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WindTech 287 (9'4") Prototype

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Created by CrimsonFlash 23 days ago, 12 Nov 2019
CrimsonFlash
WA, 19 posts
12 Nov 2019 6:15PM
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I've got to say upfront that I (and some other local Perth windsurfers) were a bit skeptical when we'd heard Neil Scheltema was thinking about making a 287 (9'4") long board. Most of the boards I've been using in recent years have been around 245 to 250cm max so I wasn't quite sure what to expect with something that was another 35+ cm longer than what I was used to. Let's just say that I was very pleasantly surprised when I took the proto 287 for a spin. Here's my take on it...

Dimensions: 287 x 61.5cm, Volume 130L

I'm a ~92kg sailor and the setup used was a 7.8 Loft Racing Blade and 34cm WindTech slalom fin. Had a couple of drag races across the channel near Pelican Point (Swan River, Perth) with some other sailors on current model Starboard iSonic and Carbon Art slalom boards and I was effortlessly keeping up on the 287. I found the board deceptively fast and with the long nose out front, it was eating the chop like it wasn't there. I felt like I was in cruise mode while the guys on the iSonic and Carbon Art boards were working hard to deal with the choppy river state (there were quite a few big sailboats around at the time that were kicking up some nasty chop out in the boat channel).

The volume distribution seems to work really well and the board has a really nice feel when out of back straps and going upwind. Plenty of meat in the rails allowed me to push really hard when heading up-wind and even with the small 34cm fin and a loaded 7.8 race sail it didn't feel like it was about to let go. Absolutely rockets upwind and like the Silver Bullets, I could achieve very deep angles off the wind and with total confidence and control. Anyone who has ridden one of the Silver Bullets will know what I mean about the levels of control and safeness that these boards offer.

I asked Neil why this board doesn't have the ATT fitted like the Silver Bullets and he said "Because of the narrower pintail and the boards forward footstrap and mast track positions including the lower rocker, it rides more on the hull/rail rather than off the tail like the Silverbullets. The ATT wouldn't be as effective and this isn't what this board is about anyway. Another factor is cost and we want to keep the price competitive on this model. The ATT is very expensive to put on the boards".

Gybing was best drawing longer curves rather than trying to snap it round like the shorter/wider boards. Also found the 287 easy to bear away on the swells - heaps of fun! Another cool feature is the recessed storage area just forward of the mast track. This will be good for storing flares, safety gear etc. when going offshore or during events.

In summary, the 287 proto was a pleasure to ride and ignores chop in all sailing angles where other modern wider boards would simply bounce out. Look forward to trying it in some nice ocean swells off Leighton beach or Cottesloe. Hopefully I won't have to wait too long for the production models to arrive! A big thumbs up from me and nice work Neil for yet another great design. I'm pretty sure the 287 is going to appeal to many old school sailors who remember the days of long boards and how much fun they were.

A couple of other local sailors had a bit of time on the 287 proto before it was finished off ready for production so guys if you're reading this thread, feel free to add your thoughts/feedback.

Cheers

azymuth
WA, 860 posts
12 Nov 2019 8:12PM
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CrimsonFlash said..
A couple of other local sailors had a bit of time on the 287 proto before it was finished off ready for production so guys if you're reading this thread, feel free to add your thoughts/feedback.






Ok, I'll add mine.

Simple - the board rocks, it's insane fun

I hadn't been on a regular board for more than a year and it was just so easy to get the board to fly, I felt super relaxed in the first 10 secs.

I didn't ride longer boards back in the day but I totally get it - all that nose upfront is so confidence-inspiring, point downwind and fly over the biggest chop wishing for more wind.

It was a pretty gusty day when I had a go and that's where the board really shines, gliding through the lulls noticeably easier than shorter boards.
Cranks big carving gybes and looks awesome too - the proportions are spot-on.

I reckon Neil knows a thing or two about board design

RichardG
WA, 2894 posts
12 Nov 2019 10:07PM
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I have a Strapper 9'4" Tom Luedecke World Cup Slalom model by Michael De Sciascio which is at my brothers house in Sydney. I am going to get it to Perth. Similar length but I am sure Neil's model will be better with the Tuttle Box and modern advancements in design. That said the longer boards get up to speed travel, glide and fly over the ocean and chop.

LeeD
926 posts
13 Nov 2019 5:53AM
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Yup, length is not bad.
Even in higher wind applications.
My old Naish 255's and JP 255's work as well but easier than my 227- 238 85 liter FSW's.

CrimsonFlash
WA, 19 posts
13 Nov 2019 5:47PM
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Another pic of the 287 at Melville WA after doing some comparison testing against the Silver Bullet 64 & 72. Couldn't stop grinning!!
This was with 34cm Windtech fin and 7.8 Loft Racing Blade. Nice combo and worked a treat.



Imax1
VIC, 2332 posts
13 Nov 2019 9:06PM
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Is there any tuck on the rails or is it square most of the way ?
What is the profile on the bottom , concaves ?

olskool
QLD, 1579 posts
13 Nov 2019 8:21PM
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I heard rumours of this beastie a few months back. Lets see it on the water. Any video footage of it in action?

CrimsonFlash
WA, 19 posts
14 Nov 2019 6:26AM
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Imax1 said..
Is there any tuck on the rails or is it square most of the way ?
What is the profile on the bottom , concaves ?


Plenty of tuck on the rails and makes for a very dry ride. No concaves!

CrimsonFlash
WA, 19 posts
14 Nov 2019 6:30AM
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olskool said..
I heard rumours of this beastie a few months back. Lets see it on the water. Any video footage of it in action?


Unfortunately my gopro was out of action so haven't got any footage for you. Will have to wait until the production models come in. Sorry

LeeD
926 posts
14 Nov 2019 7:14AM
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Lots of great 9'4" boards thru the years.
Seatrend 9'4"
Seatrend 9'5"..hit 44 mph at Ponds Speed Trials.
AHD 9'4"
Sputnik 285.
Mistral Energizer.
F2 Thommen 290.

choco
SA, 3475 posts
14 Nov 2019 10:30AM
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Slowboat has always been an advocate for longer boards

RichardG
WA, 2894 posts
14 Nov 2019 2:46PM
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Bombora Astrotoy is 285 cm
Bombora Xit is 282 cm
F2 Sputnik 285 (cm)
Bic Presto 280cm

All great boards in my collection. Then there was also the Bombora Astro Epoxy which was 295 cm.

Length is glide and keeps you tracking. Neil and Windtech understand board design and what most sailors really need everyday.

John340
QLD, 2009 posts
14 Nov 2019 5:33PM
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choco said..
Slowboat has always been an advocate for longer boards


His slalom boards are 249cm or 8'3" in the old money

Rob11
218 posts
14 Nov 2019 4:12PM
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CrimsonFlash said..
a 287 (9'4") long board
Dimensions: 287 x 61.5cm, Volume 130L


No matter how good, too long for transport, storage etc...
Also 5 footstrap positions, is this standard? Some brand only offer 2 even some just one.

Pacey
WA, 133 posts
14 Nov 2019 11:24PM
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Rob11 said..
No matter how good, too long for transport, storage etc...


Only if your board choices are determined by what fits in the back of a short wheel-base van.

LeeD
926 posts
15 Nov 2019 3:03AM
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Seems a lot of foilers choose foiling based on the short length of the newer boards.
They chose not to remember the Berky Spoons or Naish Slaloms which were around 217cm lengths.
As we all surely know, it's most important to fit all our gear inside a sub compact mini car.

choco
SA, 3475 posts
17 Nov 2019 8:39AM
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John340 said..

choco said..
Slowboat has always been an advocate for longer boards



His slalom boards are 249cm or 8'3" in the old money


True but longer than the standard 228cm from the OEMs

Ian K
WA, 3018 posts
17 Nov 2019 1:02PM
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LeeD said..
Lots of great 9'4" boards thru the years.
Seatrend 9'4"
Seatrend 9'5"..hit 44 mph at Ponds Speed Trials.
AHD 9'4"
Sputnik 285.
Mistral Energizer.
F2 Thommen 290.


Bic techno 283

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Bic-techno-283-love-help-me-understand-Go151?page=0

The beginning of the end was boom clamps. Windsurfers forgot how to tie knots. Maybe get a supper to show you how useful roof racks can be.



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