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Locosys GW-60

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Created by sailquik > 9 months ago, 5 Oct 2016
sammy1
20 posts
1 Nov 2016 7:11AM
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What exactly is the big improvement between this device and the GT-31?
Is it just that its a watch???
Thats not much of an improvement
What is there to be gained by being able to see your 2sec speed?
Do you think you'll be maxed out, then look at watch and realize how slow your actually going, then you'll be able to just go faster. .....
I guess so, when i do my 100m sprints, i usually look at my watch, and realize i need to run faster even though im already trying my best, but since i looked at my data on my watch i somehow miraculous all of a sudden can now run faster......
An improvement would have been different data
Like showing you your current hr avg as your sailing
Your best alpha
A visible sess odometer
An option to set it up to measure your nm and give you feed back on that whilst sailing
And help with the alpha....possibly helping you map your 250m in and out and how far downwind from your starting pt.....
Ive broken a lot of watch bands in life......sometimes break bands wiping out, is there some sorta warranty against breaking the band and losing the thing while just doing what you bought it for, like windsurfing and occasionally wiping out at decent speeds?

John340
QLD, 1614 posts
1 Nov 2016 11:12AM
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sammy1 said..
What exactly is the big improvement between this device and the GT-31?
Is it just that its a watch???
Thats not much of an improvement
What is there to be gained by being able to see your 2sec speed?
Do you think you'll be maxed out, then look at watch and realize how slow your actually going, then you'll be able to just go faster. .....
I guess so, when i do my 100m sprints, i usually look at my watch, and realize i need to run faster even though im already trying my best, but since i looked at my data on my watch i somehow miraculous all of a sudden can now run faster......
An improvement would have been different data
Like showing you your current hr avg as your sailing
Your best alpha
A visible sess odometer
An option to set it up to measure your nm and give you feed back on that whilst sailing
And help with the alpha....possibly helping you map your 250m in and out and how far downwind from your starting pt.....
Ive broken a lot of watch bands in life......sometimes break bands wiping out, is there some sorta warranty against breaking the band and losing the thing while just doing what you bought it for, like windsurfing and occasionally wiping out at decent speeds?


The improvements include
1. It is in production, the GT-31 is not.
2. It records your position every 0.2 s, the Gt-31 every 1 sec
3. It is water proof to 50m depth, the GT-31 is maybe splash proof and must be worn in a water proof bag
4. The speed genie on the GW-60 can be adjusted to show Max speed, any average speed (eg 2 sec, 10 sec up to 30sec) and distance
5. The push buttons on the GT-60 will allow you to easily change the display to the time, timer, stopwatch etc

The other desired feedback improvements you cite for alphas, NM, 500m etc are not available on the GW-60 but are available on GPS-Logit on a smart phone

Simon100
QLD, 413 posts
1 Nov 2016 1:43PM
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Numbers 1 and 3 make it a winner.

sailquik
VIC, 3450 posts
1 Nov 2016 7:43PM
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Ive broken a lot of watch bands in life......sometimes break bands wiping out, is there some sorta warranty against breaking the band and losing the thing while just doing what you bought it for, like windsurfing and occasionally wiping out at decent speeds?







No.

Really? Are you serious?

If you are I don't think this device would be for you.

But it does highlight a disadvantage of the watch form. When we first got the Garmin Foretrex 201, and we still thought it was 'waterproof', we wore it on the wrist or arm with the velcro watchband it came with. As a result, there are quite a few still on the bottom of Shallow Inlet somewhere.

If you are about that, there are a few 'solutions' I can think of:
- use a cable tie to secure it to your arm
- Enclose it in an arm band, preferably one that floats.
- Wear it inside your helmet or hat

BTW, nice anonymous 'first' post.

sammy1
20 posts
2 Nov 2016 6:41AM
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I broke a watch band just typing this post........

So you guys are creaming your pants because your 2sec is now more visibly accessible

That's the only difference between this watch on your wrist and your gt31 in an aquapac on your shoulder

Waterproofing is no issue, in fact I would suggest a gt31 in an aqua pac is still probably more waterproof than the watch, and like most watches, it will probably thuck up over time due to the waterproofing aspect letting you down.....

Still, I know heaps of people are excited to get the watch, they have pre ordered heaps up here at Budgy

Good luck, I hope it works well for people.......still gotta be better than a homemade one.....balls simon, sux them....

eastcoast
56 posts
2 Nov 2016 8:18AM
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sammy1 said...
sometimes break bands wiping out, is there some sorta warranty against breaking the band and losing the thing while just doing what you bought it for, like windsurfing and occasionally wiping out at decent speeds?



Yes the same warranty you get when u catapult and smash your board up????

Dylan72
QLD, 531 posts
7 Nov 2016 1:37PM
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The info I have from Locosys is that the warranty is 13 months on the watch, and 6 months on the battery. I'll post more specific info if I ever get it, but I doubt they would accept a claim on a device that is lying at the bottom of the ocean.

Along with the stores listed elsewhere in this thread, ka72.com is now selling the GW-60 online both on our website and on our Facebook page. We're expecting to receive our units in mid-late December. Like other stores we have some pre-order discounts. I'll be in Tasmania after Xmas, so can hand-deliver down there potentially.

Dylan.

geoITA
112 posts
11 Nov 2016 4:40PM
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Wooow!!!
It's EXACTLY what I was hoping for!
Wrist wearable with no hassle!
Real waterproofing, presumably speedsurfingproof!
Big clear screen with big numbers!
Data transfer and charge via clip-on cable, so no poorly waterproofable USB/microUSB connector!
Decent battery autonomy, very good memory with no extra SD needed!
Plus all the speedsurfing specific software of the GT-31!

decrepit
WA, 7595 posts
11 Nov 2016 5:25PM
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sammy1 said..
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So you guys are creaming your pants because your 2sec is now more visibly accessible

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Hardly, that's only the case if you set the average speed to 2s, most of us will have it set to 10s.

If the GW52 is anything to go by, "max speed" can get very close to 1kt more than the 2s average, depending how peaky your run is.
The display uses the 5hz data, so you're looking at the peak over 0.2s instead of a 1.0s average of the GT31.

geoITA
112 posts
14 Nov 2016 2:28AM
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On second thought.
It is just slightly less expensive than a Suunto Ambit3 Sport.
By comparison the Ambit3 comes from a famous brand, is much nicer to wear as an everyday watch, has better autonomy, is presumably sturdier, has tons of apps to work with for every sport. It's not clear to me how many trackpoints it can log, but not everybody looks for full session analysis capacity rather than just max speed showing on dial.
So I think that - once again - the GW-60 will have very little appeal outside of the small niche of people looking for specific speedsurfing record-seeking GPS features. Others will prefer the Ambit3. So sales will be very thin (unless price drops by a large amount) with all the obvious consequences.

AUS 808
WA, 205 posts
14 Nov 2016 9:39AM
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eastcoast said..
sammy1 said...
sometimes break bands wiping out, is there some sorta warranty against breaking the band and losing the thing while just doing what you bought it for, like windsurfing and occasionally wiping out at decent speeds?



Yes the same warranty you get when u catapult and smash your board up????


That only applies in the USA

MrFish
37 posts
16 Nov 2016 2:13AM
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Has anyone received and tested one of these yet ?

Boombuster
QLD, 466 posts
16 Nov 2016 8:04AM
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Has anyone received and tested one of these yet ?


No not yet been told end of Nov but then prob extra 3 weeks in post.

MrFish
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16 Nov 2016 1:39PM
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MrFish said..
Has anyone received and tested one of these yet ?



No not yet been told end of Nov but then prob extra 3 weeks in post.


Thanks

sailquik
VIC, 3450 posts
29 Nov 2016 3:21PM
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Thanks to my USA friend Craig Bergh, I just got some more information on the recording mode and acces to the file logs in the GW-60:

The default”USB CLASS/connection setting is "COM" mode (USB virtual COM port connection for utility software)
But you can switch the settings to Mass-Storage-Class (MSC) mode via the GW60 settings menu whenever you want.


I read this to mean that the device some to us in default 'COM' mode. For those who wish to use it in Mass-Storage-Class (MSC) mode for access from non windows devices, one must change to this mode in the settings before using it.

The firmware update utility, and the settings and download utility to use in COM mode are not still Windows only. For the settings and download, this is not an issue for Mac users as the settings can all be done in the watch and the downloads can be done via the Mass-Storage-Class (MSC) mode.

But for firmware updates, Mac users will still have to find a friend with a Windows machine.

Boombuster
QLD, 466 posts
30 Nov 2016 8:15AM
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Locosys
Email too me 29.11.16
I am afraid of that the delivery will be postponed to December 7.
As the bad weather troubles our delivery procedure, please kindly understand we did not mean to let you wait and will put a lot of efforts to make the delivery as fast as we can.
I apologize for every inconvenience that may cause you.

<div>Best regards,

<div>
<div>Rudy Lin

yoyo
WA, 1502 posts
30 Nov 2016 2:08PM
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With the Hanjin mess still sending ripples through the freight routes I guess we can be thankful they are small enough to airfreight.

legless
NSW, 739 posts
1 Dec 2016 2:42PM
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Just had an updated from Locosys. It seems they are not expecting to get the GW-60 till around the 7th December . Then they have to be shipped to Australia so at the moment I would not expect to get them till the middle of December .

Fingers crossed they make it before Christmas .

Boombuster
QLD, 466 posts
1 Dec 2016 4:37PM
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legless said..

Just had an updated from Locosys. It seems they are not expecting to get the GW-60 till around the 7th December . Then they have to be shipped to Australia so at the moment I would not expect to get them till the middle of December .

Fingers crossed they make it before Christmas .


Did you read my post above.
I got a new email today saying.

<div>As we had bad weather, some of the machines had problems to work. This caused the delivery to be postponed.

<div>Next week the product can be at your side.

<div>I am so sorry about that.

<div>

<div>Best regards,

<div>
<div>
<div>Rudy Lin


legless
NSW, 739 posts
1 Dec 2016 6:08PM
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legless said..

Just had an updated from Locosys. It seems they are not expecting to get the GW-60 till around the 7th December . Then they have to be shipped to Australia so at the moment I would not expect to get them till the middle of December .

Fingers crossed they make it before Christmas .



Did you read my post above.
I got a new email today saying.

<div>As we had bad weather, some of the machines had problems to work. This caused the delivery to be postponed.


I got a similar email, and sent them an email for confirmation of delivery date they came back with a confusing email. They now have emailed me again apologising for the confusion and saying I will have them delivered to me next week.

Boombuster
QLD, 466 posts
6 Dec 2016 5:42AM
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Downloads for GW-60 are up.
www.locosystech.com/product.php?zln=en&id=138

legless
NSW, 739 posts
8 Dec 2016 9:56AM
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The GW-60 has arrived in a Australia.

AUS1111
WA, 2646 posts
8 Dec 2016 8:09AM
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^^^ Are you going to wear eight of them at the same time?

legless
NSW, 739 posts
8 Dec 2016 11:53AM
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^^^ Are you going to wear eight of them at the same time?



There are a lot more than 8 in that box

Boombuster
QLD, 466 posts
8 Dec 2016 11:00AM
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Jordan's Sailboard shop have stock so orders will be sent out ASAP to customers on Pre-order.

Boombuster
QLD, 466 posts
8 Dec 2016 11:05AM
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Should it be said that no one should be using the watches for posting on GPSTC until they are approved?
Daff or Mike might reply as the watches are about too hit the water.

jimbob SA
SA, 817 posts
8 Dec 2016 12:11PM
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Boombuster said...
Jordan's Sailboard shop have stock so orders will be sent out ASAP to customers on Pre-order.


AUS1111
WA, 2646 posts
8 Dec 2016 9:43AM
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legless said..

AUS1111 said..
^^^ Are you going to wear eight of them at the same time?




There are a lot more than 8 in that box


You can see how fast your right leg goes compared to your left shoulder

AUS1111
WA, 2646 posts
8 Dec 2016 12:45PM
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Mine has just rocked up

No instructions? Is some guru going to knock together a quick Youtube tutorial for us dummies / lazy people?

Jacko51
SA, 125 posts
8 Dec 2016 3:48PM
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Instructions here.
www.locosystech.com/product.php?zln=en&id=138



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