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roko
roko
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12 Apr 2013 8:50am
we missed evilc for a long time yesterday. its a long swim without wind
standing I the carpark wondering where he is was not funny
is there a lesson in this?
evilC
evilC
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12 Apr 2013 10:10am
roko said...

we missed evilc for a long time yesterday. its a long swim without wind
standing I the carpark wondering where he is was not funny
is there a lesson in this?


Yes, don't follow me .

Seriously though, I always go somewhere where the wind is to some degree on-shore in case something breaks and if the wind dies and doesn't come back you can always paddle your way back to shore. Worst case scenario, dump the rig and paddle the board back.

Thanks for caring and sorry if I caused you concern
Richiefish
Richiefish
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5612 posts
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12 Apr 2013 11:37am
Clive "disappears for a while" out there quite a lot....I reckon he's tending his illegal crop out on Green Island .....?....

(either that or he's got a mermaid stashed out there somewhere)....
evilC
evilC
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12 Apr 2013 12:20pm
Richiefish said...
Clive "disappears for a while" out there quite a lot....I reckon he's tending his illegal crop out on Green Island .....?....

(either that or he's got a mermaid stashed out there somewhere)....



or both
lee1972
lee1972
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12 Apr 2013 9:36pm
It's funny you should mention this as Clive did this last year headed out on a 85ltr only to get stuck way out when the wind died. I kept my eye in him from the car park, after 45 mins I went to the marine rescue station, just as the guys were just about to jump in and get him the wind picked up and Clive sailed back in.
evilC
evilC
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13 Apr 2013 12:24am
lee1972 said...
It's funny you should mention this as Clive did this last year headed out on a 85ltr only to get stuck way out when the wind died. I kept my eye in him from the car park, after 45 mins I went to the marine rescue station, just as the guys were just about to jump in and get him the wind picked up and Clive sailed back in.


Ooopppsss !
ikw777
ikw777
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16 Apr 2013 12:15pm
The temptation to sail out a long way can be very strong sometimes. I used to give in to it a lot, but lately I've tried to rein it in a bit. It's no good being kilometers out to sea when something goes amiss!
Haggar
Haggar
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16 Apr 2013 1:22pm
If you going for a long run then I think you should sail with a bud ...........
FYI Moreton Bay is about 25 K's wide in parts
Simon100
Simon100
QLD
490 posts
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16 Apr 2013 11:45pm
you can always swim back , i wouldnt stress about it .
DarkHorse
DarkHorse
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17 Apr 2013 7:16am
Another Option I've used is you de-rig the sail, put it all onto the board and tie it on with downhaul, uphaul etc ( I generally carry extra rope) and either lie on top and paddle or swim beside the board...
There are always options, all you have to do is get to land..
Since I tend to enjoy sailing all over the place I usually have a mobile and if I decide on a long haul (ie Wello up round Peel etc) then I carry a PLB and soon will have a Handheld VHF...
You just have to think through how to save yourself before you head out...
Cheers
Dave
sonic
sonic
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756 posts
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17 Apr 2013 8:07am
Its amazing nobody has got into serious problems when you look at some conditions we go out in, keep safe everyone, getting to that time of year were wind is off shore and dodgy
Scotf
Scotf
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17 Apr 2013 1:23pm
I've had a two and a half hour swim back when the wind died between wello and lota creek. It happened on dusk also, not a lot of fun swimming back in the dark.

Not such an issue on a big board but on a small board it can be a real problem.
Richiefish
Richiefish
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17 Apr 2013 2:32pm
Scotf said...
I've had a two and a half hour swim back when the wind died between wello and lota creek. It happened on dusk also, not a lot of fun swimming back in the dark.

Not such an issue on a big board but on a small board it can be a real problem.


Not to mention you were being followed by a pack of ravenous bull sharks !...
evilC
evilC
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682 posts
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17 Apr 2013 3:04pm
One method I have used before is to pull the downhaul rope off the cleat so the board can accidently become separated from the rig, let the board get blown back to shore a few kilometres from where you set off, swim the rig to where the board ended up and find someone with a ute to give you a lift back to where you started from. I used this technique in my first year of windsurfing when my mast went through the top of the luff pocket when sailing offshore at Viccy Point
blackattack
blackattack
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17 Apr 2013 5:16pm
Hi Clive,

bad bad bad theory! I would never ditch the board. I can only guess your joking. It would be impossible to swim the rig by itself.

Just roll all your kit up stick on top of your board and start paddling or just get into the waterstart position and swim your kit from here (boom resting on board.)

All else fails hang onto a marker like I did one night until a boat comes and picks you up.
evilC
evilC
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17 Apr 2013 5:42pm
blackattack said...
Hi Clive,

bad bad bad theory! I would never ditch the board. I can only guess your joking. It would be impossible to swim the rig by itself.

Just roll all your kit up stick on top of your board and start paddling or just get into the waterstart position and swim your kit from here (boom resting on board.)

All else fails hang onto a marker like I did one night until a boat comes and picks you up.



It was an accident (I didn't realise the downhaul rope is the only thing keeping the rig attached to the board), although I did manage to swim the rig back (took me ages). I feel out of breath just reliving the memory
togalog
togalog
NSW
84 posts
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18 Apr 2013 1:29pm
Soo" being a struggling intermediate, on a 130 litre board,what advantages do sinkers have that outway the possibility of becominga shark biscuit when the wind drops?
swoosh
swoosh
QLD
1929 posts
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18 Apr 2013 2:15pm
togalog said...
Soo" being a struggling intermediate, on a 130 litre board,what advantages do sinkers have that outway the possibility of becominga shark biscuit when the wind drops?


As a struggling intermediate, there are none. With modern gear, you would really only sail a sinker in fairly specific specialised circumstances, like speed guys on 25kt days.
Simon100
Simon100
QLD
490 posts
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19 Apr 2013 11:41am
swoosh said...
togalog said...
Soo" being a struggling intermediate, on a 130 litre board,what advantages do sinkers have that outway the possibility of becominga shark biscuit when the wind drops?


As a struggling intermediate, there are none. With modern gear, you would really only sail a sinker in fairly specific specialised circumstances, like speed guys on 25kt days.



that depends on what you weigh though for me my isonic 97 sinks almost to my waist but is a good all round size for 14 to 25 knots .
A smaller board will just be alot easier to control if yours is trying to take off on you it depends how strugling intermediate you are
Nikita
Nikita
QLD
223 posts
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19 Apr 2013 12:01pm
swoosh said...
togalog said...
Soo" being a struggling intermediate, on a 130 litre board,what advantages do sinkers have that outway the possibility of becominga shark biscuit when the wind drops?


As a struggling intermediate, there are none. With modern gear, you would really only sail a sinker in fairly specific specialised circumstances, like speed guys on 25kt days.



Swoosh likes freestyle boards, so the statement is not true for everyone. Small boards turn better (generally).
swoosh
swoosh
QLD
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19 Apr 2013 12:41pm
It's all true, I'm a midget that sails boards that don't turn
togalog
togalog
NSW
84 posts
NSW, 84 posts
19 Apr 2013 2:03pm
Oh" they're meant to turn
togalog
togalog
NSW
84 posts
NSW, 84 posts
19 Apr 2013 2:30pm
I' just wonder if the same trends and fads exist as they do in surfing. Boards got ridiculously thin and narrow in the nineties on and now I'm riding boards the same dimensions as boards of the late seventies plus a fin or two. Much more user. Friendly .
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