Mal, only question, and this is just first glance. Slowey is at top right now, and to stay there he doesn't have too do much, just watch you guys bust a guttz trying to catch him. It could be anybody,, Elmo, you or who ever, he just happens to be at top right now.
How can we handicap him (or the top numbers) so to stay there, he/they, need to set a better than last run.
Or set handicap system up so if anybody has a "good day." they can hit the top rung? Well at least until the next person gets a good run and tops the previous out. The need for constant auto re-handicap on last X runs, will need to come into play.
Gee I hope this sounds right to those reading it. Sounds right too me, but not sure its coming out how I think it should be.

Then again, bugger it, we are having fun as it is any way

TM..."So Daff is still the winner with the highest handicap number. But only just! If I get about 51 knots I have got him"

Just as well you didn't include an age factor..then you'd be really stuffed :-)))

Didn't Slowie do a run without weight that was almost as fast at SP recently?

43.78 ave on 03/10/07.

Actually a location handicap sounds like a good idea. The best way to handicap would be to average the same top riders at different locals. For example Pt Walter is the top location in WA but Chris' best display speed is only 41.3 and Dan's 40.4 compared to their SP peak speeds of 48.4 and 45.5. Both have done plenty of runs at both locations so I think one can fairly say that you can only go 87% as fast in WA compared to SP. Or the other way around you SHOULD be able to go ~ 15% faster at SP for Sandgropers contemplating a trip east. I say "should" because I actually went slower in fantastic SP conditions. So make sure your board is set up for FLAT water.

Over here Mandurah (Hardies run) is probably the next best but if Chris and Dan went there maybe they would surpass their Pt Walter speeds. LP could be up for 2nd spot. I think a few have got their PBs there.

yoyo said...

TM..."So Daff is still the winner with the highest handicap number. But only just! If I get about 51 knots I have got him"

Just as well you didn't include an age factor..then you'd be really stuffed :-)))

Didn't Slowie do a run without weight that was almost as fast at SP recently?

43.78 ave on 03/10/07.

Actually a location handicap sounds like a good idea. The best way to handicap would be to average the same top riders at different locals. For example Pt Walter is the top location in WA but Chris' best display speed is only 41.3 and Dan's 40.4 compared to their SP peak speeds of 48.4 and 45.5. Both have done plenty of runs at both locations so I think one can fairly say that you can only go 87% as fast in WA compared to SP. Or the other way around you SHOULD be able to go ~ 15% faster at SP for Sandgropers contemplating a trip east. I say "should" because I actually went slower in fantastic SP conditions. So make sure your board is set up for FLAT water.

Over here Mandurah (Hardies run) is probably the next best but if Chris and Dan went there maybe they would surpass their Pt Walter speeds. LP could be up for 2nd spot. I think a few have got their PBs there.

YoYo there is now another spot, it's caled Howard's Way, named by Decrepit. It also has 40knots plus potential, it's where I did my 2 sec PB. Kiters have The Ice Ramp which might be faster than all runs, but we can't sail that too shallow for us.

Re BBQ time, at this stage 1pm, but will call it officially as gets closer.

Hey Yoyo, out of interest, where else have you been on your "quest for the unltimate WA speed spot"? Can you give them a rating out of 10?

Ta,

Ado

AUS1111 said...

Hey Yoyo, out of interest, where else have you been on your "quest for the unltimate WA speed spot"? Can you give them a rating out of 10?

Ta,

Ado

Just for Fun I would like to have a go at rating

If Sandy Point 10 (yes have sailed it)

Then :

HRun = 7 to 8.0 (7 = danger, rocks, weed and tides; 8.0 = 40 knots proven)

Yoyo's = 6.5 to 7.5 (lower votes bec short run, poor wind factors)

Howard'sway 6.5 to 7.5 (Not as long, but very flat when windy)

The Ice Ramp (Kiting on Low Tide) = 9 (Long and flattest in Mandurah) but suicidal 4 windsurfers

The Ice Ramp (Windsurfing with enough water) = 5 coz danger = 8 speed potential

Let's start a new thread then on best WA speed spots. Who know's we might uncover something new and exciting!

Mal's formula is great...tho I thought wt / max speed was a nice simple formula for a club speed event at a particular spot to even things up a bit.

firiebob said...

I've been reading and thinking, yeh yeh,

As Mal said, location location location, but what about the open water sailers.
I just read a comment by Chris in another thread, where he did 33 knots in 25 of wind in open water, and he's the best in the world so far this year

Just to put that into context.

Scarborough is a open water surf spot, normally wave sailed by mere mortals

Crazy waves is a winter jumper's paradise, lotsa ramps coming in at all different angles.

Open waters fun, these spots a a tad more extreme