The RS:X Class takes the ISAF decision to court

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Brett Morris
Brett Morris
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3 Aug 2012 3:58pm
Shame that it has come to this, but the proof is in the press release below.
How this happened in the first place is still a mystery, i.e Why did Spain vote for Kite's when they are about to win a gold medal in Windsurfing? Just one of many questions that need to be addressed.
Hopefully this doesn't get too ugly, but something tells me that the gloves are coming off....

http://www.rsxclass.com/download/PressRelease_JudicialReview.pdf
ggh
ggh
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ggh ggh
VIC, 190 posts
3 Aug 2012 4:50pm
Very thorough report worth the read.
terminal
terminal
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1421 posts
3 Aug 2012 4:33pm
If they had made some of those points at the appropriate time there might not have been a vote in favour of kitesurfing.

Those points aren't relevant to the legal case IMO.

The only issue is; did the ISAF follow its procedures correctly.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
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3 Aug 2012 8:25pm
terminal said...

If they had made some of those points at the appropriate time there might not have been a vote in favour of kitesurfing.




When the vote was taken the delegates were thinking about the pretty kitesurfer girl and wondering what they going to have for lunch.



windsufering
windsufering
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3 Aug 2012 11:47pm
would it be easy just to ask the bic techno kids what they want as they seem to be the feeder class for kite racing
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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3 Aug 2012 11:06pm
windsufering said...

would it be easy just to ask the bic techno kids what they want as they seem to be the feeder class for kite racing


Lots of techno class kids going to kiting is there???

da vecta
da vecta
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4 Aug 2012 11:25am
That's fantastic to read. I know that this point has been made in other threads but Windsurfing gives the sailing events some variety. The Finn and the Lasers are pretty similar in the respect that they are both single-handers. I'm not against Kites going in, just Windsurfing being removed.


INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
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4 Aug 2012 12:25pm
pretty sure thats not going to get Windsurfing back into the Olympics and it also puts a bad light on the current Olymics Sailing program.
windsufering
windsufering
VIC
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4 Aug 2012 2:42pm
what i am saying is the IKA have claimed the bic techno class as a feeder class for kiteboarding !
ikw777
ikw777
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4 Aug 2012 5:19pm
I sincerely hope this is the start of a solution for the RSX class. Did anyone else notice, however, the poor or non-existent punctuation and non-sentences in this document? I hope they sprung for the cost of a professional proof-reader for their submission to the high court. If I had turned in a document like this at work I would have been asked to do it again.
Phyx1u5
Phyx1u5
NSW
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5 Aug 2012 8:45am
hopefully the RSX class have a LOT of money to fight this, considering the people they will be taking to court...in particular their backers...
Gorgo
Gorgo
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5 Aug 2012 6:22pm
That briefing document is a waste of time. It looks like windsurfing stamping it's feet and screaming "It's not fair!!!!"

All it says is "Windsurfing is great!" with lots of examples. We already know that. That is irrelevant.

If they're going to court then they have to prove that ISAF did something wrong in their voting. Either not following procedure or corruption or doing something they don't have the power to. ie. They did something illegal.

The real solution for windsurfing is to lobby all the voting members of the ISAF and ensure they have sufficient votes to vote someone else out, it doesn't matter who.

Unfortunately that's how windsurfing got voted out in the first place. From my reading the "boat" classes all voted together. They didn't give a fluck what happened to windsurfing as long the boats stayed in.
JustinL
JustinL
NSW
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NSW, 468 posts
5 Aug 2012 6:31pm
The class assosiation would have next to nothing for something like this legal action, I assume Mr. Neil Pyrde is backing it. One billion per year turnover for the pyrde group.

whatever happens ISAF and Yachting Australia and others have lost alot of respect and I know people dont want to sail their classes or enter their events anymore.

YA may get sued yet!!
Windxtasy
Windxtasy
WA
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13 Aug 2012 10:26am
elmo said...

Neil Pryde's view of the olympics
http://boards.mpora.com/features/rsx-olympic-windsurfing-neil-prydes-view.html

Scarey numbers when you read about the cost of the equipment supplied for the olympics.


Some exceprts from the article above:

"With the law suit, they came to us to ask for funds and we refused. With a business in kitesurfing too, to be honest it made no sense for me to spend company money doing this. But as I said, from a very personal view I am definitely supporting windsurfing."

Legal Action

"The legal action is a judicial review of the procedure, it basically calls into question whether ISAF have followed all the necessary protocol and procedures in reaching this decision. This is what the judge in the court is going to be asked to determine, it's not to say that it's a good decision or a bad decision, it's whether the decision was taken correctly. I think the decision to take the judicial review was correct as at least the truth will come out. It's not costing the class anything, the lawyer is handling this on a no win, no fee basis which I think gives you some idea of how confident the lawyers are."

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