Severne Enigma 170 / 180

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ashp
ashp
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20 Jun 2026 5:55am
I have the following sails
Severne Motos 5.2, 6.4 and 7.8
Severne Gator 6.5
Foil Glide 2 6.0 and 7.0

I have an Enigma 160 boom which all the above fit on. However I was toying with the luxury of getting another boom, quick kit swap in variable conditions or fin to foil gear etc

I had been keeping an eye out for a 170 boom but a 180 Enigma has come up locally at a decent price.

With the Moto 7.8 and Foil Glide 7.0 being 200+ and all the other sails (bar the small 5.2) having a boom size of 184-190 the Enigma 180 would rig them all.
Maybe over-boomed but looking at the spec sheet the weight of the 180 (2.68kg) is barely heavier than the 170 (2.61kg) so the swing weight might not be much different?

Would anyone with experience of enigma booms have any comment or reason to avoid the 180 and wait for a 170?
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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NSW, 8380 posts
21 Jun 2026 3:44pm
Is the diameter and clew end the same in both?

ashp
ashp
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21 Jun 2026 10:16pm
Well that is weird...
On a mobile, in the UK at least, when viewed in a normal orientation, the weights are as above and there's no significant difference between the 170&180.

I just turned the mobile into landscape to take a screenshot so everything was visible and the weights for all but two Enigma booms changed!! Making there almost half a kilo difference between the 170 / 180.








ashp
ashp
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21 Jun 2026 10:27pm
sboardcrazy said..
Is the diameter and clew end the same in both?



I have just went through the UK windsurf shop websites and the ones that have the weight of the enigma booms have the weights in my original post (2.61 and 2.68kg). So I am confused.

But they're meant to have the same grip diameter and I believe both have pulleys for adjustable outhaul

the 170 is an inside boom tail
The 180 is an outside boom tail
carbine
carbine
WA
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22 Jun 2026 2:19pm
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Searoamer
Searoamer
NSW
307 posts
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23 Jun 2026 1:39pm
ashp said..
I have the following sails
Severne Motos 5.2, 6.4 and 7.8
Severne Gator 6.5
Foil Glide 2 6.0 and 7.0

I have an Enigma 160 boom which all the above fit on. However I was toying with the luxury of getting another boom, quick kit swap in variable conditions or fin to foil gear etc

I had been keeping an eye out for a 170 boom but a 180 Enigma has come up locally at a decent price.

With the Moto 7.8 and Foil Glide 7.0 being 200+ and all the other sails (bar the small 5.2) having a boom size of 184-190 the Enigma 180 would rig them all.
Maybe over-boomed but looking at the spec sheet the weight of the 180 (2.68kg) is barely heavier than the 170 (2.61kg) so the swing weight might not be much different?

Would anyone with experience of enigma booms have any comment or reason to avoid the 180 and wait for a 170?


if a new 180, closer to the 170 in feel - the older 180 is a different animal, thicker and much more slalom feel
but Severne gear is great, they will all work well for your sails
KJ
KJ
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KJ KJ
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25 Jun 2026 8:53pm
Its the shape. Ive got 160, 170, 180.

The 180 is 3cm wider ( measured at the harness line position) . I like to use the 180 on my 7.8OD. I use the 170 on my 7.2 moto. The 160 on the 6.8 and 6.4.

The 170 and 180 are just as stiff as each other, however its the shape. As the sails get bigger you want more width for the greater shape in the sail and you want to be a bit further away from the sail. The 170 will work fine on the 7.8, however a 180 will be too wide on your other sails 6.5and below, however you have your 160 for that. If you want a optimal boom for your 7.8, go the 180, however if you want to use it as a back up on your 6.5 as well, the 170 would be the better option
ashp
ashp
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25 Jun 2026 7:49pm
Awesome, thank you for the feedback KJ!



KJ said..
Its the shape. Ive got 160, 170, 180.

The 180 is 3cm wider ( measured at the harness line position) . I like to use the 180 on my 7.8OD. I use the 170 on my 7.2 moto. The 160 on the 6.8 and 6.4.

The 170 and 180 are just as stiff as each other, however its the shape. As the sails get bigger you want more width for the greater shape in the sail and you want to be a bit further away from the sail. The 170 will work fine on the 7.8, however a 180 will be too wide on your other sails 6.5and below, however you have your 160 for that. If you want a optimal boom for your 7.8, go the 180, however if you want to use it as a back up on your 6.5 as well, the 170 would be the better option
Jasonwave
Jasonwave
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25 Jun 2026 9:05pm
I have the 160-210. Love it, especially on the 7,8 Moto. But regret not getting the next one up as the boom end is better for putting a variable outhaul system on, and would have given me more options for larger sails if ever …
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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26 Jun 2026 5:35pm
carbine said..
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I've just had Severne make me a custom 160 - 210 made with a 3D printed end for an adjustable outhaul. Love it!
I bought the next size up when they changed boom ends to a wave end.
I hated the bigger one. Boom diameter was too big and it was too heavy for me compared to the 160.
Jasonwave
Jasonwave
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170 posts
30 Jun 2026 11:05pm
sboardcrazy said..

carbine said..
www.severnesails.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/023_enigma_boom_overview_all_booms.jpg' />








I've just had Severne make me a custom 160 - 210 made with a 3D printed end for an adjustable outhaul. Love it!
I bought the next size up when they changed boom ends to a wave end.
I hated the bigger one. Boom diameter was too big and it was too heavy for me compared to the 160.


I would love to see this - photos possible ? And then who to contact at Severne ?
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8380 posts
NSW, 8380 posts
1 Jul 2026 9:22am
It looks pretty simple. I'm not at home atm I'll try to get some photos later today.
Talk to Ben.

AUS02
AUS02
TAS
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1 Jul 2026 5:02pm
I’ve got the 160-210, 170-220 (x2) and 180-230. I use the 180-230 with my 7.8 M4 OD, one of the 170-220’s with my 7.0m M4 OD and 6.2m MACH4 (as I use the same boom length with both those sails) and the other 170-220 with my small speed sails (and adjust length as necessary).

I’ve been using the 160-210 with wave sails and also for foiling with my 6.0m FoilGlide. I was wanting to use an adjustable outhaul when foiling, so have been using one of my 170-220 booms, but have just set my 160-210 up with an adjustable end (out of two broken ends – one from my 160-210 and one from my 170-220). Looks like it’ll work a treat! Just waiting on some outhaul lines now, as the ones I normally use won’t fit the thin arms of the 160-210.

All of these booms are super stiff, and I agree with KJ that it’s good to have the wider booms for the larger sails!

Will be keen to see the set-up Ben came up with for you Sue.











KJ
KJ
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KJ KJ
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1 Jul 2026 5:45pm
Another point I forgot to add; it is also relevant to board width. When you are using 7.8 and 8.6 you tend to be on 75cm+ wide boards. Your mast base is in the middle and you are positioned towards outer edge of the board, some 35-40cm from the centreline, hence a wider boom helps position you better.

I wave sail and have got wave sails from 4.2 to 5.7. With wave boards you are positioning your self as close to the centreline as possible, so you can rail the board over as much as possible. You don't want to be further out from the centreline.

I find my 150 boom is great for 4.7 to 5.7. A 160 feels weird on the smaller sails. The 5.7 is the cross over I find its ok with the 150 or 160
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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2 Jul 2026 8:36am
Sorry , I forgot.
Here are some pics.
I hadn't really thought about the end. It's still the narrower wave end.
I still prefer the lightweight and narrow grip. My earlier 160-210 had a wider end.
I like the lisa pulleys but they don't fit with the freeride sails. Gators etc have webbing around the clewhole and they can't fit through. I use applecores on a different boom for them.










Jasonwave
Jasonwave
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170 posts
2 Jul 2026 3:06pm
Thanks for the pics. Looks very sweet. I cant find Severne HQ contact and am dealing with the European side. Hope they can help.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
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NSW, 8380 posts
2 Jul 2026 7:12pm
Jasonwave said..
Thanks for the pics. Looks very sweet. I cant find Severne HQ contact and am dealing with the European side. Hope they can help.


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ashp
ashp
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4 Jul 2026 6:16am
Jasonwave said..
Thanks for the pics. Looks very sweet. I cant find Severne HQ contact and am dealing with the European side. Hope they can help.


If you have any joy, let me know - I'd be interested in getting one too
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8380 posts
NSW, 8380 posts
4 Jul 2026 9:52am
I just checked the boom and end widths between the original slalom end 160 - 210 and the custom one.
Looks like the only difference was the wave
end .
Now it's got the pulleys on the end .It's the same width all over and at the end.
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