What's the best thing to remove rust stains from footpads?

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sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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15 Mar 2024 10:08am
I've moved my footstraps forward a hole and there's rust stains left from the previous position.
What's the best way to clean it up ?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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15 Mar 2024 9:55am
CLR

Then any remainder with a little sandpapering if you're fussy
ptsf1111
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15 Mar 2024 10:06am
If the screws are as rusty as the stains indicate, you might be better off using new ones. I replaced foot straps recently and reused the old screws with a corroded head and one snapped when tightening. I was glad it didn't snap on the water but was a pain to get the screw out without the head.
AUS4
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15 Mar 2024 3:22pm
Gumption
AUS4
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Gumption
Tardy
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15 Mar 2024 4:11pm
seem its crazy Friday ,I'd be getting the grinder on that
sboardcrazy
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15 Mar 2024 5:34pm
Mark _australia said..
CLR

Then any remainder with a little sandpapering if you're fussy


Thanks. I used some CLR and it helped. I wasn't sure if it would dissolve anything so I was pretty cautious.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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15 Mar 2024 5:35pm
ptsf1111 said..
If the screws are as rusty as the stains indicate, you might be better off using new ones. I replaced foot straps recently and reused the old screws with a corroded head and one snapped when tightening. I was glad it didn't snap on the water but was a pain to get the screw out without the head.


Might have to check.
sboardcrazy
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15 Mar 2024 5:37pm
AUS4 said..
Gumption


OK. Thanks. A few options..
remery
remery
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15 Mar 2024 2:48pm
Ranex, but I would wash it off quickly and thoroughly.
Awalkspoiled
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15 Mar 2024 8:45pm
Mr Clean Magic Eraser. Get it a little damp, then rub gently. Also great for cleaning up the white rubber on athletic shoes.
MarkSSC
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16 Mar 2024 6:46am
sboardcrazy said..

Mark _australia said..
CLR

Then any remainder with a little sandpapering if you're fussy



Thanks. I used some CLR and it helped. I wasn't sure if it would dissolve anything so I was pretty cautious.


I believe that CLR is mostly just phosphoric acid. They used to put it in Coca Cola.
mikey100
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16 Mar 2024 7:57am
Sounds like a good excuse to buy a new board.
Mr Milk
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16 Mar 2024 12:16pm
Why is there such crap quality control on footstrap screws? I don't think I have ever owned a board which has had all of them made from non rusting steel. Usually just one or two stain the footpads.
sboardcrazy
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16 Mar 2024 4:12pm
MarkSSC said..

sboardcrazy said..


Mark _australia said..
CLR

Then any remainder with a little sandpapering if you're fussy




Thanks. I used some CLR and it helped. I wasn't sure if it would dissolve anything so I was pretty cautious.



I believe that CLR is mostly just phosphoric acid. They used to put it in Coca Cola.


So they don't now? I remember my grandmother used to clean the table tops with Coke.
sboardcrazy
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16 Mar 2024 4:14pm
mikey100 said..
Sounds like a good excuse to buy a new board.


They don't make them anymore.. The boards all good. I just replaced the tail plate adjuster screw with a new on and it's as good as new.
Shifu
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16 Mar 2024 9:04pm
sboardcrazy said..
I've moved my footstraps forward a hole and there's rust stains left from the previous position.
What's the best way to clean it up ?



Continuous, unrelenting, hardcore sailing will wear it off.
ptsf1111
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16 Mar 2024 7:39pm
Mr Milk said..
Why is there such crap quality control on footstrap screws? I don't think I have ever owned a board which has had all of them made from non rusting steel. Usually just one or two stain the footpads.



It's not the QC to blame. The screws are not 100% stainless steel as that probably doesn't exist or won't be strong enough. It'll always corrode when exposed to salt water and oxygen after some time so it's a matter of replacing them after a few years depending on the climate you live in.
Mr Milk
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17 Mar 2024 3:11pm
I just cleaned the same amount of staining by going back to chemistry basics. All acetates are soluble, so a squirt of vinegar over the area, soak a few minutes, scrub with a toothbrush, rinse, repeat and it's not quite as good as new, but the obvious stain has disappeared


sboardcrazy
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17 Mar 2024 3:13pm
Mr Milk said..
I just cleaned the same amount of staining by going back to chemistry basics. All acetates are soluble, so a squirt of vinegar over the area, soak a few minutes, scrub with a toothbrush, rinse, repeat and it's not quite as good as new, but the obvious stain has disappeared



A nice easy solution.
sboardcrazy
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17 Mar 2024 3:13pm
If I wanted to get new foot strap screws are they all the same , and what size do I get?
decrepit
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17 Mar 2024 12:21pm
Sue there is a variety of diffent sizes and threads. best to take the old screw with you, and make sure the replacement is high quality stainless
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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17 Mar 2024 4:08pm
You won't be able to buy it at a fixings place as they don't sell PT screws for plastic. Trust me I've tried everywhere. You will have to buy at a WS shop.
Measure - should be M6 x 27 or 28..... and if so its standard Cobra style stuff - like www.surfsailaustralia.com.au/product/goya-footstrap-stainless-self-tapper-28mm


Be very careful as Starboard and Fanatic inexplicably made a M7 screw (longer too) that will bugger up every other board.

sboardcrazy
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18 Mar 2024 9:53am
Shifu said..

sboardcrazy said..
I've moved my footstraps forward a hole and there's rust stains left from the previous position.
What's the best way to clean it up ?




Continuous, unrelenting, hardcore sailing will wear it off.


Can you provide some wind please? Just coming back to the real world after a trip to Lake George..
sboardcrazy
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18 Mar 2024 9:54am
Mark _australia said..
You won't be able to buy it at a fixings place as they don't sell PT screws for plastic. Trust me I've tried everywhere. You will have to buy at a WS shop.
Measure - should be M6 x 27 or 28..... and if so its standard Cobra style stuff - like www.surfsailaustralia.com.au/product/goya-footstrap-stainless-self-tapper-28mm


Be very careful as Starboard and Fanatic inexplicably made a M7 screw (longer too) that will bugger up every other board.



Thanks. So the number is the length?
Gestalt
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18 Mar 2024 10:18am
This is why I prefer plastic plugs. I've had plugs with metal rust and split then leak on some older boards.
Gestalt
Gestalt
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18 Mar 2024 10:18am
This is why I prefer plastic plugs. I've had plugs with metal rust and split then leak on some older boards.
MarkSSC
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18 Mar 2024 5:58pm
Gestalt said..
This is why I prefer plastic plugs. I've had plugs with metal rust and split then leak on some older boards.


Doesn't plastic have its own life as well? I am surprised that high quality stainless steel fixtures are not available. They are speciality items so a specialist engineering shop or similar would be the place to start. Cheap stainless items lack the alloys to make them corrosion resistant, what we pay for is what we get.
MarkSSC
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18 Mar 2024 5:58pm
Gestalt said..
This is why I prefer plastic plugs. I've had plugs with metal rust and split then leak on some older boards.


Doesn't plastic have its own life as well? I am surprised that high quality stainless steel fixtures are not available. They are speciality items so a specialist engineering shop or similar would be the place to start. Cheap stainless items lack the alloys to make them corrosion resistant, what we pay for is what we get.
Gestalt
Gestalt
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18 Mar 2024 8:31pm
Yes but you can just put in a bigger gauge screw if needed.

stainless is not great. Even the higher grade stuff. Stainless used in coastal environments requires a very regular maintenance scheme to avoid rusting. Brass and bronze are the best in extreme environments. Just a pity it's so soft. We use stainless because it's strong and is better than normal steel.

the real issue though is stainless screws into brass insert. dissimilar metals in salt water are not great. When all is said and done stainless screws into plastic is really the best option. Or regular maintenance.

not sure what happened with the wind tech. Could be cheap stainless, could be galvanic corrosion, could even be leaving board in a board bag wet.

ranex is great stuff. I've cleaned old boards and restored an old drum kit with it. It removes finger prints tho.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
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19 Mar 2024 7:11am
It's never been left wet in a boardbag except for driving home after a sail.
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