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Created by Gestalt Saturday, 12 Jan 2019
Gestalt
QLD, 11735 posts
Saturday , 12 Jan 2019 7:00AM
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I'm looking at simmer sails and was hoping i could get some comments and feedback.

i'm interested in comparing of the apex with the icon and the vmax with the enduro.

thx

Sparky
WA, 801 posts
Saturday , 12 Jan 2019 7:07AM
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I have started using the simmer race sails, the quality, the finish are great. Light and strong, love them.

Swindy
WA, 239 posts
Saturday , 12 Jan 2019 10:40AM
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It all depends on what size sails, conditions and what you want from a sail. I recently got a 5.9 and 5.4 enduro as cross over sails for medium wind foiling and bay blasting bump and jump conditions for which they have worked really well. The apex looks very similar and probably has a slightly higher cut in the foot as it is a wave sail. If you are looking at smaller sizes the icon would be great for onshore bump and jump and a great allround wave sail. At the other end of the spectrum if you are looking at the v max you should also consider the 2XC. I have these for foiling from 6.5 to 7.8. The 6.5 is probably my most used sail this season as it is also great to throw on a slalom board for a lazy after work blast rather than a full on session with the race sails.
Hope this helps a bit.

Gestalt
QLD, 11735 posts
Sunday , 13 Jan 2019 8:58AM
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thanks guys for the comments.

i had a look at an new apex and used icon yesterday. but only saw the icon rigged.

i'm still swinging either way with the vmax and enduro. Am looking at 7+ size for flat water in light winds.
the other sails like the apex/icon/blacktip would be bump and jump and then pure wave in the smaller sizes.

Gestalt
QLD, 11735 posts
Sunday , 13 Jan 2019 9:05AM
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how are you guys finding mast compatibility. everyone i know using simmer tells me they work on all constant curve masts. powerex, ka , unifibre etc.

Swindy
WA, 239 posts
Sunday , 13 Jan 2019 10:04AM
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At 7+ and flat conditions go the v max. It will give more stability than the enduru and be faster. I would still highly recommend the 2XC. Light, fast and stable and rotate so easy. I rig my 7.8 on a 460 ezzy rdm and it rigs perfectly and have rigged the 6.5 on a tushy 430 sdm with no issues.

Wednesday , 16 Jan 2019 9:56AM
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Hi Gestalt

Yes all the Simmer Style sails are all Constant Curve.
They have been for many years and will continue to be.
All Simmer mast is constant curve (no big surprise :) )

The good thing is that you can use older Simmer masts just as fine in new sails / or newer mast in older Simmer sails..
Keep it simple :)

For the sails and what I can understand you are after, then like Roger all ready mentioned. Then for the bigger sails the Vmax is the go. (from 6.6 and up).

Enduro is a mix between wave and freeride. I used my 5.9 yesterday for a blast and they are amazingly fast / stable and lots of fun.
If you are 'just'doing Jump and Bump then consider following options.
5.4, 5.9, 6.5

If you want the full wave style sails in the smaller sizes , then Blacktip or Icon.
Icon is closer to the Enduro style sail and blacktip is the 4 batten powersail

Hope the above helped a bit.

morts
WA, 122 posts
Wednesday , 16 Jan 2019 10:12AM
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Jesper are the SCS and SCR able to be used with RDM masts? Asking about sizes from 7m down. Cheers

Swindy
WA, 239 posts
Wednesday , 16 Jan 2019 11:51AM
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Im using rdm cams in my SCR sails morts. 6.3 and down to 5.4 haven't tried in the 7 but should be ok. Jesper has the rdm cams unless i got them all.

morts
WA, 122 posts
Wednesday , 16 Jan 2019 12:24PM
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Thanks Swindy

Adam555
WA, 87 posts
Wednesday , 16 Jan 2019 2:02PM
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Gestalt said..
how are you guys finding mast compatibility. everyone i know using simmer tells me they work on all constant curve masts. powerex, ka , unifibre etc.


Gestalt
I'm using a 7.1 2xc on a NP full carbon mast and it rigs and sails well despite the NP masts not being constant curve as I understand it?

I have now had quite a bit more time on the 2xc than my initial review and as far as great value for $$s go you can't go wrong. Cam rotation in gybes is amazing and sail is nice and light-

I have of late been spending a bit of time to tune ie downhaul/ outhaul and adjust harness lines as in the strong gusty conditions we've been having lately I was finding the sail isn't as stable in higher wind as my previous NP hellcats despite the cams BUT recent 10mm backward shift of harness lines made a huge improvement in this area and has significantly improved the comfort level. In lighter wind the sail shines !

Adam

Gestalt
QLD, 11735 posts
Wednesday , 16 Jan 2019 9:04PM
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thanks for all of the advice so far.

very valuable stuff.

Thursday , 17 Jan 2019 9:27AM
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morts said..
Jesper are the SCS and SCR able to be used with RDM masts? Asking about sizes from 7m down. Cheers


Hi Morts

Like Swindy said, then yes you can easily use the RDM cambers on the SCR / SCS or 2XC if you want.
It is very simple to change over to the RDM cambers if required, and normally no extra spacers is needed (as the RDM cambers are longer)

Also for the 2XC twin cam they already comes with an extra RDM camber (top camber is a RDM for SDM or RDM mast already, so you just need to change the bottom one if needed)

morts
WA, 122 posts
Thursday , 17 Jan 2019 3:22PM
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Thanks Jesper

NR
WA, 486 posts
Today , 18 Jan 2019 7:41AM
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Simmer is finally getting some recognition in WA now. I see them everywhere. 15 years ago when I moved here, there were none. Its been a good push from passionate people.



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