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ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
1746 posts
VIC, 1746 posts
7 Sep 2008 7:22pm
I've got to get a windsurfing vehicle and I'm recently arrived. In the UK, a T4 or T5 seems to be what people get but here there aren't many about.

I've looked at Toyota Hiaces but I'm a little scared about what will happen if someone crashes into me - the crumple zone seems to consist of the bones in my legs...

Any ideas?
qwerty
qwerty
NSW
807 posts
NSW, 807 posts
7 Sep 2008 7:41pm
Thats pretty much the case with any van. If you have a head on crash, you're f***ed.
Toyota Hiaces are actually the more expensive end of the van market here (until you venture into the VW and Mercedes variety).
I had a Ford Econovan for 7 years up until a few months ago. Was a brilliant van. Could fit all the gear, and sleep in it too.

If its purely for windsurfing, then you can't beat a van.
But don't pick a vehicle based on how it might go in a crash. Otherwise you may as well buy a tank. Chances are you'll never crash, and someone will never crash into you.

Just pick a van that is in good condition, and will fit your gear.
Upthere
Upthere
QLD
348 posts
QLD, 348 posts
7 Sep 2008 7:46pm
Ford Transit for sure, the are great vans for windsurfing. You put everything in them, have a bed up top and your gear down the bottom.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
7 Sep 2008 7:46pm
i think general consensus is that hiace is about the most reliable of the poverty market models (non volswagon, mercedes etc), quite popular

sorry, bit late posting
landyacht
landyacht
WA
5921 posts
WA, 5921 posts
7 Sep 2008 6:14pm
We had a hiace with a sodding big bullbar on the front plus the spare wheel. One day a Sigma was kind enough to pull out in front and act as a crumple zone.
not a scratch on the van ,minor issue on the bull bar
sailpilot
sailpilot
QLD
787 posts
QLD, 787 posts
7 Sep 2008 10:08pm
Ginger, if you do a search of this forum for vans you'll find oodles of info and ideas, and of course opinions on what the best. Good Luck and enjoy your sailing here.
GazMan
GazMan
WA
848 posts
WA, 848 posts
8 Sep 2008 12:13am
If you're looking for a van with a nose/bonnet/engine at front (much larger crumple zone than 'forward control' vans) try:

Mitsubishi WA Express walk-thru
http://www.drive.com.au/used-cars/MITSUBISHI/EXPRESS/Melbourne/detail.aspx?id=8632629&lid=8632629&pg=1&pp=13&d=0&nv=1&SG=123905152&pt=1

I've got one like this, drives like a car and there are quite a few around (first came out in 1995 and discontinued in 2005). Parts are reasonably easy to get either new or used, though new parts can sometimes be expensive through dealers.

Hiace SBV (SBV an acronym for 'semi-bonnet van')
Have driven one and is more like driving a 'delivery van' than the WA Express walk-thru. Considered pretty reliable though probably not as many on the road as WA Express so parts may be harder to come by.

Volkswagon Transporter T4/T5
Not sure whether they're called VW Transporters in UK though there are many around oz. Almost brought one before getting the WA Express, got cold feet when told how much it would cost to fix a faulty auto trans and managed to escape from the deal with my deposit! I've heard that parts are much more expensive than parts for Toyota, Mitsubishi or Ford vans. Suggest you do some research before you buy one in oz!

Go to:
www.redbook.com.au/used-cars/results.aspx?N=0+4294939368+4294966879&Ns=p_Make_String|0||p_ClassificationType_String|0||p_Family_String|0||p_Year_String|1||p_SequenceNum_Int32|0&TabId=1407342

Ford Transit
Owned a highly modified 69 Ford Transit 6cyl for 15 years! Great purpose built windsurfing vehicle running on LPG. Later models are very common though I think they're somewhat boring, too much like driving a delivery van!

Check out oz used car values for the above vans at: www.redbook.com.au/

Suggest you search for used vans listed in Melbourne Trading Post and at: www.carsales.com.au/
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
8 Sep 2008 9:23am
A lot of windsurfers in WA get Mitsubishi Delicas. These are a grey import (not released in Australia).

They are 4WD (based on pajero running gear I think), heaps of room inside, 2.8 turbo diesel.

Thought I'd add it to the list
GazMan
GazMan
WA
848 posts
WA, 848 posts
8 Sep 2008 9:36am
Yeah, forgot to mention Delicas as well as Mercedes Benz Vitos as I have no real experience with either, there are some other vans of this style (bonnet van with engine in front) that would probably work great as a reliable windsurfing vehicle.

The Mitsubishi Delicas have basically the same van body as the Mitsubishi Starwagon and WA Express walk-thru and some parts are interchangeable, though they do have different engines and transmissions (possibly Pajero sourced?).

Check out Delica club website:
http://www.delicaclub.com/portal.php?sid=84d0d502b66f5d76854a7277d0e7dd7c
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
8 Sep 2008 12:27pm
I have a Delica too and its quite good. No problems so far however I would hate to have major mechanical problems with it. I had to recharge the battery and it was a very tight fit getting it in and out. The engine bay is very crowded.

If you get one, try to get a LWB version. The SWB version is not quite long enough for boards over 2.4m in length. They have to fit sideways between the two front seats. Despite this there would not be many vehicles which allow you to have two or three boards and the rest of the junk you need and still be able to carry two passengers.

Try to get one with captain chairs, sunroof and skylights, they are great. I imagine they would be reasonably safe in an accident. They have an airbag and if you hit anything else the other car would probably go underneath the cabin and engine bay, a benefit of having a commanding driving position.




Ian K
Ian K
WA
4170 posts
WA, 4170 posts
8 Sep 2008 11:07am
Mobydisc said...

I if you hit anything else the other car would probably go underneath the cabin and engine bay, a benefit of having a commanding driving position.








A good reason not to get one unless you live in the bush.
pepe47
pepe47
WA
1382 posts
WA, 1382 posts
8 Sep 2008 11:26am
nebbian said...

A lot of windsurfers in WA get Mitsubishi Delicas. These are a grey import (not released in Australia).

They are 4WD (based on pajero running gear I think), heaps of room inside, 2.8 turbo diesel.

Thought I'd add it to the list


From a completely unbiased standpoint
GazMan
GazMan
WA
848 posts
WA, 848 posts
8 Sep 2008 11:33am
Hey ginger pom,

Another thing to consider, if you're planning to do some medium-long distance travelling whilst in oz then get either a van running on 'duel-fuel' (petrol with LPG conversion) or a very economical diesel van as the price of fuel in some parts of oz (particularly northern WA) is around $1.80 per litre and may go higher (was around $2 a litre a few months ago).

For example, my WA Express van on petrol (2.4 auto) is relatively thirsty costing around $150 to do 800 km (around 12 litres per/100km). I've heard that the 5 speed diesel Transits are very economical getting around 8L/100km on the highway (35mpg in 'old' language), and the guy I talked to said he was towing a trailer as well! Haven't heard much about fuel economy figures for other diesel vans, also diesel fuel prices per litre are considerably more than petrol in some places.

Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
WA, 708 posts
8 Sep 2008 7:29pm
The new Hyundai iLoad looks pretty good IMO, as far as vans go. Good price and tons of torque too from the deisel.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
8 Sep 2008 10:31pm
Ian K said...

Mobydisc said...

I if you hit anything else the other car would probably go underneath the cabin and engine bay, a benefit of having a commanding driving position.








A good reason not to get one unless you live in the bush.



Yeah maybe but I wanted a 4WD van and the Delicas are cheap and cheeful.

There is talk on the Delica site about LPG injection into its diesel motor. Apparently it gives better combustion leading to improved economy plus a cleaner running motor, leading to fewer oil changes.

The commanding driving position is a real plus in city traffic. Over in Perth I was driving a hire car Lancer and it was so different not being able to see over the top of everyone else.




ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
1746 posts
VIC, 1746 posts
8 Sep 2008 11:22pm
That's great guys. Thank you.

I'll do a trawl through the back postings. I bought a guide called "Dogs and Lemons" and it put the wind up me about safety.

I'm definitely going dual fuel.

If I get one, I'll post the pictures of how I fitted it out.

I thought sbv was something to do with wheel bases - it all makes sense now!!
Flux
Flux
WA
533 posts
WA, 533 posts
9 Sep 2008 3:22am
Go the Delicas!!!
Or you could hang up yer sails and start kiting then u'd only need a Honda CB90
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