shortening masts

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Ollie0110
Ollie0110
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24 Jun 2026 11:24am
I have got a old 460 mast that has got an extension stuck in it, so I can't change the height and it is only just short enough to use one of my sails.
I was thinking about cutting around 14cm off the bottom so I can get the extension out and then it is short enough to use my 5.7 and 6.6 which normally use a 430 which i can only use if my dad isn't using because we only have one. The luff of those sails is 448 and 446 so it would be short enough to use those and then with an extension at 26cm I would be able to use my 7.7 which has a luff of 473.
the extension i use goes to 28 so would it still fit in the mast if fully lowered and the mast was shortened, and is it going to work if I do it. I mostly go out and do bump and jump stuff but I am getting into freerace sort of stuff and I go down to sandy point and stuff with my dad a bit for speed stuff.
One of the sails is a wave sail, and the others are race.
choco
choco
SA
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24 Jun 2026 3:43pm
Probably be ok with the larger sails but not the 5.7
John340
John340
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24 Jun 2026 5:42pm
The cut down mast and extension will be slightly stiffer than the equivalent 430 mast and extension with the 5.7 & 6.6. Conversely the cut down mast and extension will be slightly less stiff than the original 460 and extension with the 7.7. Will this matter? The purists will say it does. The reality is that you or your dad will probably not notice.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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24 Jun 2026 5:21pm
I bet it ain’t stuck

if the extension has not corroded and swelled the mast, or gone too far up the mast and swelled it, I would bet it can be resolved without cutting.


what have you tried so far?


obijohn
obijohn
WA
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24 Jun 2026 10:51pm
I agree with Mark and would try again at getting the base out. My first suggestion would be to clamp a boom tightly onto the usual boom reinforcement area to use as a long lever arm for twisting. Then set up some sort of twisting lever arm for the base. If your base has the two push-pin system, get a long posi-drive screwdriver and insert it through the two holes so you can use one hand on each end of the screw driver. You could then try to add some penetrating lubricant like WD-40. Don't try to pull the base out at first until you have used the lever arms to twist it free. Worth a try before you move on to cutting the mast.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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25 Jun 2026 7:54am
Would the extension still fit if it's inserted higher up the mast than designed? Wouldn't the mast diameter get narrower as it goes higher.?
AI.Dave
AI.Dave
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187 posts
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25 Jun 2026 8:40am
i've trimmed a mast down before.. results not great, too stiff and wrong bend curve. but can be done if you're not fussy
MattDowse
MattDowse
NSW
176 posts
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25 Jun 2026 9:22am
I have been using a cut down 460 mast in my 6.9 and 7.7 race sails for a while with no problems.
Ollie0110
Ollie0110
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25 Jun 2026 9:27am
Mark _australia said..
I bet it ain’t stuck

if the extension has not corroded and swelled the mast, or gone too far up the mast and swelled it, I would bet it can be resolved without cutting.


what have you tried so far?




the mast is over 20 years old from what I was told when I was given it, The extension has been stuck in it for quite along time too before I got it, Looks like it is corroded a bit.
I have tried clamping it and twisting it with the screwdriver through the holes on the extension but no luck, I was thinking of trying to knock it out from by going down the inside of the mast from the top but I'm not sure what I have that might work to do that.




MJP68
MJP68
QLD
148 posts
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25 Jun 2026 10:52am
I've had some success by tying off the extension line to something really solid, then very patiently pulling the mast end away over and over in sharp little snaps, to not in a tug of war way, more like a slide hammer way.
Paducah
Paducah
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25 Jun 2026 1:35pm
Classic powerex. Broke two of those doing barely nothing. Do with that information what you will...
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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25 Jun 2026 2:57pm
Yep knock it out from the top. You need something that won’t bend, I’d go with thick walled steel pipe about 25-40mm dia.
it will punch thru the plastic bung in the top of the extension, so put it on angle so it scrapes the inside of the mast (just barely) and you will feel when it hits the end on the extension tube on its outside diameter. Not the centre.
bash it while a few ppl hold it.


but first- fill with vinegar for a day. Just in case
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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25 Jun 2026 3:06pm
But it’s prob sand in those grooves rather than corrosion so good twist attempts with the bashing may help. As may sensible heating of the bottom of the mast
Paducah
Paducah
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25 Jun 2026 9:37pm
Mark _australia said..
But it’s prob sand in those grooves rather than corrosion so good twist attempts with the bashing may help. As may sensible heating of the bottom of the mast


Good idea on creating a temp difference but wouldn't something cold to be better? Hot will make the aluminum expand (my favorite ai assures me it has a higher coefficient of thermal expansion vs cf) and just make the fit more snug. Ice water or a blast from an aerosol freeze spray.
obijohn
obijohn
WA
167 posts
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26 Jun 2026 11:42am
Something to keep in mind if you do end up cutting the mast. Masts are reinforced at the bottom and at the boom area. If your boom height puts you outside that reinforced area after you cut the mast, be prepared for a quickly broken mast. If your cut puts the base in an unreinforced area, same concern.
anthony perkins
anthony perkins
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391 posts
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26 Jun 2026 5:54pm
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I'd try this
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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26 Jun 2026 6:56pm
^^^^ that’s a lotta work for apparently not having tried the vertical wobble……
but what’s holding the wood to the mast? The upper section will want to loosen due to the mast taper so must be clamped hard….?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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26 Jun 2026 6:56pm
Paducah said..


Mark _australia said..
But it’s prob sand in those grooves rather than corrosion so good twist attempts with the bashing may help. As may sensible heating of the bottom of the mast




Good idea on creating a temp difference but wouldn't something cold to be better? Hot will make the aluminum expand (my favorite ai assures me it has a higher coefficient of thermal expansion vs cf) and just make the fit more snug. Ice water or a blast from an aerosol freeze spray.



Heating mast - expansion. And the extension is carbon I thought…?
John340
John340
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3447 posts
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26 Jun 2026 9:05pm
Mark _australia said..
^^^^ that’s a lotta work for apparently not having tried the vertical wobble……


The vertical wobble works every time.
Paducah
Paducah
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2856 posts
26 Jun 2026 11:08pm
Mark _australia said..
Paducah said..


Mark _australia said..
But it’s prob sand in those grooves rather than corrosion so good twist attempts with the bashing may help. As may sensible heating of the bottom of the mast




Good idea on creating a temp difference but wouldn't something cold to be better? Hot will make the aluminum expand (my favorite ai assures me it has a higher coefficient of thermal expansion vs cf) and just make the fit more snug. Ice water or a blast from an aerosol freeze spray.



Heating mast - expansion. And the extension is carbon I thought…?


Oops! You, sir, are correct. Although I've had a couple of those extensions long ago, all mine presently are alu and that fogged my brain. fwiw, the same ai said the thermal expansion of cf wasn't much (but I'm not in a place to suggest not trying it):

"Carbon fiber: ~0 to 2 µm/m·°C (and can even be slightly negative along the fiber axis, depending on layup)
Carbon fiber has an exceptionally low CTE, which is one of the reasons it's used in applications where dimensional stability across temperature ranges matters (telescope mirrors, satellite structures, precision instruments)."
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23778 posts
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27 Jun 2026 12:18pm
John340 said


The vertical wobble works every time.


Yup but keep it a secret cos I get free masts by betting I can do it 🤣
BSN101
BSN101
WA
2392 posts
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28 Jun 2026 10:28am
Rubber mallet to the rescue.
Manuel7
Manuel7
1357 posts
1357 posts
28 Jun 2026 7:14pm
Cutting it in a pinch yes, just a touch on either side but otherwise it may be too stiff for the sail. Won't be able to sell it either after. Also the curve will be altered some, though not a big deal if it's just a little bit.

I would try to pull it apart:


Oh it's the extension, then it's easier as it's more résistant to heavy clamping. You can dip it in hot water then in ice cold water.

Check if it's oxidation what you can do to break it apart with things like penetrating oil.
AUS02
AUS02
TAS
2048 posts
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3 Jul 2026 5:48pm
Mark _australia said..
^^^^ that’s a lotta work for apparently not having tried the vertical wobble……
but what’s holding the wood to the mast? The upper section will want to loosen due to the mast taper so must be clamped hard….?


We definitely tried the wobble and just about every other method over a period of years. This method finally worked and 'yes' it was clamped hard (very hard)!
SurferKris
SurferKris
506 posts
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4 Jul 2026 12:02am
Ollie0110 said..
I was thinking about cutting around 14cm off the bottom so I can get the extension out and then it is short enough to use my 5.7 and 6.6 which normally use a 430


How long is the extension?

From the picture I'm guessing that it far from set at maximum extension, and then you have an additional 10cm (approximately) after that. So unless it is set at, or near, maximum extension you will need to cut off a lot more than 14cm.
Ollie0110
Ollie0110
VIC
9 posts
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24 Jul 2026 1:10pm
Paducah said..
Classic powerex. Broke two of those doing barely nothing. Do with that information what you will...


funnily enough yesterday was out using it, it was around 20-25kn on a 7.7 race sail and small board and i just got hit by a gust and the thing just completely folded and put me into a decent catapult somehow and resulted in a bent boom and wuite the rescue mission. I also had decided against cutting and left it as I sorted out a solution for my other sails

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