starts..and i will invite everyone with a %discount if you arrive and know my seabreeze nameseriously i had to go thru 11 families on one lot and 7 on the other and you know how just the simple process of procuring death cert.'s for everyonei counted at least 58 people on the special power of atty..wind is definitely on shore and the reef protects it from too much waves when it blows hard..there is a cell site 4kms. to get wireless internet which is a plus and birds still abound which was nice...regards




Hey JP I know it is not fitting with the local building style, but have a look at straw bale houses.
It is using straw bales to build the walls, then covering with about half inch of concrete. They insulate really well, are so easy to build and cheap too.
Google it ... seriously
Mark _australia
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11 Aug 2008 9:52pm
Bondalucci said...

Man I love that RIP video.

When teaching my Yr 11 VCE P.E classes "what motivates some people to risk death in extreme sports", I've used those Robbie Naish sections,



Awesome. More young people need to see the hardcore aspect of windsurfing. I wish there was more PE teachers like you (or sports tonight presenters, or advertising ppl, etc)
jp747
jp747
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11 Aug 2008 10:28pm
I love this guy that's why he's the "man"..full on speed on logo high waves on a slalom boardand sailincredible..yes i'd really like to know who has made the highest jump too..R.I.P. now that bears to mind the video cassette given to me that had Robby doing his thing on open ocean..his landings really does look hurting if not done right, i'd probably hear my knees krackle

regarding the land, we thought of straw for roofing and insulating but if you were using kerosene lamps or candles for the midnight extra activities it'b a fire hazard for now till we can get our hands on solar panels..i talked to a few furniture builders on the island and they mentioned using coconut lumber priced there at 2aus$ per tree with bark on meaning if you cut the 4sides to get to the core the slabs would be put side to side and for outer covering and bamboo interweaved mats for inside..i just spoke with this swiss guy a few minutes earlier and he has some interesting thoughts of balinese style cabanas..remains to be seen though we meet thursday. The bottom line here is the cottages must be reflective of the surroundings(foliage, trees, terrain, etc.) and as less cement as possible only the local volcanic rock available for any hard surfaces to be made..as for moby if you all don't mind a boat trip for now since the local airline has stopped operations till mid-nov.season starts oct. then i guess it'll be just ok..tranquility is a must but there's 2 local karaoke bar 5kms. away
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
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12 Aug 2008 1:42am
> More (...) people need to see the hardcore aspect of windsurfing.

I agree. This was done on a plank, just about. It's not the quiver and the trailer and equipment. It's the guy.
Jens
Jens
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12 Aug 2008 11:01am
Hi Folks,

It's interesting to keep an eye on the sail during those high jumps. You'll notice that there's no twist-just heaps of power. Thinking back on those old days it seems to me that jumps did used to be higher. What do you reckon-is it the effects of sail twist depowering in flight, or just age, with the associated wussiness that comes with accumulating injuries, aches and pains?

Not that I'm anti-twist or anything. I just love the loose feeling of wave sails these days, but wonder whether some lift was sacrificed along the way.

Cheers, Jens
555
555
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12 Aug 2008 11:26am
Might be the eyes going? I can see twist... I can even see the leach near the head flutter a couple of times..

My understanding is that we run bigger sails now with twist than what was used in the same wind conditions pre-twist. So the lift is the same, but the control is increased, along with the comfortably usable windrange..

Damn that guy is fast - that last segment just before the end is fair honking without even a slight hint of being uncomfortable!

Still - everything was bigger, brighter and better back in the day! Even if we did have to walk 6 miles to school in bare feet in the middle of winter after a breakfast of cold stodgy porridge...
Mobydisc
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12 Aug 2008 2:14pm
555 said...


Still - everything was bigger, brighter and better back in the day! Even if we did have to walk 6 miles to school in bare feet in the middle of winter after a breakfast of cold stodgy porridge...


cold stodgy porridge! Luxury.



pierrec45
pierrec45
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12 Aug 2008 5:17pm
Interesting note Jens. Now that you mention it, we don't get to see this type of jumps anymore on the Tube and others, or I have missed them. I mean height/speed/length of jumps.

Can anyone point to a modern equivalent? There are so many pros and clips now, there must be some somewhere.
Jman
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12 Aug 2008 5:37pm
How do u open that link?
555
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12 Aug 2008 5:53pm
pierrec45 said...

Can anyone point to a modern equivalent? There are so many pros and clips now, there must be some somewhere.


Off the top of my head:
Phillip Koester 14yrs old - Pozo. Check the jump at around 1:09


Or, if you're a subscriber : http://www.boardseekermag.com/moves_and_movies/windsurfing-movies.html?cat=2&name=IRELAND+-+Bloody+Foreland&path=..%2Fvideo%2Fmandm%2Fmovies%2F&file=SF_021_IRELAND_Bloody_Foreland512K_Stream512K_Stream&inc=specials.inc.php
The jump in this movie is really insane.. Mind you, so is the wind!

Squid Lips
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12 Aug 2008 6:10pm
pierrec45 said...


Can anyone point to a modern equivalent? There are so many pros and clips now, there must be some somewhere.


There's some similar modern footage of Robby sailing like that in The Windsurfing Movie.
jp747
jp747
1553 posts
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12 Aug 2008 6:30pm
gotta have the heart or just plain balls for it-bottom line..that 14yr. old kid surely could match height but not just on any equipment..most of the high flying vids that i've seen have guys mostly about to rotate when landing and can't get a straight path to go on powered maybe dunkie could, never saw a vid of albeau or pritchard yet thoughi'd really like to see more of them aerial shots on long distance runs it's fun to see..anyone got any
easty
easty
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12 Aug 2008 10:00pm
Yep, RIP is a great vid. Makes me want to rush out and get the latest gear so I can do that Sigh.
Chris 249
Chris 249
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12 Aug 2008 10:00pm
Some time ago, Boards magazine ran an article saying that the old tight-leach sails (and the use of slalom boards, with their higher approach speed) DID make for bigger jumps.

The twisted sails may make for higher speeds because of reduced drag, but that doesn't mean they'll make for higher jumps when lift may be the most important factor.
pierrec45
pierrec45
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13 Aug 2008 1:07am
I don't understand how they achieve those heights.

I've seen myself times at Wanda (not in a few years though) in perfect strong cross-shore southerlies, OK-to-good waves, right choice of gear, perfect speed for height, no excuse. And yet not matching these heights at all. Sure waves there is not Hawaii, but still.

I could never figure out what I'm doing wrong then, nor now. Frustrating.
westhammer
westhammer
WA
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12 Aug 2008 11:33pm
Energy Tai chi jumping ,thats the secret.oops
WINDY MILLER
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13 Aug 2008 9:43am
555 said...

pierrec45 said...

Can anyone point to a modern equivalent? There are so many pros and clips now, there must be some somewhere.


Off the top of my head:
Phillip Koester 14yrs old - Pozo. Check the jump at around 1:09


Or, if you're a subscriber : http://www.boardseekermag.com/moves_and_movies/windsurfing-movies.html?cat=2&name=IRELAND+-+Bloody+Foreland&path=..%2Fvideo%2Fmandm%2Fmovies%


2F&file=SF_021_IRELAND_Bloody_Foreland512K_Stream512K_Stream&inc=specials.inc.php


yowzers HUGE


MikeyS
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13 Aug 2008 2:01pm
pierrec45 said...

I don't understand how they achieve those heights.

I've seen myself times at Wanda (not in a few years though) in perfect strong cross-shore southerlies, OK-to-good waves, right choice of gear, perfect speed for height, no excuse. And yet not matching these heights at all. Sure waves there is not Hawaii, but still.

I could never figure out what I'm doing wrong then, nor now. Frustrating.


I think it's because they are still getting vertical lift from the sail when they're still going up by keeping sheeted in. You see them landing some of the jumps a fair way downwind of where they launched from, which suggests a fair bit of drag during the jump. The opposite of this is getting lift when descending as well. I know that my landings are much softer by staying sheeted in during the descent, rather than sheeting out or bailing out. Kind of like half a hang-glider.
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