nice one nebbian, that means we can hire taragos....which are cheaper... only $60-70. looked into the minibus because the tarago doesn't normally come with toe balls.
edit, i will lookinto another option as well, bribie to caloundra and back wtice is actually a long way by car, not so far by water...
i will see if a 4wd truck can be hired to take us straight up the beach and then follow us back down...
$150 for an eleven person 4wd troop carrier...

there is plenty of time for discussion and organising... a couple of months off so time to think it through...