Stuck mast

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bonza
bonza
NSW
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NSW, 14 posts
28 Jan 2005 7:08pm
I've got a 2 peice 30% carbon Kilwell mast that won't separate, I've tried putting WD40 down into the join also for the top and then roping the bottom to a pole and twisting with rope attached to the top half with a piece of soft cedar timber as a padding and a metal bar for leverage. It won't budge. I even tried heating the upper section of the join with a hand towel wrapped around it and pouring boiling water hoping it would expand enough to move. No luck.

Anyone got any tips on how to deal with this or an I stuck with it sticking out the window of the car?

Thanks

Glenn
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Tom
Tom
WA
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Tom Tom
WA, 7 posts
28 Jan 2005 5:33pm
There is an earlier post on this somewhere in the forum. The most effective technique I tried was:

(1) point the top of the mast against a wall (maybe against a block of wood to prevent damage)
(2) put your extension into the base
(3) put a piece of wood over the end of the extension and then whack the piece of wood with a hammer as hard as you can (eg like you're hammering the mast into the wall)

No idea why it works but its always sorted my mast out.

Cheers
Tom
bonza
bonza
NSW
14 posts
NSW, 14 posts
28 Jan 2005 9:39pm
Thanks Tom.
That's contrary to everything I would have thought, but at this stage it's better than no ideas, so I'm going to give it a go tomorrow, I'll let you know how it works out.

Glenn


Go hard or go home
silverback
silverback
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
28 Jan 2005 7:59pm
****! what's the matter with you guys - don't you know
you need a kombi for this one...........
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
29 Jan 2005 11:39am
Place the base piece of the stuck mast in a bench vice; make sure this is well padded and protected so that the vice doesn't crush the mast.
Then use 'vice-grips'(tool like multi-grips only better) and clamp this to the tip piece of the mast just above the spigot connection.
Again use padding for protection.
Now gently apply force to the vice-grips, back and forth, until there's some movement.
Good luck with it!
elmo
elmo
WA
8894 posts
WA, 8894 posts
29 Jan 2005 12:01pm
Bonz

I've found that by suporting either end of the mast and by bouncing it will eventually free it up (15-20 mins for a bad one)

If you set it up about a foot from the grond you can use your foot an not have to do any back work. for a more aerobic workout set it up about waist height.

Make sure you keep the joint wetted down. After bouncing away for a while you'll start getting a gap forming, resist temptation at this stage and do not use a screwdriver or like instrument to try and lever apart.

enjoy

Alby


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bonza
bonza
NSW
14 posts
NSW, 14 posts
29 Jan 2005 5:15pm
Guys thanks all for the tips. I first tried Toms method as I'd already tried effectively the same method as clamping and twisting. No luck with that.

I don't know if the thumping on the end had an influence, it may have. It did give me another idea as I noticed it cloes the gap totally and it opened up just a little when I bounced on it in frustration.

But here's the trick, I tried the bouncing trick with one little addition. Remember that rusty set of feeler gauges from when you last did the tappets on the car and didn't put them away ;-(, don't throw them out. I first bounced on the join section with the top sitting on a wooden fence about 8' high. That opened up just enough of a gap for me to start inserting feeler gauges. Bounce some more add two then three together and so on.

Took me about 20 minutes, it was really gentle on the mast and the sweat rinning down the crack of my ass wasn't quite as strong as Niagra falls. So the moral of the story is don't throw out those rusty feeler gauges ;-)

Glenn

Go hard or go home
Tozza
Tozza
WA
160 posts
WA, 160 posts
29 Jan 2005 2:22pm
Hey,
I got a stuck mast prob too ... mines an ezzy skinny, the prob is i cant get it together it goes on then about 1- 2 inches from all the way in it gets stuck. I checked out both ends doesnt look one bit damaged.

Ne tips? cheers.
kite-kid
kite-kid
WA
28 posts
WA, 28 posts
30 Jan 2005 10:25pm
buy a knew mast dude

go MAHOOSIVE or go home
Dr.Frontloop
Dr.Frontloop
WA
71 posts
WA, 71 posts
31 Jan 2005 12:33pm
This has always worked for me:
Simply put two booms on the mast. One on each half of the mast (very tight) close to the junction. Then try to turn the mast halfs against each other with the help of the levers (booms). Especially easy with skinnys because of the good rubber mast adaptors.
Dr. Fronti
Windpasser
Windpasser
WA
507 posts
WA, 507 posts
31 Jan 2005 1:08pm
I can't beleive no-one suggested the two boom method till Dr Frontloop rolled up. It is by sure the easiest, least damaging method.

I tried Bouncing, twisting, vices, heating, ropes, levers pulleys, all kinds of stuff.

Then one day with two booms Instantly off. Its just simple physics with the leverage, grip and rotational force available by using two booms.

No more sweaty arse cracks or pulverised sand for me.
Dr.Frontloop
Dr.Frontloop
WA
71 posts
WA, 71 posts
1 Feb 2005 2:50pm
No worries Windpasser,
I am a Dr. as my name suggests, not in medical science, but in electrical engineering, so I shoud be aware of the phsical laws. However, to be honest, it was not me who invented this.
Dr.F.
steveh
steveh
WA
113 posts
WA, 113 posts
2 Feb 2005 2:31pm
another way: stand the mast on its tip, and shake it for a while. Us

steve
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