US fin system

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NR
NR
WA
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NR NR
WA, 517 posts
15 Jan 2008 1:14pm
has anyone found that some fins need a tab/extra area of material that sticks out on the base pointing towards the bottom of the fin for them to sit nicely in the box ? Without them, in some fin boxes, if you continue to tighten the screw the front of the fin actually sinks into the fin box.

MFC for example has this tab and it sits nicely in the chinook fin box. other brand boxes don't always need this tab, and other fins fit perfectly in those. All called US fin boxes.

Anyway, if anyone has seen this, what do they do to a fin that hasn't got this extra tab on the bottom, but needs one.
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
2331 posts
WA, 2331 posts
15 Jan 2008 1:23pm
from my experience I would just put a shim in under the fin, probably a filed down piece of an old fin or something similar.
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
15 Jan 2008 1:51pm
the fins that come on the starboards has a recessed screw hole, which is pretty good, hides the top of the screw..
bubs
bubs
SA
924 posts
SA, 924 posts
15 Jan 2008 3:45pm
NR said...

has anyone found that some fins need a tab/extra area of material that sticks out on the base pointing towards the bottom of the fin for them to sit nicely in the box ? Without them, in some fin boxes, if you continue to tighten the screw the front of the fin actually sinks into the fin box.

MFC for example has this tab and it sits nicely in the chinook fin box. other brand boxes don't always need this tab, and other fins fit perfectly in those. All called US fin boxes.

Anyway, if anyone has seen this, what do they do to a fin that hasn't got this extra tab on the bottom, but needs one.


Yes same problem. Never really bothered me at all though. Does it make any difference. You can always sand or add more to fins aswell.

Bubs
555
555
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555 555
892 posts
15 Jan 2008 3:02pm
Yep - had to tweak a couple of fins by finding a suitably dimensioned piece of scrap plastic and dropping it into the finslot where the 'tab' would be. Building the fin head up with a bit of bog would be a more proper solution I guess, but the shim was easy and quick.

I also countersunk the screw head into the fin head while I was there, so it's all nice and flush. I ditched the piddly little imperial screw and girly little brass nut from my wave board at the same time, and replaced them with grunty (and shiny!) metric stainless ones.

Mmmm... stainless...
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
15 Jan 2008 3:53pm
555 said...

>>>>>>>

Mmmm... stainless...


YEP!!!!!! the leading edge insert in my weedy has really fixed my wear problems, now everybody else's fins develop serrated edges, mine just gets polished by our super abrasive weed.

Back to topic. I think there are 2 standard US boxes, the original developed for surfboards, and a deeper one for sailboards, most sailboards use the later, but you can still get fins that fit shallower boxes.
stribo
stribo
QLD
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QLD, 1628 posts
15 Jan 2008 5:52pm
555 said...

Yep - had to tweak a couple of fins by finding a suitably dimensioned piece of scrap plastic and dropping it into the finslot where the 'tab' would be. Building the fin head up with a bit of bog would be a more proper solution I guess, but the shim was easy and quick.

I also countersunk the screw head into the fin head while I was there, so it's all nice and flush. I ditched the piddly little imperial screw and girly little brass nut from my wave board at the same time, and replaced them with grunty (and shiny!) metric stainless ones.

Mmmm... stainless...


I think the brass plate is there to prevent you ripping the fin box out of your board when you hit the reef or something solid.Stainless, shinny and alluring as it is,has it's pittfalls.
NotWal
NotWal
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QLD, 7436 posts
15 Jan 2008 6:53pm
I think there are 2 standard US boxes, the original developed for surfboards, and a deeper one for sailboards, most sailboards use the later, but you can still get fins that fit shallower boxes.


As I understand it there is a US box and an almost identical Euro box. The E box is slightly deeper.
555
555
892 posts
555 555
892 posts
15 Jan 2008 7:37pm
stribo said...

I think the brass plate is there to prevent you ripping the fin box out of your board when you hit the reef or something solid.Stainless, shinny and alluring as it is,has it's pittfalls.



Ever met someone who's had a brass nut stripped on impact with a reef, and their board was fine? I'd have thought that the angles were all wrong for it to rip the screw through the nut, especially since the back of the fin is not solidly held in place, but relies on the screw at the front to locate it.

Actually, I misplaced the screw (It's in a safe place - I just can't remember where!) and couldn't get another one the same to replace it as it was some weird thread that my local engineering supply place couldn't do in stainless.. so I just upgraded the whole thing... to the manliest fastening that it would take (of course!)

Bender
Bender
WA
2236 posts
WA, 2236 posts
15 Jan 2008 7:59pm
I can verify that one.

Two week ago i was having a fun wave sail at avalon and i had to delay my bottom turn as a pesky kiter was in the way(instead of sailing out wide over the shoulder like one should) as i layed my rail over to bottom turn my fin hit the reef(24cm select weed wave with brass nut).

I felt a bump and though the worst. The bottom turn turned int a gybe.

As i was able to get on the plane and in the straps i thought all was good.

On getting out the back i flipped the board over and the fin was rocked back only being held in with the pin on the back edge. The bolt and brass plate were gone. there was no damage (to fin or board) and i was able to sail in with no real problems.
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