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Quatro Cube 87/106 2020

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Created by Rob0104 1 month ago, 6 Aug 2020
Rob0104
68 posts
6 Aug 2020 4:26AM
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Hi all, thought I would share my opinions on my new wave boards, the Quatro Cube 87 and 106. I have previously reviewed the 2017 105 cube , 2019 supermini and the 2019 Pyramid 96. The one board I never mentioned was my 2017 85 cube. To be honest the 85 had become my favourite all time wave board, although it did have some minor faults if I am to be truly honest. It could be a bit bouncy in chop making it harder to carry speed and like a lot of older quad boards was a little sticky at getting planing. However, the 2017 Quatro quads were such great all round wave boards these were faults that were easy to live with . I changed my 105 to the second incarnation of the super mini as the earlier planing and extra speed were very desirable as most of the time I sailed it in onshore conditions and needed the extra drive a tri' fin setup provides. I've never had a chance to sail the 2018/19 quads so when the opportunity arose to have a rip on the 2020 106 I jumped at it. The first thing I noticed was the extra speed, earlier planing and ability to carry speed through chop and lulls better. So when my local supplier called me during the lockdown and asked if I was interested in selling my 85 as he had a buyer I decided to get both the 87 and demo 106 as a sort of lockdown blues buster. As luck would have it, our lockdown ended on a Wednesday, the day I picked up both boards. A storm passed that weekend giving me a chance to sail the 87 in both on and cross shore conditions. Like the 106 the 87 is faster, earlier planing and generally nicer to sail. This translates to a fairly potent combination for both jumping and wave riding. Straight off I feel I'm getting more air on my jumps due to the extra speed and control launching in shore break. When it comes to wave riding the Quatro Quads do not disappoint, their performance in both cross off and onshore only limited by my ability. Loads of grip at speed on the bottom turn and radical enough off the lip to satisfy most wave heads. Another benefit is my percentage of planing gibes is definitely higher a consequence of the board's ability to carry more speed in rougher conditions. I'm tempted to order the 98l version to keep at Cabezo as one board for all conditions, as I weigh around 86 kg I reckon the 98 should cover me from 4.2 to 5.7. I generally feel that with the modern quads around 10 litres over body weight is a good guide for one board for all conditions. Obviously the conditions, ability of the rider, rail shape and board width will affect this rough guide so please don't make a decision based solely on this. Overall I am so far pretty stoked with the new Cubes. Quatro have made the board a nice progression from the 2017 version and retained the wave DNA that their following expect in their boards. I don't want to wax on too much, but the new Cube is like the 2017 version on steroids. Hope you find my thoughts useful if you're interested in a new board. See you on the water, cheers Rob


philn
299 posts
6 Aug 2020 10:11PM
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Hi Rob, great to hear feedback on the new Cubes. I have the 2019 Supermini Thruster 103 L. What will I give up in onshore conditions to gain in cross shore conditions by switching to the Cube 106 L? I mostly sail cross onshore, with occasional onshore, occasional cross shore and once in a blue moon (less than once a year) cross off.

Rob0104
68 posts
7 Aug 2020 5:50AM
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philn said..
Hi Rob, great to hear feedback on the new Cubes. I have the 2019 Supermini Thruster 103 L. What will I give up in onshore conditions to gain in cross shore conditions by switching to the Cube 106 L? I mostly sail cross onshore, with occasional onshore, occasional cross shore and once in a blue moon (less than once a year) cross off.


Hi Philin, it's a tough call to recommend changing your Super Mini , I know how good it is in all conditions and just how much fun it is. If you had the older Mini I would definitely say to go for it. There is no doubt the new Cube will be better than the Mini in cross off conditions, plus Quatro have addressed issues like early planing , speed and sailing over chop which was a on going problem with older Cubes ,and indeed with most Brands Quad wave boards . I believe that it is this success which has led to Quatro dropping the Mini from their range. As you rarely get a chance to sail cross off you might benefit from trying different fins, I was running my 103 SuperMini on a 22cm K4 centre fin and 10 cm thrusters. The supplied MFC 21 and 10s also worked great, although it might be worth a go with a 21 scorcher and 9cm thrusters , for a 4.5-5.3 sail, bringing the centre fin well forward and widening the foot straps spread a bit should help the board turn a bit sicker in cross off. I tended to keep mast track fairly central , however it would definitely be worth playing about with it to get the sweet spot for cross off. cheers Rob

ursblank
28 posts
7 Aug 2020 3:26PM
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Hi Rob,
Thanks for the interesting review of the new Cubes! Have you ever sailed the 2014 Goya Custom Quads? If so, how do the new Cubes compare to them? I really like my old Goya quad because of its great allround behaviour which is why I still own it. But it's getting old...
Thanks, Philipp

Rob0104
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8 Aug 2020 12:52AM
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ursblank said..
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the interesting review of the new Cubes! Have you ever sailed the 2014 Goya Custom Quads? If so, how do the new Cubes compare to them? I really like my old Goya quad because of its great allround behaviour which is why I still own it. But it's getting old...
Thanks, Philipp



Hi urs, I have not tried the new Goya 4's although I had a rip recently on the Custom 3 in Cabezo on a biggish windy day. When I returned it to its owner, a real Goya fanatic we spoke at length about the new Custom 4 versus the older versions. He is of the opinion that the Yellow version was his favourite until now. It is widely accepted that the last Goya Quad, the green and black one felt small due to its narrow width, a lot of sailors were put off a bit because of this, despite the fact that in the waves it was a awesome performer. The upshot of this is , however , that Goya pulled out all the stops to make the Custom 4 the best Quad Goya have ever produced. This guy is a really top sailor and he cannot speak highly enough of them . I know if he were to answer your inquiry he would defiantly say to go for it. I don't want to mention his name but he is a guy who's opinion I really respect . Personally I feel that both Goya and Quatro plus a lot of other brands have (finally) got to grips with the multi fin concept and have been shaping the hulls a lot better over the last 5 years or so. Prior to this it seemed that a lot of boards were basically single fin hulls with extra fins stuck in. It stands to reason that Quads and Tri-fin boards should improve every few years (with the odd exception). If your budget stretches for the new 4 then go for it.
Cheers Rob

Nerdburger
NSW, 218 posts
10 Aug 2020 6:55PM
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My Quatro 98L quad turned up today, put it with an 5.8 Ezzy wave. Great looking board, wind was super gusty SW, 10/25 knots at Flat Top, woopi, NSW, so not ideal. I look forward to more sessions to get it dialed. Hopefully tomorrow when this southerly front settles in !!??


bigdaz
NSW, 263 posts
11 Aug 2020 8:07AM
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Nerdburger said..
My Quatro 98L quad turned up today, put it with an 5.8 Ezzy wave. Great looking board, wind was super gusty SW, 10/25 knots at Flat Top, woopi, NSW, so not ideal. I look forward to more sessions to get it dialed. Hopefully tomorrow when this southerly front settles in !!??



Niiice!!!! Look forward to hearing more about it after u have had a few sessions on it

Rob0104
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29 Aug 2020 5:32PM
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Nerdburger said..
My Quatro 98L quad turned up today, put it with an 5.8 Ezzy wave. Great looking board, wind was super gusty SW, 10/25 knots at Flat Top, woopi, NSW, so not ideal. I look forward to more sessions to get it dialed. Hopefully tomorrow when this southerly front settles in !!??



hi Nerdburger, looks awesome and love the graphics on your ezzy. Could you let me know how you're getting on with the board , as documented here I have the 87 and 106 to cover me for all Irish conditions, however I am trying to decide if the 98 would do as a one board for all conditions (4.2-5.7) at Cabezo in Tenerife .
cheers Rob

Nerdburger
NSW, 218 posts
31 Aug 2020 9:32PM
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Robo,


Mate I've only have 3 sessions on it so far in rubbish conditions, with work and a lack of decent wind of late. The two sessions I've have been gusty cross off, 12/25 knots and small swell and one cross on 15/18 knots. I used it with 5.5 & 5.8 ezzy waves. I'm 88/90 kgs, And an intermediate wave sailor.
Its fast, turns well, I like it, but haven't had enough variable conditions or a decent Waves yet to sail, really to get a proper feel for it. Hopefully the next 2 weeks heaps of sailing for me.
Ive got JP ultimate waves 94 and 102 L and the Quatro 98, could really be a one board option for me for 95% of my requirements wave sailing the Aussie east coast. I'll need a 90/94 litre wave board for the nuking east coast days and WA trips when sailing 4.5/5.0 weather I think. But I think the 98 cube from 5.0/5.5/5.8 sails to be ideal.I'd think 87/98 would cover all your requirements, 106 L must be huge for you weight, just my 2 cents ??

Rob0104
68 posts
1 Sep 2020 7:29PM
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Robo,


Mate I've only have 3 sessions on it so far in rubbish conditions, with work and a lack of decent wind of late. The two sessions I've have been gusty cross off, 12/25 knots and small swell and one cross on 15/18 knots. I used it with 5.5 & 5.8 ezzy waves. I'm 88/90 kgs, And an intermediate wave sailor.
Its fast, turns well, I like it, but haven't had enough variable conditions or a decent Waves yet to sail, really to get a proper feel for it. Hopefully the next 2 weeks heaps of sailing for me.
Ive got JP ultimate waves 94 and 102 L and the Quatro 98, could really be a one board option for me for 95% of my requirements wave sailing the Aussie east coast. I'll need a 90/94 litre wave board for the nuking east coast days and WA trips when sailing 4.5/5.0 weather I think. But I think the 98 cube from 5.0/5.5/5.8 sails to be ideal.I'd think 87/98 would cover all your requirements, 106 L must be huge for you weight, just my 2 cents ??


thanks Nerdburger for the feedback , here in Ireland we can get a lot of very gusty cross off conditions hence the 106, wallowing with a mast high set coming in stops being fun very quickly. I mostly sail with a 5.0 and simply drop down to the smaller board if the wind is solid enough. However I am planning on keeping a set of gear in storage at Cabezo so travelling will be a lot easier, the expense and hassle of flying with gear is off putting. My thinking is the 98 Cube being 60 wide will cope with almost all conditions and if I occasionally need something smaller hiring is possible there. I'm really interested in the top end of the 98 as I feel these boards cope well with smaller sails .
cheers

Nerdburger
NSW, 218 posts
4 Sep 2020 7:52AM
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Robo,


Ive had Great session in side shore and onshore, with 5.0/5.5/5.8 sail. Board planes early, handles chop well, jumps well, feels great on a wave, looks killer. Big fan. One board quiver for me if needed from 4.7-5.5 m, for our conditions. I haven't had it in serious dtl, but I believe it's more of an all rounder and than a dedicated dtl shredder, eg the Quatro pyramid.

Rob0104
68 posts
6 Sep 2020 2:44PM
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Nerdburger said..
Robo,


Ive had Great session in side shore and onshore, with 5.0/5.5/5.8 sail. Board planes early, handles chop well, jumps well, feels great on a wave, looks killer. Big fan. One board quiver for me if needed from 4.7-5.5 m, for our conditions. I haven't had it in serious dtl, but I believe it's more of an all rounder and than a dedicated dtl shredder, eg the Quatro pyramid.



Glad to hear you're getting on well with the cube. I've just had 2 cross off days , one on the 87 and the other on the 106. While it's fair to say they are not comparable with the Pyramid as a dedicated DTL board. Both boards rip extremely well in cross off conditions. The earlier planing and user friendly abilities of the cube translate to more wave rides in a session. I sold my 96 Pyramid for several reasons. The main one I feel was very physical to sail , I'm on the wrong side of 50 and am happy to forsake a slight downside of performance cross off for a more user friendly all rounder. There is no doubt that the Pyramid or similar is the way to go if physically and technically the sailor is up to speed, and most importantly have access to great conditions regularly to justify getting one. I have seen a lot of guys struggling with full on boards in waves if the wind isn't steady. I've also been amazed at what the Pyramid is capable of in the right hands so what do I know. Just my 2 cents.
I would still like to know the top end ability of the 98, ie would it handle 4.2 conditions. I could sail my 103 Super Mini down to 4.2 although I'm not sure my 106 cube would handle much below 4.7. Cheers Rob

Nerdburger
NSW, 218 posts
7 Sep 2020 7:45AM
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Robo, Im sorry my smallest sail is 4.7, and at 90 kgs, I can wave sail 25/30 knots. In the future I'll buy an Ezzy wave 4.5, to add to the quiver.
Bring my sails from 4.5 /5.0 / 5.5 Most used (5.8 if super light or blasting conditions), for my 98L.
If you could sail your super mini 103 down to 4.2, I'm sure the 98 cube could easily do it, again I believe it's less corky and thinner rails in the tail, and less volume etc.
Probably not ideal, but doable for a one board size, for your requirements and as a bonus, feels and sails like the rest of your quiver.

Rob0104
68 posts
15 Sep 2020 4:19AM
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I've just had 3 days cross off at Magheroraty, 2 on the 106 5.0 and 1 on the 87 4.2. On the 106 I had K4 16cm scorcher centre fins and 8cm shark sides. I am pleased to report that they preformed extremely well, fast, early planing and great on the wave. In fact I'm so impressed with the setup I've ordered 15 centres for the 87. For onshore I'm going to try 17cm scorchers and run the board as a twinser . If this works well I can also use the 16's on the 87 cube as a twinser in onshore conditions.
If the 106 cube needs a bit more zip on light wind days I'll swap the 8cm sides for 9cm , this should be enough extra lift for marginal 5.7 days. Watch this space as I'm extremely curious as to how my cubes will preform as twinsers.
cheers Rob


philn
299 posts
15 Sep 2020 11:41AM
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Should be a good experiment. Previous iterations of the Cube worked well as twinzers.

seabreezer
211 posts
16 Sep 2020 4:40PM
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Hey Rob .... I run a single concave quad with 15 skorchers / 8 fronts ezzy / 3 degrees .... Its the best fin set-up I found on that board ... SKorcher quad rears work amazing imo



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