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xx404
xx404
WA
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WA, 6 posts
21 Nov 2005 11:50am
Can anyone recommend a good training DVD to buy? I'm having trouble with gybing and tacking and need something to help me along and it'd be nice to be able to watch an expert do it in slow motion. There seems to be very little tuition type stuff on the web as well - although the Guy Cribb site is excellent.

Thanks.
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
21 Nov 2005 12:16pm
Dr Beat Variety 0 Just look for the DVD with the fat arse on the front
laurie
laurie
QLD
3902 posts
QLD, 3902 posts
21 Nov 2005 3:12pm
For gybing, I don't reckon you can go past the old classic "Carve Clinic 2" by Peter Hart. Not sure if the shops still carry it, but the concepts haven't changed...

What's giving you grief with your gybes?
mikeAUS146
mikeAUS146
WA
111 posts
WA, 111 posts
21 Nov 2005 2:07pm
My mates got Jibing on Maui with Alan Cadiz, you can get it from Windsurfing Perth still i think. That was pretty good, goes through heaps of jibes step by step.
xx404
xx404
WA
6 posts
WA, 6 posts
21 Nov 2005 6:05pm
Thanks for the tips everyone, you've given me some great Google keywords! Do any of the local shops rent DVDs (I don't have a VCR)?

As to what I'm having trouble with, it's turning the board without falling off When gybing I get to the point where the board is heading down wind but I can't seem to swing it around so that it's on the other tack. I'm not really sure about where to put my feet etc...totally clueless.

With tacking I know what I'm supposed to do but just can't seem to pull it off.
Haircut 4000
Haircut 4000
QLD
340 posts
QLD, 340 posts
21 Nov 2005 11:21pm
Peter Heart's "Turning Point" did it for me. However, the sound of Peter Heart's voice tends to put you to sleep.

Now i find i fall asleep during a gybe or a waterstart..zzzzzzzzz
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
22 Nov 2005 12:15am
there's a new dvd out.
i can't remember its name but it covers uphauling to 'tellytubby spocks'
keep you posted.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
22 Nov 2005 12:17am
Originally posted by Haircut 4000

Peter Heart's "Turning Point" did it for me. However, the sound of Peter Heart's voice tends to put you to sleep.

Now i find i fall asleep during a gybe or a waterstart..zzzzzzzzz

think how peters wife feels!
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
22 Nov 2005 12:21am
Originally posted by xx404

Thanks for the tips everyone, you've given me some great Google keywords! Do any of the local shops rent DVDs (I don't have a VCR)?

As to what I'm having trouble with, it's turning the board without falling off When gybing I get to the point where the board is heading down wind but I can't seem to swing it around so that it's on the other tack. I'm not really sure about where to put my feet etc...totally clueless.

With tacking I know what I'm supposed to do but just can't seem to pull it off.


If you are going fast enough you can just carve the board through the turn. It sounds like you are slowing down too much. If you are gybing slowly you use the rig to turn the board by tipping the rig to the outside of the turn and sort of bend your bod to the inside a bit to counterbalance. In the slick version you switch your feet first sailing into the gybe switch footed. It should feel somewhat tippy and precarious but you will come about reliably. You can come about faster by moving your weight to the back to make more of a pivot out of it. Once you are steady on your new tack (clew first and quite broad), you can flip the rig and this alone will tend to push the board further around closer to the wind.

Tacks are pesky manouvres that take a lot of application - like most windsurfing manouvres. If you know what to do just do it lots of times and you'll get it eventually. That said here are a few tips (from a non expert mind you). Assuming you are on a freeridy board not a formula -
1) Carve up quickly into the wind. You should tip your sail back a bit but not much. The carve is achieved with the board not so much by rig steering. (unless you are going too slowly, then a helitack would be preferable - something else to learn)
2) As you approach head to wind you move forward on the board and importantly, move your weight over the board with a view to achieving a balanced position in front of the mast. You don't actually do that but your body movement should be aimed at that so you get a smooth transition.
3) You do that thing with you feet ie front foot wrapped around the mast foot the back foot stepping up. Its best to make a couple of small steps rather than one big one.
4) Trying to keep your weight centered, look at the mast or the back of the board and wobble the mast out of the way as you step round keeping your feet on the centreline. Be quick and smooth. Big jumps don't work. After stepping around you should still have one foot in front of the mast and the other next to the front footstraps.
5) Note - Holding the mast is easier than going boom to boom.
6) At this point most good sailors most of the time back wind the sail momentarily and immediately pull it forwards while they still have some forward momentum. Then push the nose off the wind as you pull the sail over to load it up and hang off the boom.
7) You can practice this on dry land - grass or sand. Take the fin off your board, rig your sail and repeat the step around the front bit for 5 min before going on the water.

As for DVDs I've heard that Dasher's 12 step jibing tute is excellent.
Alan Cadiz' Jibing on Maui is excellent too - not as detailed but lots of variety and demos. Don't know if its available on DVD. I personally find Peter Harts vids a bit too verbal but most people like 'em. Dont know about rentals.
Haircut 4000
Haircut 4000
QLD
340 posts
QLD, 340 posts
22 Nov 2005 12:32am
Originally posted by greenleader
think how peters wife feels!


pretty damn good looking from the videos [drool smiley][drool smiley]
bmanners
bmanners
WA
40 posts
WA, 40 posts
22 Nov 2005 9:31am
Dr Beats video covers alot of moves in small detail so not so good for learning.

Alan Cadiz' video is pretty good but I think it could be better.

I haven't seen Peter Harts gybing vids so cant comment on those.
Haircut 4000
Haircut 4000
QLD
340 posts
QLD, 340 posts
22 Nov 2005 5:49pm
I reckon Remko DeWierdo should release an entire training DVD. He does a good job on his Spinloop Special.
Combs
Combs
WA
152 posts
WA, 152 posts
22 Nov 2005 6:19pm
I am still trying to get those carve gybes, but as far as tacking is concerned I might be able to offer some advise. A few weeks ago, I was talking to a fellow windsurfer about my tacking woes. He told me that the secret to tacking, apart from effectively stepping around the mast very quickly and while still going at reasonable speed, was to get your hand right up to the mast on the boom as you come into the carve.

This made all the difference and after a bit of practice I can do it on my small board nearly every time (assuming there is some wind around).
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
22 Nov 2005 8:48pm
the new dvd is called "basic windsurfing"
seems to go for a couple of hours and covers a lot of ground using current equipment and techniques.
available at your local windsurf shop i guess.
hobie14t
hobie14t
QLD
259 posts
QLD, 259 posts
23 Nov 2005 2:04pm
Hi xx404,

Check out this web site, www.jemhall.com/technique.htm its alot better then the Guy Cribb site, actually has some videos on the site you can watch. Shows jibes and tacks etc, very good. Cant beat a dvd though!
Ive just managed to master jibes via the clew first technique, its really quite easy once you realise you dont have to do anything with the sail until are heading the oposite direction, then just flip it around!

PS what type of board are you trying to learn gybes on? I found it really difficult on a big board until I got a new freeride(wide) board, turns on nothing! which makes jibing so easy, I bet its even easier on a smaller board again!

Cheers


xx404
xx404
WA
6 posts
WA, 6 posts
23 Nov 2005 2:25pm
Thanks for the link - it's excellent! It looks like I'm going to be practising some clew first sailing this weekeend

I'm using a Bic Presto (282, 120L). It's old and I need to upgrade but I'm just going to have to suffer it out until I get some spare cash.
Haircut 4000
Haircut 4000
QLD
340 posts
QLD, 340 posts
23 Nov 2005 5:58pm
don't be too concerned about your gear

A wise windsurfer once said - cash may buy you extra speed, but it won't buy you technique, skill, or style!
hobie14t
hobie14t
QLD
259 posts
QLD, 259 posts
25 Nov 2005 11:58am
Hi xx404,

Ive got a mate learning on a Bic (not sure what) its 282 and 120L (probably same board, and he is having a hard time getting the hang of the same things you are describing. I have since given him an old Tyronsea 370 board, and he is now having a much better time as its way more stable and he doesnt have to struggle with balance.

I started on a long board and have now progressed to a short freeride board with out any troubles, I would suggest seeing how you go on an old big board? you can get them very cheap, $100 or less. Mind you jibing is a bit hard as they dont turn easily, but tacking is oh so easy on a long board.

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