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Created by nerdycross 23 days ago, 25 Dec 2019
nerdycross
193 posts
25 Dec 2019 10:15PM
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Any advice on the best freestyle wave board for blasting and bump and jump around 100 ltr ish try fin or single fin am looking for good top end any advice be appreciated.

LeeD
950 posts
25 Dec 2019 10:48PM
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I have 5 FSW boards around 85 liters and fastest is the old 2001 Naish Freeride. For me, faster than my '07 JP Pro Slalom.
My fastest 100 liter board is the '16 Tabou Speedster, which is smooth in chop and turns really smoothly.
For most sailors, FSW is for medium high wind with high windswell and small waves.
If you are a big guy, the old Naish 99 Freeide in blue would fit the bill.

nerdycross
193 posts
26 Dec 2019 2:26AM
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Hi LeeD I'm 80 ish kilo and will want to use in small wave but don't want wave board and on flatter sea state want go blasting. My sail range for the board will be 5 and 6 mtr I was looking at kode 103 and 3s classic but will take look at your recommendations tho.

foolonhill
5 posts
26 Dec 2019 7:25AM
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For me the fastest FSW is not a real FSW but a bump and jump board. Amongst the boards I tried I would say Tabous 3S, classic (single), Patrik FSW, Exocet Cross and of course the Severne Fox. If you want to keep the surf ability of a trifin I'd say the Simmer Helix, Goya one and JP FSW are rather fast

azymuth
WA, 923 posts
26 Dec 2019 7:31AM
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I doubt you'll find a FSW faster than an older Kode - my 94L 2012 (?) did 37 knots a few times in big mid-river chop (with a slalom fin).

Al Planet
TAS, 1453 posts
26 Dec 2019 11:10AM
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The fox 95 is my current favourite as it jumps really well and is very fast. I had one of those older single fin kode94s and that was pretty fast too.

snorkel692
QLD, 285 posts
26 Dec 2019 10:33AM
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Al Planet said..
The fox 95 is my current favourite as it jumps really well and is very fast. I had one of those older single fin kode94s and that was pretty fast too.


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snorkel692
QLD, 285 posts
26 Dec 2019 12:46PM
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For a more freestyle- wavey board that can be set up for blasting I can recommend the Dyno too. I use my Fox for free ride and jumping with slalom capability, but for something better for chucking around as well as jumping and blasting the Dyno is super fun. The Patrik f cross is well worth a thought too

Mark _australia
WA, 19650 posts
26 Dec 2019 4:14PM
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Recommending freeride boards when he asked for fastest FSW ??

Nerdycross, does it have to be FSW? If so I say 3S, I've had mine very nearly keep up with a slalom board.


Rob11
222 posts
26 Dec 2019 4:19PM
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Exocet Cross, super quick and comfy. Not sure they're still in the range?

nerdycross
193 posts
26 Dec 2019 5:40PM
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Mark _australia said..
Recommending freeride boards when he asked for fastest FSW ??

Nerdycross, does it have to be FSW? If so I say 3S, I've had mine very nearly keep up with a slalom board.




Mark,
it doesn't have to be FSW but I do want the option to sail in small wave in different locations and blasting on flat water . After reading more on the tabou 3s it appears tabou have reincarnated the classic to 3s mabe to help speed I've been offered a RRD FSW 106 v3 locally and seller told me it's very fast for blasting with good fin fitted.

Mark _australia
WA, 19650 posts
26 Dec 2019 5:48PM
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Hmmm RRD in that age was more wavey than say the JP or 3S. Read the mag reviews.
(NOT saying its a waveboard BTW)

On another note and just to confuse the issue more I'd be careful as many freeride are slalom construction, and some FSW built a bit closer to wave construction. How much will you jump it......?

Richiefish
QLD, 5513 posts
26 Dec 2019 8:13PM
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Love my Fanatic Freewave 95 L. (older model textreme)


nerdycross
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26 Dec 2019 6:13PM
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Mark _australia said..
Hmmm RRD in that age was more wavey than say the JP or 3S. Read the mag reviews.
(NOT saying its a waveboard BTW)

On another note and just to confuse the issue more I'd be careful as many freeride are slalom construction, and some FSW built a bit closer to wave construction. How much will you jump it......?


I only do small jumps mostly chop hops the day's of big jump,s thing of the past now but still blasting and bump and jump tho . So you thinking RRD FSW near to wave than FSW .mabe I'm expecting to much for a do it all FSW.

Faff
VIC, 718 posts
26 Dec 2019 10:13PM
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JP FSW.

PhilUK
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26 Dec 2019 9:17PM
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Rob11 said..
Exocet Cross, super quick and comfy. Not sure they're still in the range?



They are still here and updated for 2020 with version 5. A bit shorter (without giving in a funny 'stubby' look) and a bit narrower behind the rear straps. They still have the dual density foot pads for comfort. www.exocet-original.com/cross-carbon-c2x30604972?fbclid=IwAR3AOR0GJDpTtZqAIit3z0dH87yinvDsB9l4AMmEV-bOamj_gqcWHL5bpag

If I was looking for a 5m - 6m board like nerdycross I'd be looking at a 94l one. I use my 94l V4 with 4.5m - 6.5m, sweet spot sails are 5.2 & 6m for blasting around on. They have a longer planing flat than more wavier FSW boards, without tail kick for early planing and speed. I do have a smaller FSW for when there are actually rideable waves though.






forceten
875 posts
26 Dec 2019 11:55PM
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nerdycross said..
Any advice on the best freestyle wave board for blasting and bump and jump around 100 ltr ish try fin or single fin am looking for good top end any advice be appreciated.


I don't have any need for speed.
a FSW that's more Freeride oriented, but then that's what the question poses .
i never felt my 3S were fast, newer could be
the Exocets mentioned
my pick would be a Naish Starship.
If pockets were deep enough a custom.

LeeD
950 posts
27 Dec 2019 9:49PM
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Slalom board mid to tail rocker.
Bump rails.
Add a bit of nose kick.
Make it 13 lbs.
Narrow it for medium winds.
Narrow the tail behind the fin.
Keep V throughout.
Fast FSW.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 6853 posts
28 Dec 2019 9:40AM
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PhilUK said..

Rob11 said..
Exocet Cross, super quick and comfy. Not sure they're still in the range?




They are still here and updated for 2020 with version 5. A bit shorter (without giving in a funny 'stubby' look) and a bit narrower behind the rear straps. They still have the dual density foot pads for comfort. www.exocet-original.com/cross-carbon-c2x30604972?fbclid=IwAR3AOR0GJDpTtZqAIit3z0dH87yinvDsB9l4AMmEV-bOamj_gqcWHL5bpag

If I was looking for a 5m - 6m board like nerdycross I'd be looking at a 94l one. I use my 94l V4 with 4.5m - 6.5m, sweet spot sails are 5.2 & 6m for blasting around on. They have a longer planing flat than more wavier FSW boards, without tail kick for early planing and speed. I do have a smaller FSW for when there are actually rideable waves though.








I almost got the 84ltre version of this..

Vince68
WA, 655 posts
28 Dec 2019 8:14AM
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I have a 2012 RRD 96L FSW and with my 72kg ballast i feel this thing flies. i have chased down a few bigger outfits but also have been chased down. Fast enough for me. Super comfy, eats the chop and takes to the air with easy and easy the fin up or down to suit the conditions from flat water to some wave fun.

Tardy
3284 posts
29 Dec 2019 7:56AM
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95 or 105 tabou rocket, pretty fast nice in chop , even had my 105 out at Lancelin in the waves , it jumps well ,

RichardG
WA, 2979 posts
30 Dec 2019 9:39AM
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Rob11 said..
Exocet Cross, super quick and comfy. Not sure they're still in the range?





They are still here and updated for 2020 with version 5. A bit shorter (without giving in a funny 'stubby' look) and a bit narrower behind the rear straps. They still have the dual density foot pads for comfort. www.exocet-original.com/cross-carbon-c2x30604972?fbclid=IwAR3AOR0GJDpTtZqAIit3z0dH87yinvDsB9l4AMmEV-bOamj_gqcWHL5bpag

If I was looking for a 5m - 6m board like nerdycross I'd be looking at a 94l one. I use my 94l V4 with 4.5m - 6.5m, sweet spot sails are 5.2 & 6m for blasting around on. They have a longer planing flat than more wavier FSW boards, without tail kick for early planing and speed. I do have a smaller FSW for when there are actually rideable waves though.









What is the difference between the Exocet Cross Carbon and Cross Silver ? I had a 2012 Cross IV in STD construction which was a really great board. The Silver looks very close in weight to the Carbon but same shape, different construction. Not very well explained on the website.

PhilUK
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30 Dec 2019 6:29PM
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What is the difference between the Exocet Cross Carbon and Cross Silver ? I had a 2012 Cross IV in STD construction which was a really great board. The Silver looks very close in weight to the Carbon but same shape, different construction. Not very well explained on the website.




The current 2020 website is useless. It looks like they have copied the Carbon version specs in the Silver page. Also, the diagram showing the construction and the archive has gone. It looks like they have the same weight for both on the 2019 specs as well, but called the Silver a Silver and not a Carbon. There is no way a glass version would be the same weight as a carbon one. Edit. Actually, cancel that, I think I was comparing 2019 to 2020 versions.
When the archive was on the website I downloaded a copy of some of the years as a PDF. Was your 2012 std version a white decked one? From the specs, if they are to be believed, that was a bit heavier than the more recent Silver version. The 2012 details just list it as single shot glass, no diagram.
My guess would be that they have kept the same construction as 2017, I took a copy then. There is a believable different of 0.5kg on the 94l. There is a contact form on the current website, try asking them and see what they come back with. Hopefully the screenshots appear here.

In 2018 I wanted to replace my 2005 V1 Cross and a shop across the Channel in France had a slightly used Cross 94 Carbon for the same price as a new Cross Silver (they were discounted at the end of the year). I bought the used Carbon and dont regret it. I've also got a 2008 Cross 106, the same construction as the 2005 I think. That version is mainly glass with some carbon patches as enforcement. The all carbon version is definitely lighter and nicer to sail. The DDSA footpads dampen out any harshness of the stiffer carbon hull. If I were to buy a new 104/114 I'd go Carbon and the 94l a toss-up, but more likely the carbon. I dont do much jumping, just blasting around.

Some manufacturers like Patrik for instance, do a good job on their websites, loads of information and this year a decent video. In 2015 I nearly bought a RRD Firestorm LTD after a demo ride, but there was no construction info on the website. The shop rang the UK importer and he just replied 'I dont know but it weighs about what I would expect'. I didnt buy one. Few shops carry much stock so website's information is important to sell stuff.










Manuel7
316 posts
30 Dec 2019 8:09PM
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What's your weight? Starboard's if you're heavy, JP is amazing even on waves, Tabou great all around.

forceten
875 posts
31 Dec 2019 12:42AM
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OP, is the title here the actual question, Fastest ?

nerdycross
193 posts
31 Dec 2019 2:44AM
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forceten said..
OP, is the title here the actual question, Fastest ?


Yes the question is which is fastest,
To expand on that, if you can sail in small and limited wave also bump and jump but with the focus on blasting on flat water with a suitable dagger fin.
I used the title FSW but gess the term is flexible in terms to ask a board shape to cover all aspects of wave, b&j and blasting is a tall ask but gess will be a compromise. there are some good recommendations posted .

mr love
VIC, 1865 posts
31 Dec 2019 10:32AM
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My observation from lining up against the locals on various boards. The current JP FSW is fast.......Severne Dyno appears quite fast. Then if you want to try and find an older board...pretty old now but the 2010 RRd FSW was really fast and great for blasting...a bit stiff for wave sailing though.
My 2c

forceten
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31 Dec 2019 8:47AM
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nerdycross said..

forceten said..
OP, is the title here the actual question, Fastest ?



Yes the question is which is fastest,
To expand on that, if you can sail in small and limited wave also bump and jump but with the focus on blasting on flat water with a suitable dagger fin.
I used the title FSW but gess the term is flexible in terms to ask a board shape to cover all aspects of wave, b&j and blasting is a tall ask but gess will be a compromise. there are some good recommendations posted .


Answers all over the spectrum. FSW to me is a all rounder, used to be when Moby Dick was a minnow , was called , a convertible, at any one thing it doesn't excel. reminds me of " you can't may a race horse from a pig, but you can make a fast pig".
i think any number of freerides would be fast and accommodating in small waves.

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1842 posts
31 Dec 2019 3:25PM
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The older FSW boards tended to be faster, circa 2007+.

i had a few jp Fsw and noticed every year they have added a bit more manouverability. I still have a 2007 and 2012, the 2007 easier to extract speed.

if you want something on the faster side in rough water but still easy to throw around, I have a 94l 2012 SB futura. The tails on this thing is quite pointy so easy to control in all sorts of conditions. It also has inboard straps which I haven't tried. Works 4.7-6.2. Not for waves but works in big swell.

Mark _australia
WA, 19650 posts
31 Dec 2019 5:20PM
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Manuel7 said..
What's your weight? Starboard's if you're heavy, JP is amazing even on waves, Tabou great all around.


Not from what I've seen lately. Starboard if you're a featherweight and won't jump it.

Sparky
WA, 950 posts
31 Dec 2019 5:51PM
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It's been mentioned already, starboard Kode 94. Mine is 2013, it is the fastest, I just checked. Double back strap, outboard front straps. Totally rips in open water.



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