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Created by gofaster A week ago, 8 Apr 2019
gofaster
81 posts
8 Apr 2019 6:13PM
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I had a stack three weeks ago and got hit (I think) by the boom head in the side ribs near my armpit. Very painful. I was wearing a kayaking pfd, but the boom still got me. Any suggestions of a pfd or impact vest that would protect this area?. I've seen pictures of the Mystic block impact vest but not able to inspect.

Stuthepirate
SA, 3434 posts
8 Apr 2019 8:05PM
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Not without losing mobility and walking around carrying buckets.

NotWal
QLD, 6859 posts
8 Apr 2019 8:39PM
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srtgumbee
88 posts
9 Apr 2019 11:13AM
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Its been a while since I have stacked at full speed... but I know its on the cards.
I have not got an impact vest but will possibly will get one of these for the winter storms:

forward-wip.co.nz/en/4-50n-impact-vest.html

Its also 50n buoyancy so I won't have to keep hiding from the local harbormaster

BSN101
WA, 1553 posts
9 Apr 2019 4:34PM
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srtgumbee said..
Its been a while since I have stacked at full speed... but I know its on the cards.
I have not got an impact vest but will possibly will get one of these for the winter storms:

forward-wip.co.nz/en/4-50n-impact-vest.html

Its also 50n buoyancy so I won't have to keep hiding from the local harbormaster


Looks like a great vest. Flare pockets too.

BSN101
WA, 1553 posts
9 Apr 2019 4:34PM
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srtgumbee said..
Its been a while since I have stacked at full speed... but I know its on the cards.
I have not got an impact vest but will possibly will get one of these for the winter storms:

forward-wip.co.nz/en/4-50n-impact-vest.html

Its also 50n buoyancy so I won't have to keep hiding from the local harbormaster


Looks like a great vest. Flare pockets too.

Mark _australia
WA, 18959 posts
9 Apr 2019 4:42PM
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does anything have padding in the armpits / upper side chest? I think not....

keep ya wings in.....

FormulaNova
NSW, 8327 posts
9 Apr 2019 7:54PM
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gofaster said..
I had a stack three weeks ago and got hit (I think) by the boom head in the side ribs near my armpit. Very painful. I was wearing a kayaking pfd, but the boom still got me. Any suggestions of a pfd or impact vest that would protect this area?. I've seen pictures of the Mystic block impact vest but not able to inspect.


What sort of stack?

If they are catapults, in my experience the best way to avoid injury was to keep holding onto the boom and you pivot over the front, which keeps everything away from hitting you. Problem solved.

gofaster
81 posts
10 Apr 2019 4:26AM
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yep, a catapult. From long ago (broken rib) I've learnt to always keep my arms straight and hold onto the boom. but somehow the boom still got me this time. At least i think that is what happened. I did wonder if it was a muscle strain. The pain was/is immense. No bruise.

mikey100
QLD, 561 posts
10 Apr 2019 6:59AM
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Same happened to me 6wks ago. Result... 3 broken ribs (9, 10, 11), and I WAS wearing an Ion 'Collision' vest. Will be sticking to my ProLimit weight jacket in future.

Farang
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10 Apr 2019 7:14PM
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mikey100 said..
Same happened to me 6wks ago. Result... 3 broken ribs (9, 10, 11), and I WAS wearing an Ion 'Collision' vest. Will be sticking to my ProLimit weight jacket in future.



Which model of Ion Collision vest did you wear? Ion Collision SELECT 2018 (green colour) Vest is nice, but Select 2019 (blue colour) is BAD as it has only 1cm thick padding but 2018 model has 2cm thick padding. Thats why I returned back the 2019 model and ordered another 2018 model vest.

remery
WA, 358 posts
10 Apr 2019 8:16PM
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For some reason I tend to hang onto the boom when catapulted. I'm thinking now that maybe that's a good thing.

John340
QLD, 1920 posts
11 Apr 2019 7:12AM
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remery said..
For some reason I tend to hang onto the boom when catapulted. I'm thinking now that maybe that's a good thing.


Hang on and sheet in with your back hand. It initiates a barrel roll and throws the rider away from all the hard bits (boom and board)

olskool
QLD, 1174 posts
11 Apr 2019 7:44AM
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^^ Yep im with John340 on this have had many epic stacks. When i feel im about to catapult i sheet in n even give a lil jump WITH the catapult force. Seems to spin me over n away to leeward from board. I land with my back to the water in a fairly safe position. With no damage to me or my gear.

ka43
NSW, 2812 posts
11 Apr 2019 8:15AM
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All well and good but what about the violent ones when you just dont see it coming??
Happens so fast you have no time to think "Hang on, I reckon I better hang onto to the boom and do a graceful pirouette" while smiling for your Gopro.

Imax1
VIC, 1777 posts
11 Apr 2019 9:32AM
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I dont see any of my catapults coming. Unless it a gumby re hook during a jibe .
Its always at speed with the fin hitting ground .
I dont even have time to scream .
Its a fact it takes more than 0.3 of a second to react to a feeling , by that time ive finished my pirouette airborne upside-down maneuver and flat on my back still in my harness lines . I must be a hanger onner . I even got stuck between boom and sail once still in harness lines . Its not like i knew what was happening at that time for that to happen .
I believe there are two types of people , ones that hang on while crashing and the others letting go .
I find it hard to believe that we have the capabilities of changing what happens between the time our feet leave the straps and hitting the water .

KJ
VIC, 129 posts
Saturday , 13 Apr 2019 11:53AM
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Farang said..

mikey100 said..
Same happened to me 6wks ago. Result... 3 broken ribs (9, 10, 11), and I WAS wearing an Ion 'Collision' vest. Will be sticking to my ProLimit weight jacket in future.




Which model of Ion Collision vest did you wear? Ion Collision SELECT 2018 (green colour) Vest is nice, but Select 2019 (blue colour) is BAD as it has only 1cm thick padding but 2018 model has 2cm thick padding. Thats why I returned back the 2019 model and ordered another 2018 model vest.


Tore my rotator cuff loading my windsurfing bag onto the scanner going to Fiji. So when I got back decided to upgrade my mountain bike. On the 2nd ride wiped off and did my ribs badly (pain full). After 6 months off the water, is was back in it, then only after two months, I got an usual catapult and got hit in the rib's (same spot as the MTB accident) with the mast and did them again.

Decided to get a vest, I've got an ion side zip collision vest (core or amp model I think- not to be confused with the vector amp or core under the kite board/windsurfing section). The collision vest (under the "wake board" section) seem to have a bit better protection under the arm pits along the ribs. As I wear a seat harness (mid hook height), I had to modify it slightly by pulling out the foam and cutting it shorter so as not to interfere with my harness as the wake board vests are padded for longer.

Farang- are you talking about the collision vest select FZ as per the link below?

www.ion-products.com/water/men/protection/

I looked at these but couldn't find one - where did you get it?

Also has anyone tried the flying objects vest?

www.flyingobjects.com.au/products/windsurf/impact-vest/

MagicRide
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Saturday , 13 Apr 2019 10:46PM
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olskool said..
^^ Yep im with John340 on this have had many epic stacks. When i feel im about to catapult i sheet in n even give a lil jump WITH the catapult force. Seems to spin me over n away to leeward from board. I land with my back to the water in a fairly safe position. With no damage to me or my gear.


Pretty much the same for me too. When I catapult, I always land on the leeward side of my board and land on my back, usually still hooked in when on my back in the water. I then unhook, get my bearings, then get sailing again. I just seem to naturally land to the leeward side.

Mark _australia
WA, 18959 posts
Sunday , 14 Apr 2019 1:55AM
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Hanging on and straight front arm punched my shoulder out the back when the sail hit the water and stopped.......and I didn't sail for almost two yrs.

Stuff happens.

Farang
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Sunday , 14 Apr 2019 5:57AM
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KJ said..


Farang said..



mikey100 said..
Same happened to me 6wks ago. Result... 3 broken ribs (9, 10, 11), and I WAS wearing an Ion 'Collision' vest. Will be sticking to my ProLimit weight jacket in future.






Which model of Ion Collision vest did you wear? Ion Collision SELECT 2018 (green colour) Vest is nice, but Select 2019 (blue colour) is BAD as it has only 1cm thick padding but 2018 model has 2cm thick padding. Thats why I returned back the 2019 model and ordered another 2018 model vest.




Tore my rotator cuff loading my windsurfing bag onto the scanner going to Fiji. So when I got back decided to upgrade my mountain bike. On the 2nd ride wiped off and did my ribs badly (pain full). After 6 months off the water, is was back in it, then only after two months, I got an usual catapult and got hit in the rib's (same spot as the MTB accident) with the mast and did them again.

Decided to get a vest, I've got an ion side zip collision vest (core or amp model I think- not to be confused with the vector amp or core under the kite board/windsurfing section). The collision vest (under the "wake board" section) seem to have a bit better protection under the arm pits along the ribs. As I wear a seat harness (mid hook height), I had to modify it slightly by pulling out the foam and cutting it shorter so as not to interfere with my harness as the wake board vests are padded for longer.

Farang- are you talking about the collision vest select FZ as per the link below?

www.ion-products.com/water/men/protection/

I looked at these but couldn't find one - where did you get it?

Also has anyone tried the flying objects vest?

www.flyingobjects.com.au/products/windsurf/impact-vest/



Yes it is exactly that Ion Collision Vest FZ 2019 which can be seen from that link you provided - STAY AWAY FROM IT as its padding is only 1cm thick www.ion-products.com/water/men/protection/vests/collision-vest-select/ !!! Get the 2018 model which is green colour as that is 2cm thick. They look exactly same except colourwise. Get this 2018 model, if you like protection: www.warehouse-one.de/index.php?cl=details&mnid=710d3fd6c01bc906ad81eb0af5886aa4&anid=e931bbd3baadc20c8175b9a61866d659&listtype=manufacturer&&lang=1

Register yourself on this shop?s website and they will email you a 10-euro discount code that you could use it before buying this vest. In many many European shops this vest was sold out. I found this shop to be the cheapest one in Europe.

That Flying Object vest looks pretty nice too, but how thick is its padding - 1cm is nothing at all?

mikey100
QLD, 561 posts
Sunday , 14 Apr 2019 9:12AM
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Farang said..

mikey100 said..
Same happened to me 6wks ago. Result... 3 broken ribs (9, 10, 11), and I WAS wearing an Ion 'Collision' vest. Will be sticking to my ProLimit weight jacket in future.




Which model of Ion Collision vest did you wear? Ion Collision SELECT 2018 (green colour) Vest is nice, but Select 2019 (blue colour) is BAD as it has only 1cm thick padding but 2018 model has 2cm thick padding. Thats why I returned back the 2019 model and ordered another 2018 model vest.


Green one.

Farang
36 posts
Monday , 15 Apr 2019 9:08PM
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Wow - even 2cm thick padding did not save your ribs ...so that 1cm thick collision vest is only for decoration purpose... I dont know any thicker one which would be fully padded.

gofaster
81 posts
Friday , 19 Apr 2019 6:21PM
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OP here. I've tried to find the vest options mentioned but can't get any of them in NZ. We seem to only have mystic, some NP and different (lesser) ION models. Any opinion on the NP high hook or mystic block vest?

Rus13b
NSW, 238 posts
Friday , 19 Apr 2019 9:12PM
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If there is a skiing/ wake boarding shop that you can get to,
take your harness, put it on & try on some of the wake boarding
impact vests. you maybe surprised that there is a few that wont
interfere with your harness hook. if you use a seat harness.
they have heaps of thick padding every were. I got a follow,
they are made by jet pilot.

gofaster
81 posts
Yesterday , 20 Apr 2019 1:05PM
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We have Jet Pilot here. Can't see that model listed. Thanks for the suggestion re ski/wake/boating shops. Will look into it..

mbl77
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Yesterday , 20 Apr 2019 1:30PM
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gofaster said..
OP here. I've tried to find the vest options mentioned but can't get any of them in NZ. We seem to only have mystic, some NP and different (lesser) ION models. Any opinion on the NP high hook or mystic block vest?


I've got the Mystic one. It does the job - basic padding and some flotation. It fits underneath your harness. Its identical to one of the Dakine models. NZ Boardstore has them.

Then I also have a Gul Hydr8 , which has more flotation (and consequently more padding), and also a front pocket and an attachment for a water bladder at the back (the reason I bought this one). This one goes over the harness. The Gul is available from NZ Sailing in Silverdale.

Rus13b
NSW, 238 posts
Yesterday , 20 Apr 2019 3:50PM
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mine is a follow beacon, cody hesse. I guess that's the guys name who its named after.
rated to 50n or 50s, 70kg & over, suitable for all sailing comps aswell witch is helpful.



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