Whaddyareckon?

Rough dates 27/12/08 to 06/01/09, should be at least one or 2 good seabreezes over an 11 day period. These could coincide for those that want to do the Ledge to Lano, after?

Novara, Mandurah, WA

If enough are interested, lets make it happen?

dont stop there hardie! make it a WORLD TITLE event!!!!
you could even invite europeans to attend and compete!

The state body WWA should run and sanction it, it's just an idea, that may have some momentum at this point in time, with all the interest in speed and gps.

vando said...

sounds more like a WA Nm challange then Australian

Sandy point and the other eastern states speed runs are approximately the same distance for us to.

We will see if we can move Hardies run a bit closer for you

mkseven said...

Get real. Sandy Point is a world class, recognised world record venue. It is as central to the people of the west as it is to the east, if we choose not to live there then boo-hoo to us. Mandurah might well be a good spot but lets keep it to the recognised record location/s for now.

G'day Mark

Sandy point is the best speed spot in the country, no denial, but not for Nm and this thread is about the Nm distance.

For the NM with 34's and 35's thus far and 30 knots the base mark we seem to have the wood on the rest of the country for this distance. ( I wait to be corrected on this point)

Check the Rankings in GPSSS, Hardies is right up there
www.gps-speedsurfing.com/default.aspx

Unfortunately it's on the other side of the country for everyone on the eastern seaboard, Myself I would love to do a run over to Sandy point but have resigned myself to probably never being able to do it.

Keepin it real

snides8 said...

and so the bickering begins.....any real 'national championship' should involve alternating venues at alternating states and territories on an annual basis...like every other class of sailing craft....i think hardie was just trying to kick something off any way i guess sandy would be good for a n/mile attempt or an alpha 1852

Token resistance to the mighty Weed fins

Let's see...
Out of the top ten nautical mile scores on the challenge site, we have the following locations:

1 x Namibia
1 x Wello/Vicky Pt (can't tell from the post)
1 x Lechenault inlet
7 x Hardies run

Mark, you really should come over and try this spot, it's like nothing you've got over east...

Unfortunately it's on the other side of the country for everyone on the eastern seaboard, Myself I would love to do a run over to Sandy point but have resigned myself to probably never being able to do it.

Keepin it real

I did edit my post to add in SP not suitable for Nm venue. If you never be able to do a run to SP how do you expect us to travel twice the distance to Mandurah, or vice versa?

Lets not make this elitist or overly expensive as that is what killed the sport in the past, and it is getting to that point once again. Unless the system works with give and take it will not work- this is a proven fact from the past. With the Nm championship Pierre and Sean might defect to WA (as they are able) but Vando, I, Brad, BC, Mikey and Tim (all 30knot Nm'ers with half the run being open chop) are all stuck here so it would be at least nice to get a shot once in a while.

As for Sandy Point I think it's just something you have to do, I've committed myself to making SP this year come hell or wife (or is that life or death) and I'll see what life's like at the end of the year [}:)].

hardie said...

Goo Screw from VIC suggested it, I thought I'd post a thread about it. The last thing I need in my life is to organise another windsurfing event. However, having said that if enough people wanted it, I'd help out in every way I could.

Just because it would be in WA and it's not Sandy Point are pathetic reasons not to have something. Let's keep our minds open on this, closed minds don't create much

And why would I want my local spot crowded for 11 days at the best time of the year For the good of windsurfing...... that's the only reason!!! I'd be happy to keep it for the Mandurah Mob alone forever However, windsurfing is more impt than the MM

Hardie Goo Screw can goo screw himself lol

nebbian said...
Mark, you really should come over and try this spot, it's like nothing you've got over east...

I dunno Nebs, you've got spikey fish where you have to boil your foot for 3 hours. We only have sharks... edit... and kites

vando said...

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Hardie Goo Screw can goo screw himself lol

Yeh let's blame him These bloody idea's people

I would love to see this idea take off, a NATIONWIDE speed comp/series would be a great thing. Time for AWA to step up

There are ways to get the top 2 or 3 blokes/ and top woman in every state over here at minimal cost. I will make a submission to an airline, do we have any contacts in the wsurfing community? Creative fund-raising, etc.

Re: Accommodation I'd be prepared to put a few bod's up, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, we're a generous mob over here.

If ya wannit, in enough no.s, then we'll find a way to make it happen. You've gotta wannit first, believe in it second, and then hard work will make it happen. As I said I don't need this in my life, but I'd bloody work hard to make it happen if that's what we want???

And since all the speed freaks would be over here, would could run every other category as well..................

Dare to Dream!!!!!!!!

mkseven said...
& I was referring to official national results recognised world wide, not disrespecting the GPS challenge or anything.

Ouch

mkseven said...

Point taken Elmo, but care to loan us Chris L. for a while?

Gladly He doesn't sail for our team, only comes down here to kick our freckle on occasion

mkseven said...

Essentially for the two top Qld teams if the drive is more than 10mins a good speed spot is written off.

I can dig that philosophy in life, with what we have in our back yard it's hard to justify travel

Time spent driving is not time spent sailing

mkseven said...

I was referring to official national results recognized world wide, not disrespecting the GPS challenge or anything.

For the recognition of the results, it is already there, it just needs to be accepted by the majority of participants, this has been already been done in the teams challenge.

It's working to a standardized method, the current (ratified) method of measuring speed is done with camera's, before that it was done with stop watches.

All we have to do is come to an agreement that the measuring devices (GPS's) and the methodology (Software and settings) and have checks in place (tracks assessed by accepted parties) and hey presto it's game on.

The Teams challenge was based on what was developed by GPSSS, ok it varies a bit to ISA and the other mobs way of doing things, but just because Finnian doesn't like it doesn't stop it being a valid format.

I think it would be a good thing if the Australian Windsurfing Association (is there such a thing?) did run with it and started putting some recognition to the efforts of the crew out there.

GPS has allowed everybody the opportunity for being out there on the right day at the right time rather than a "speed week" when the gates are set up.

I wouldn't put down the teams challenge, There are close to 200 people in Australia competing under a set of rules and guidelines based on an international format which have I think around 2000 people participating in.

Just digressing a bit, I may have totally misinterpreted your post (sorry if I have), but I think we do have a format which can get National and international recognition.

Lets make it happen.

It should be held at the location that is easiest to organise. If that means its where there are committed crew to run it then so be it.

I'm in. I will gladly help in any way i can. In my distant clubbie past i've had experence in planning to host a state championships at my club so i know anything is possible.

Why not state about. i need an excuse to travel.

Its up to us!!!