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monster
monster
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TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:21am
in my sails there is two holes in the clue which one are you suposed to use cheers bazz
mineral1
mineral1
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6 Nov 2007 10:26pm
Top one, low wind,
bottom one high wind
monster
monster
TAS
495 posts
TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:29am
so what does it do
Edge
Edge
WA
136 posts
WA, 136 posts
6 Nov 2007 10:37pm
I heard the bottom hole allows the leach and head to spill gusts, while the top hole helps hold the shape up there for maximum area in lighter wings.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12883 posts
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6 Nov 2007 10:38pm
I suspect B*&^% all, but I'm assured it does have an effect. The reasoning goes that the bottom hole allows the upper half of the sail to twist off more. But if you draw 2 lines to the tip, 1 from each hole, there doesn't seem to be much difference.

Try it and see, I've now got a sail with those 2 holes so first strong wind day, I'm going to try it.
monster
monster
TAS
495 posts
TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:43am
thanks every body
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
6 Nov 2007 10:44pm
Mine has 3 holes. But I only enjoy using the middle one.
Id like to try the bottom hole but I cant seem to thread my rope through it.
Bender
Bender
WA
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6 Nov 2007 10:47pm
3rd hole is for when its really wild or your in Germany

monster
monster
TAS
495 posts
TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:50am
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14965 posts
QLD, 14965 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:15am
i use the bottom hole on bigger sails when it's blowing. it really opens the leach up and increases the twist and increases the wind range.

top hole all other times.

i am a fan!

surfinchick
surfinchick
251 posts
251 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:01am



P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
7 Nov 2007 8:39am
i'm a short ass so i use the bottom hole.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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7 Nov 2007 9:04am
Bender said...

3rd hole is for when its really wild or your in Germany




Not only Germany, I got to use it in France, but only once. I'd like to go back to France some day.

rooster
rooster
WA
243 posts
WA, 243 posts
7 Nov 2007 11:19am
I heard Greece was renouned for it
stribo
stribo
QLD
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QLD, 1628 posts
7 Nov 2007 12:27pm
Either hole is fine
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
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7 Nov 2007 11:28am
I've always found the second hole from the back of the neck to be best......

.......... sorry should have read the whole thread I didnt realise we were talking about sails
Greenroom
Greenroom
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7 Nov 2007 2:03pm
We are... not too sure what your talking about Grumps?
Susie
Susie
SA
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7 Nov 2007 3:36pm
mineral1 said...

Top one, low wind,
bottom one high wind


Every time I rig my sails I have wondered about that! Not being very good at technical issues. FINALLY I have the answer. Thanks guys
frant
frant
VIC
1230 posts
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7 Nov 2007 4:31pm
decrepit said...

I suspect B*&^% all, but I'm assured it does have an effect. The reasoning goes that the bottom hole allows the upper half of the sail to twist off more. But if you draw 2 lines to the tip, 1 from each hole, there doesn't seem to be much difference.

Try it and see, I've now got a sail with those 2 holes so first strong wind day, I'm going to try it.

I agree with decrepit. In theory the lower hole should allow for a looser leach but I think only if the sheeting angle is changed as in the headsail on a sailboat (equivalent to moving the cars aft). With a windsurfer boom the sheeting angle will pull the leach tighter on the lower hole cf the upper hole so that you would use the lower for light wind setting. But you can make a bigger change to sheeting angle by adjusting boom height. I always just use the upper hole and use downhaul and outhaul for tuning.

bubs
bubs
SA
924 posts
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7 Nov 2007 4:11pm
P.C_simpson said...

i'm a short ass so i use the bottom hole.


Same here i always use bottom hole when it's there because my booms usually lower and it looks wierd in the top hole.

Bubs
choco
choco
SA
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monster
monster
TAS
495 posts
TAS, 495 posts
7 Nov 2007 5:27pm
and who said seabreeze was boring
stribo
stribo
QLD
1628 posts
QLD, 1628 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:33pm
monster said...

and who said seabreeze was boring


Jesus
FilthyAmatuer
FilthyAmatuer
WA
877 posts
WA, 877 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:24pm
Higher boom = top hole
Lower boom = bottom hole

or maybe

tall people = top hole
etc

who knows
Leech
Leech
WA
1933 posts
WA, 1933 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:50pm
Put the outhaul through both and enjoy the best of both worlds
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
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7 Nov 2007 4:50pm
oi

WHAT HAPPENED. This was a topic about witch hole AND NOW

Troppo
Troppo
WA
887 posts
WA, 887 posts
7 Nov 2007 4:54pm
Leech said...

Put the outhaul through both and enjoy the best of both worlds


i tried that once it worked well for a while, depends on the model though..
Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
7 Nov 2007 6:44pm
FilthyAmatuer said...

Higher boom = top hole
Lower boom = bottom hole

or maybe

tall people = top hole
etc

who knows


Well I thought it was purely based on the height of the boom as well; gonna have to try the high wind, low wind theory next time!!!!!!!!!!
choco
choco
SA
4186 posts
SA, 4186 posts
7 Nov 2007 6:47pm
Lower hole in stronger winds,top hole for marginal conditions,look at the Neil Pryde RS6/RS rigging and tuning video it;s explained there.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14965 posts
QLD, 14965 posts
7 Nov 2007 6:20pm
had this disscussion with mk. surprisingly he disagreed with me.
[}:)]

i always used the top hole thinking it was a height thing. when i bought a new sail the instructions said the different holes were for leach tuning. maybe not the case for all sails but talking to one of the shop guys he had seen good results when using it for tuning.

i tied it and it made a definate difference.

back on track now.....

lucky my sails use high grade stainless. i'd hate to get rust stains around the hole! [}:)]
surfinchick
surfinchick
251 posts
251 posts
7 Nov 2007 5:29pm
I'm quite tall, but I have never found boom height to be a problem when my sail is lying horizontal.

Also, my 5.4 sail only has one hole, I'm wondering whether I need to upgrade to a different model and experiment with the high/low wind aspect, but I'm just a beginner.
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