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iSonic 2019??

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Created by mark62 5 months ago, 6 Feb 2018
mark62
WA, 224 posts
6 Feb 2018 8:12PM
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Spotted these on FB. Not sure if they are current 2018 or 2019. It doesn't look like the current 2018 LCF balsa version so maybe the return of full wood/balsa/bamboo.......... for 2019???




AUS4
NSW, 892 posts
6 Feb 2018 11:33PM
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Might be teak

mark62
WA, 224 posts
7 Feb 2018 4:21AM
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AUS4 said..
Might be teak


It does look a bit like a ...........



But, timber construction will defo save my knees ??

JayWright
WA, 33 posts
8 Feb 2018 1:22PM
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Looks like they took inspiration from the interior of a new Range Rover.

Imax1
VIC, 1228 posts
9 Feb 2018 1:10PM
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If wood , bamboo or even teak is better for the knees because its softer , wouldn't it delam even easier ?

stehsegler
WA, 2896 posts
9 Feb 2018 11:50AM
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This could be a proto. Starboard is trying to reduce it's environmental impact. They are already making paddles from recycled bottles and I believe there is recycled material in their starlite SUP construction.The wood looks like it's bamboo.

bowsa
QLD, 504 posts
9 Feb 2018 2:37PM
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stehsegler said..
This could be a proto. Starboard is trying to reduce it's environmental impact. They are already making paddles from recycled bottles and I believe there is recycled material in their starlite SUP construction.The wood looks like it's bamboo.


Reduce carbon footprint by making new models every second season not every year... people keep gear longer, less waste. Year to year changes are so minimal with a lot of designs

Imax1
VIC, 1228 posts
9 Feb 2018 3:48PM
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By putting a layer of bamboo on a board to reduce the carbon footprint , what a load of crock , like that's going to make a difference . Like they really care , it just sounds good.

stehsegler
WA, 2896 posts
9 Feb 2018 6:22PM
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Imax1 said..
Like they really care , it just sounds good.


Don't know if they care or not but looking at this site I'd have to say at least they are starting the conversation:star-board.blue/No other brand at the moment really seems to give it any thought.

joe windsurf
1311 posts
9 Feb 2018 6:30PM
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feel like that subject requires more than just thought n words --> ACTION
for me windsurfing means a connection with nature - to be one with the board and the world
too often I am thinking about how I am on a piece of styrofoam, polystyrene, epoxy, plastic, etc
these are some of the WORST products on the planet
man used to live WITH nature
i often marvel how far we have gone away from that SPACE-X may look cool, BUT ...
we can do a LOT better than feeble attempts at making it look like wood

Imax1
VIC, 1228 posts
10 Feb 2018 9:15AM
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Its odd that if you do go for one of the eco versions they are more expensive. That to me says its more expensive to produce eco materials and therefore probably worse for the environment .
Being in the plastics industry , it would definitely take way more energy ( therefore worse for the environment ) collecting , transporting , cleaning , grading , separating , and adding additives to plastic bottles to make the plastic good enough to make a recycled sup paddle . And you would still have to add a percentage of virgin plastic.
All that to save half a kilo of plastic ?
As stated before , if they make a board slightly stronger they would last a lot longer , ( that's eco friendly ) , but that's the last thing they want.

Mikeptld
13 posts
17 Feb 2018 2:35AM
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mark62 said..
Spotted these on FB. Not sure if they are current 2018 or 2019. It doesn't look like the current 2018 LCF balsa version so maybe the return of full wood/balsa/bamboo.......... for 2019???






I can confirm you that 2019 isonics will be white!!!

Mikeptld
13 posts
17 Feb 2018 2:35AM
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mark62 said..
Spotted these on FB. Not sure if they are current 2018 or 2019. It doesn't look like the current 2018 LCF balsa version so maybe the return of full wood/balsa/bamboo.......... for 2019???






I can confirm you that 2019 isonics will be white!!!

mark62
WA, 224 posts
17 Feb 2018 2:55AM
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Do you know if they will be white with a wood construction option?

Mikeptld
13 posts
19 Feb 2018 9:19PM
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A starboard retailer is a friend of mine and he told me this, i dont have any further information sorry

Spocktek
WA, 269 posts
21 Feb 2018 2:42PM
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stehsegler said..

Imax1 said..
Like they really care , it just sounds good.



Don't know if they care or not but looking at this site I'd have to say at least they are starting the conversation:star-board.blue/No other brand at the moment really seems to give it any thought.


They do care, because they're ocean lovers just like us. And they all sail/sup and respect nature. It's not like any of the starboard dudes are getting mega rich from producing boards. It's done by enthusiasts for enthusiasts, unlike other forms of manufacturing.
Also none of the new boards will come wrapped in plastic, padded with styrofoam like most other boards.

Imax1
VIC, 1228 posts
21 Feb 2018 8:48PM
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^^^
I feel your want for a better environment .
I would think some at Starboard would care , as most of us do . But the money crunchers in the buisiness would not . If they really cared about the environment would it not make sense ( for earths sake ) to make boards last longer for the second hand buyers .. A tiny bit more at manufacturing level could half the amount of boards and pollution the earth needs , it's easy and cheap to do. Just the fact that they try to convince u that the newer model is sooo much better than the last , just cries for u to buy more boards . Bottom line no matter what they say is , buy , buy , buy , they even give the eco inclined an option . If the eco buyers don't buy the more expensive dolphin saving option they will stop making it .
When u say they are ocean loving dwellers like us , only a very small percentage actually are . Most of the entire industry that's needed to make a board wouldn't even get there feet wet , it's only for us rich folk . They just want a wage.
It is just another money making machine like everything else. Playing on conscience to get more sales.

Dont get me wrong I love unpolluted nature , but I just can't accept what they are trying to sell, sell , sell .

Al Planet
TAS, 1359 posts
22 Feb 2018 5:13PM
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If your average carbon footprint is 15 tons of CO2 per year then buying a new board that produces 80 to 100 kg of carbon and should last for 10 to 15 years (about 5 to 10 kg a year) is not so significant ( similar to a mobile phone which has a shorter life). Flying to Hawaii however might produce 2 to 4 tons of CO2. Even driving 2 hours to the beach is pretty significant. Apologies if my figures are a little wonky.

Al Planet
TAS, 1359 posts
22 Feb 2018 6:13PM
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Imax1 said..
^^^
I feel your want for a better environment .
I would think some at Starboard would care , as most of us do . But the money crunchers in the buisiness would not . If they really cared about the environment would it not make sense ( for earths sake ) to make boards last longer for the second hand buyers .. A tiny bit more at manufacturing level could half the amount of boards and pollution the earth needs , it's easy and cheap to do. Just the fact that they try to convince u that the newer model is sooo much better than the last , just cries for u to buy more boards . Bottom line no matter what they say is , buy , buy , buy , they even give the eco inclined an option . If the eco buyers don't buy the more expensive dolphin saving option they will stop making it .
When u say they are ocean loving dwellers like us , only a very small percentage actually are . Most of the entire industry that's needed to make a board wouldn't even get there feet wet , it's only for us rich folk . They just want a wage.
It is just another money making machine like everything else. Playing on conscience to get more sales.

Dont get me wrong I love unpolluted nature , but I just can't accept what they are trying to sell, sell , sell .


Not convinced that second hand buyers are guilt free when it comes to design/construction. My experience is that it is a lot easier to sell a super light carbon board than a solid epoxy construction, second hand. The customers drive the market where ever they are in the chain.

Imax1
VIC, 1228 posts
22 Feb 2018 7:35PM
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Al Planet said..

Imax1 said..
^^^
I feel your want for a better environment .
I would think some at Starboard would care , as most of us do . But the money crunchers in the buisiness would not . If they really cared about the environment would it not make sense ( for earths sake ) to make boards last longer for the second hand buyers .. A tiny bit more at manufacturing level could half the amount of boards and pollution the earth needs , it's easy and cheap to do. Just the fact that they try to convince u that the newer model is sooo much better than the last , just cries for u to buy more boards . Bottom line no matter what they say is , buy , buy , buy , they even give the eco inclined an option . If the eco buyers don't buy the more expensive dolphin saving option they will stop making it .
When u say they are ocean loving dwellers like us , only a very small percentage actually are . Most of the entire industry that's needed to make a board wouldn't even get there feet wet , it's only for us rich folk . They just want a wage.
It is just another money making machine like everything else. Playing on conscience to get more sales.

Dont get me wrong I love unpolluted nature , but I just can't accept what they are trying to sell, sell , sell .



Not convinced that second hand buyers are guilt free when it comes to design/construction. My experience is that it is a lot easier to sell a super light carbon board than a solid epoxy construction, second hand. The customers drive the market where ever they are in the chain.

I agree , the consumers have some push , and it's a rare consumer that wants to pay extra for a eco board .

mark62
WA, 224 posts
24 Feb 2018 8:03AM
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Found a couple of pictures of a 2019 proto iS147 (not the US147). Note the heel recess on the rear foot pads.



BSN101
WA, 1194 posts
24 Feb 2018 3:42PM
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mark62 said..
Found a couple of pictures of a 2019 proto iS147 (not the US147). Note the heel recess on the rear foot pads.




Still can't get a board bag to fit it properly.

sailquik
VIC, 3951 posts
22 May 2018 8:16PM
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Bring back 'Wood' construction Starboard.

I am still sailing three, near 10 year old, wood Isonics, and they are still perfectly sound. Contrary to many far newer 'Carbon' construction Isonics that I have seen that are completely trashed.

I don't think I will be purchasing a new Isonic if they can't offer me Wood construction.

mark62
WA, 224 posts
23 May 2018 1:06AM
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