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Neilpryde EVO 11

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Created by fpw9082 2 months ago, 19 Sep 2018
fpw9082
QLD, 64 posts
19 Sep 2018 5:39AM
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When NP will let go 2019 EVO 11 in production?
Why EVOX is still in 2019 sails overview,isnt evox sail from 2018?




www.neilpryde.com/pages/sails

my7thlife
40 posts
19 Sep 2018 3:48AM
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TurnBackTime said..
When NP will let go 2019 EVO 11 in production?
Why EVOX is still in 2019 sails overview,isnt evox sail from 2018?




www.neilpryde.com/pages/sails



The new EVO will be called EVO Xs and there will also be a cheaper model with aluminum instead of carbon battens called EVO Xr

fpw9082
QLD, 64 posts
19 Sep 2018 6:00AM
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my7thlife said..


TurnBackTime said..
When NP will let go 2019 EVO 11 in production?
Why EVOX is still in 2019 sails overview,isnt evox sail from 2018?




www.neilpryde.com/pages/sails




The new EVO will be called EVO Xs and there will also be a cheaper model with aluminum instead of carbon battens called EVO XR



How do you know that?Alu- battens??

Why in 2018 product book is EVO9, if EVOX is sail from 2018?
Is this error od what?

www.neilpryde.com/blogs/catalogs/2018-product-book

my7thlife
40 posts
19 Sep 2018 2:43PM
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I forgot to mention, with its lower price tag, EVO Xr will bring EVO to the masses!!!


Seriously now, the EVO launch is not aligned with the rest of the sail range, expect a December-January release.

...and btw has NP become a subsidiary of JP Australia now? Their sails were first shown at the JP site and at least a month later at NP.com. Even NP's facebook account has been actively advertising JP boards. Makes you wonder...

Steve Charles
TAS, 1057 posts
19 Sep 2018 8:01PM
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Arhhh Sean I was about to say the same thing and read your post Hmmm might need to add a palm and blue water to my avatar

MartinF2
QLD, 465 posts
19 Sep 2018 10:31PM
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my7thlife said..
...and btw has NP become a subsidiary of JP Australia now? Their sails were first shown at the JP site and at least a month later at NP.com. Even NP's facebook account has been actively advertising JP boards. Makes you wonder...


I can't tell if you are serious or not. You know the Pryde Group owns JP and Cabrinha right (and others).

It's a pet hate that the racing program isn't in line with the rest of the range. In Australia due to when orders have to be placed for the new year range the race sails are not ready and then we have to wait until our season is almost finished to see them. I guess it's a first world problem right

I don't think this years video is as good as usual.........

NordRoi
251 posts
20 Sep 2018 4:12AM
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What I've understood from a friend sponsored by Neil Pryde is NP Racing only releasing a new edition if they does a significant changes to the sail and some years it doesn't follow the release date of all other sails.

Maddlad
WA, 289 posts
20 Sep 2018 7:42AM
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Yeah that video wasn't great, unless you're really into wave sailing coz it showed bugger all else.

fpw9082
QLD, 64 posts
21 Sep 2018 2:22AM
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NordRoi said..
What I've understood from a friend sponsored by Neil Pryde is NP Racing only releasing a new edition if they does a significant changes to the sail and some years it doesn't follow the release date of all other sails.


That is not true,every year NP sell new EVO version, 8,9,10 etc.
In novembe,december team sailors test new EVO prototype on Maui,when AA give thumb up-his word is the last,then sail go in production.

Sail evolution goes step by step ,no place for radical improvement,no palace for revolution.I can not feel differnece between evo9 and 10,maybe profi wsurfer do,but I doubt.

TheTank
79 posts
21 Sep 2018 2:44AM
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The chance of seeing or finding a Evo proto picture that is close to production ready is slim to none at the moment. The last 5 or 6 years the first Evo prototypes and pre productions show up around the web late october. Usually during the Luderitz Speed Challenge a couple of teamriders have them. Then late november the first official photo or product rendering is released after which all details are revealed early december.

Pre-order usually starts mid to late november with the first sails arriving early to mid january. Depending on the size you order some sails (smaller slalom and speed sizes) might take as late as mid march to arrive.

Sparky
WA, 784 posts
21 Sep 2018 8:37AM
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I have been told by a reliable source that the Evo11 will be a wingsail.

Maddlad
WA, 289 posts
21 Sep 2018 8:39AM
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Hahaha

fpw9082
QLD, 64 posts
21 Sep 2018 3:53PM
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Race sail never will be full wing sails,it is unsailable.

Today race sail is best option,copy of birds wing,luff tube almost 25-30% wing section of chord line,rest is thin like"feathers".Breath-ability for control in strong winds.

Maybe for few years they introduce wing sail only on foiling,because drag is so small so every gust you can convert in acceleration.No force in arms,no catapulat ,everything going in to acceleration.Maybe.
Drag of foil is so small, basically only your mass inertia resist to change in sail power/acceleration.

jusavina
QLD, 1140 posts
25 Sep 2018 6:15PM
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my7thlife said..
The new EVO will be called EVO Xs and there will also be a cheaper model with aluminum instead of carbon battens called EVO Xr





EVO Xr already exists and it's called RS:X

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WA, 311 posts
26 Sep 2018 8:03PM
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Would not be surprised if EvoX gets another run for 2019. R&D emphasis has been on foil sails and EvoX has been pacesetter this year. See RS Flight pic from last weekend in France - not the same sail as on the current website! Looks more advanced than a proto - screened logos and sail names etc!

Maddlad
WA, 289 posts
27 Sep 2018 8:51AM
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Yeah I've found the Evo X I've got to be much better than my other NP race sails.

fpw9082
QLD, 64 posts
28 Sep 2018 2:28AM
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EvoX is great sail but I dont understand why NP didnt introduce horizonatal battens long time ago...
In all past sails,when sail is raked ,airflow dont flow parallel to battens,that is not good. Sail produce more lift and has better efficienecy when airflow is parallel to chordline=battens.
I hope NP will continue with horizontal airflow battens in future..

When I look at picture and explanation on NP website I dont know why they explanation is that reduce skin friction because airflow dont colide in angled batten any more,this is true but has minor contribution compare phenomen what I describe above..



NP explain from website...





two raked/sweept sails with different chordline angle.

gorgesailor
113 posts
28 Sep 2018 4:38AM
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This is actually a very old idea & been done numerous times before. I used to have the Gaastra Flow F1 in 94 which had this "feature". Obviously the benefits were minimal compared to other design considerations - otherwise all sails would be this way. Nice refinement... Yes, but not going to make a huge difference IMHO...

Ben1973
117 posts
28 Sep 2018 5:32AM
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Severne has done the same with the M1 and overdrive, seems they you had the same idea at the same time

choco
SA, 3363 posts
28 Sep 2018 7:13AM
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Just make flat stiff battens problem solved

seanhogan
2954 posts
28 Sep 2018 12:00PM
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get a wingsail, problem solved

scottydog
204 posts
28 Sep 2018 11:05PM
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TurnBackTime said..
EvoX is great sail but I dont understand why NP didnt introduce horizonatal battens long time ago...
In all past sails,when sail is raked ,airflow dont flow parallel to battens,that is not good. Sail produce more lift and has better efficienecy when airflow is parallel to chordline=battens.
I hope NP will continue with horizontal airflow battens in future..


Kinda strange as I am sure NP did this way back to the VX LTD days and I thought they did have some angle on their battens. Perhaps they are just doing it more than before?

fpw9082
QLD, 64 posts
29 Sep 2018 1:28AM
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Who was desinger in those days,Barry Spanier?




scottydog
204 posts
29 Sep 2018 12:20AM
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yup Barry,

The VX didn't have the angle, but as the years went on they put more and more on them. Can see it on the original RS-1.

scottydog
204 posts
29 Sep 2018 12:33AM
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After the VX the LTD onwards got the angles

fpw9082
QLD, 64 posts
29 Sep 2018 4:04AM
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Look at evo9,evo10 head tip, similar as rs1,rx1rx2..Top batten above top of mast,very pointed look.

evo9

evo10

col5555
WA, 287 posts
29 Sep 2018 8:47PM
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TurnBackTime said..
Who was desinger in those days,Barry Spanier?






From the video it would appear the old sail is faster but I wonder if the wind conditions were a bit more patchy or in a racing environment with dirty air how it would fair.

my7thlife
40 posts
30 Sep 2018 7:38PM
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there you go...

new EVO's and FLIGHT's???








Sparky
WA, 784 posts
1 Oct 2018 1:46PM
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2 Nov 2018 2:12PM
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