When Tuttle isn't tuttle

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Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
1282 posts
NSW, 1282 posts
17 May 2007 7:06pm
Hi everyone

I've just bought a set of fins (cheap on ebay) for my '05 Missile but when I went to fit them today they bottomed out in the finbox with about 4mm of base protruding from the board. Has anyone else experienced this? What I'd really like is a template or such of a tuttle finbox so I can re-profile the head. I don't think I can just gring of the top a bit because the taper will stop it from going any further and I don't want to take off too much. Any hints?

Jethrow
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14965 posts
QLD, 14965 posts
17 May 2007 7:52pm
hi jethrow,

yes there is 2 different types of tuttle. one with the taper and one which is square.

what you need to do is taper the fin base. it is a vey subtle taper but it is enough to stop your fins from fitting properly.

this is also the same with deep tuttle.
Jethrow
Jethrow
NSW
1282 posts
NSW, 1282 posts
17 May 2007 8:09pm
Yeah, I hear what you're saying but when it goes into the finbox it stops with a thunk as it bottoms out, not slowly getting tighter as if the taper was wrong
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
17 May 2007 8:20pm
1 grinder + 1 fin = sweet fit

Keep grinding until it fits nicely. I had to do that with a new powerbox fin as well, despite all powerboxes supposedly being created equal.

At least that way you know that the base of the fin is perfectly, 100% flush with the base of your board

P.S. Just before you attack it, check the box for any spacers that might have found their way into the guts...
Roo
Roo
882 posts
Roo Roo
882 posts
18 May 2007 7:16am
There are actually two different sizes of Tuttle box in the market, those built in the US by Tuttle and used in the top end racing equipment and those used by Cobra in Thailand. There is a difference in depth. Careful surgery with sandpaper and a grinder should allow you to fit your new fins flush with the bottom of the board.
DavMen
DavMen
NSW
1510 posts
NSW, 1510 posts
18 May 2007 10:23am

Hi Jethro


Don't you have an existing (fitting) tuttle to match against? If bottoming out is the only problem - measure using calipers - ALDI has cheap Digital readout ones going this week.
Check against a deep tuttle box before mucking around with the taper - They should fit sweet as is in a DTB, else tapper is wrong too.

DavMen
frant
frant
VIC
1230 posts
VIC, 1230 posts
18 May 2007 11:20am
I have found that each fin must be fitted to each board by hand. I have five tuttle box boards each of which has a slight variation in length, width and depth (1 deep tuttle). Again all of the fins have variation in the length, width and depth of the tuttle head. The variations are a result of manufacturing and installation variations. ie misalignment of moulds, defects in moulds and differences in manufacturing technique (cast head vs NC machined head. I do have 2 different brand of fin that have a cast head that is about 3-4mm different in depth. This could be your problem if you have a shallow box in your board coupled with a deeper head. Simply fit by hand using a panel file, file or sandpaper block using soap to "blue" the fitup.
mathew
mathew
QLD
2172 posts
QLD, 2172 posts
18 May 2007 12:53pm
Also of note (not only depth) is the "roundedness" of the corners of the base -> Starboards tend to be a little more rounded than say F2. Sometimes a little sandpaper is useful (rather than a grinder).
sailquik
sailquik
VIC
6171 posts
VIC, 6171 posts
18 May 2007 6:36pm
Nah! When the base of the fin is too deep, just hit it with the grinder until it doesn't hit bottom. No finesse required.
I have found the same as Matt with the shape. Some heads are squarer in the ends than other. If it is a squarish end and sits too high, it is best to very carefully (hand) sand a bit off the edges (rounding them)and try that before attacking the flats on the ends. If the fin head goes in too deep, either shim it up with thin strips of plastic or build it up with a thin layer of fiberglass or epoxy filler (carefully masked up before application of course).
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WA
319 posts
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WA, 319 posts
18 May 2007 7:46pm
Dont panic Jethrow - just cut or grind
The 05 Missile has a notoriously shallow tuttle box.
I borrowed one (05 Missile) from a good friend for a few weeks and had to trim about 5mm from the heads of the fins I used (so they would fit flush). Its not a drama - the fins still work fine in adeeper box.
Cheers
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