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Squidlips
Squidlips
15 posts
15 posts
28 Nov 2008 7:49pm
Gday!

I'm after a bit of advice about board volume as I want to progress quickly and not be stuck with a log of a board, so any advice would be welcome as Im stuck as what to go for!

I can uphaul and get going with ease. I can get on the plane and blast confidently, and stay dry on about 50% of my tacks and gybes. Thing is I weigh in at a solid 90 kilos so Im guessing that a board with volume of 200 litres would be the go.

Im really tempted to cut the volume a bit tho and go for say a 160 litre BIC techno, but Im afraid that I'll sink like a brick when uphauling and do an impression of a german uboat when getting underway.

seeing Im not a total novice could a lower volume board be the go? or am i just kidding myself?

Many Thanks

Squidlips
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
28 Nov 2008 10:09pm
Where do you live and what sort of sailing do you aspire to? You could probably go down to about 130 litres and still be able to uphaul without too much of a sinking feeling. There is a basic rule of body weight plus 30 litres or something like that but someone will be able to define it.

Interesting avatar!
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
28 Nov 2008 8:34pm
Agree with Moby, depends what winds you sail in.

And what size board you have at the moment.
Will that do as your low wind board? Or are you thinking of replacing it?

If your keeping your current board for light winds, then you can go smaller with your new board, than you would if it's going to be your only board.

If you were here, (15kt to 25kt), I'd say go for something between 110 to 130 and learn to waterstart.
The 110 should be uphaulable but you may sink a bit in the process.
If you don't go out in anything much over 15kt to 18kt, then the 160 litre may be more appropriate.

If you weigh yourself holding board and rig, that weight in kilograms, is the volume in liters needed to just float you, with the whole board just submerged, If it's a wide style board, that should have enough stability to be uphaulable in calm water, but could be tricky in swell or chop, another 10 litres on top of that should make it a bit easier.
Think this is where the Moby's formula comes from, board and rig are probably about 15Kg-20Kg.
Once you can watersart you should be able to use a 90 to 110 litre board if it's over 18kt
timford
timford
NSW
510 posts
NSW, 510 posts
29 Nov 2008 1:04am
I'm 87 kgs can up haul a 7.4 with ease on my 118 l JP supersport.
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
29 Nov 2008 12:15am
louder the better... I said

the LOUDER the BETTER

hardpole
hardpole
WA
609 posts
WA, 609 posts
28 Nov 2008 11:37pm
NotWal said...

louder the better... I said

the LOUDER the BETTER




Took me a while - it must be the beer
hardpole
hardpole
WA
609 posts
WA, 609 posts
28 Nov 2008 11:38pm
If you have the time and the wind then

90 kg = 90 litres
RumChaser
RumChaser
TAS
633 posts
TAS, 633 posts
29 Nov 2008 2:42pm
Hey Squidlips, my advice would be to concentrate on the water starts. Once you can do this you won't be so worried about the uphauling and then you can ride on just about anything if you have enough wind.
Harrow
Harrow
NSW
4521 posts
NSW, 4521 posts
29 Nov 2008 2:45pm
Stay dry on 50% of gybes? Squidlips, you are way past being a novice. I ride a 78 litre, and am happy to make 50% of my gybes.

I would say this...plan to own at least 2 boards. Think of your first board as your "light wind" board. I think weight plus 40 is a good guide. (So, 130 litres) Then down the track, when you can waterstart, you then buy your "big wind" board, which will be somewhere around the sub 100 litre mark.

I started with a 105 litre, then bought the 78 later. I am 65kg.
Squidlips
Squidlips
15 posts
15 posts
30 Nov 2008 6:49am
Thanks guys for all the advice

I am going for the 160 now, I get it next wkend. Cant wait !!
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
30 Nov 2008 10:02am
Harrow said...

I think weight plus 40 is a good guide.

I'm 14 stones.
sailpilot
sailpilot
QLD
787 posts
QLD, 787 posts
30 Nov 2008 11:56pm
Gday Squiddy, if your the squidlips fom Mackay send me PM and I'll lend you a techno 152 ltr to try out first.
Phil
Leman
Leman
VIC
672 posts
VIC, 672 posts
3 Dec 2008 6:16pm
Squidlips said...

Gday!

I can uphaul and get going with ease. I can get on the plane and blast confidently, and stay dry on about 50% of my tacks and gybes. Thing is I weigh in at a solid 90 kilos so Im guessing that a board with volume of 200 litres would be the go.

Many Thanks

Squidlips


Yeah like someone else said, you're doing well if you can gybe and stay dry on 50% (assuming they are planing gybes). One of the first skills I ever learn was waterstarting about 13 years before a 10 year break and only learnt planing gybes in the last 2 years.

I'm 95kg and until recently had a 131 carve (just broke it). This is an excellent volume for you because it is comfortable to uphaul and is so much closer than your 200litre board to the feel of a short board. Like other said you will be able to uphaul maybe around 110 but it's is certainly not easy. Even on a 130 you will soon learn you can't put too much weight on the front foot during an uphaul or you sink the nose. A board around 130 will likely have a bigger fin too which will make learning the waterstart easier as the board will be less likely to turn upwind on you during take off. Until you learn to deal with it, small fin boards will drift sideways a lot during a waterstart until you get some forward motion into the fin.

In the end I think anything between 120-150 litres will feel extremely responsive and exciting to you after sailing a 200litre.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
3 Dec 2008 7:06pm
13 decilitres.

edit: ... hang on, I think that's wrong. Backfired.
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
3 Dec 2008 7:05pm
evlPanda said...

13 decilitres.

edit: ... hang on, I think that's wrong. Backfired.



Perhaps you meant to say 0.13 cubic metres, or 8791 table spoons
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
WA, 708 posts
6 Dec 2008 8:47pm
sailpilot said...

Gday Squiddy, if your the squidlips fom Mackay send me PM and I'll lend you a techno 152 ltr to try out first.
Phil


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