AFS Silk V2

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foilthegreats
foilthegreats
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20 Jul 2026 8:43pm
Have my KT Dragonfly 7’ 100L mast placement at 12 on the Silk V2. V1 and Enduro was at 10. Feeling really great. Had the 1150 V2 out yesterday in some 1-2’ lake mush. What an awesome foil! Can whip around on the smallest little downhill and pull super tight carves on it. Really good glide and low end. Foil communicates stall incoming and you can easily pump out of it. Using the short fuselage with the USurf 150 in long position.
Velocicraptor
Velocicraptor
910 posts
910 posts
20 Jul 2026 10:29pm
foilthegreats said..
Have my KT Dragonfly 7’ 100L mast placement at 12 on the Silk V2. V1 and Enduro was at 10. Feeling really great. Had the 1150 V2 out yesterday in some 1-2’ lake mush. What an awesome foil! Can whip around on the smallest little downhill and pull super tight carves on it. Really good glide and low end. Foil communicates stall incoming and you can easily pump out of it. Using the short fuselage with the USurf 150 in long position.


I got the 1150 too. Was on the fence when I bought this foil, but I'm really glad I did. Super easy cruiser that can get spicy when the conditions permit. It has already gotten a lot of use on the suboptimal lightwind beachbreak days with the wing/parawing. For very mellow wind-driven downwinding with the UC140 it is super nimble and opens up the playing field for connections. Really glad to have it as a summer session saver and have had a lot of fun with it so far.
foilthegreats
foilthegreats
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824 posts
21 Jul 2026 10:38pm
Some fun Silk 1150 conditions:

foilthegreats
foilthegreats
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16 Sep 2026 8:23am
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foilthegreats said..
1050 V2 with USurf 150 feeling really good, keeps going forward in my tracks. Almost done dialling it in. Got on the 750 with USurf 120 the other day and it was awesome. Also keeps going forward in my tracks but getting it to where it needs to be. The V2 whip around so smoothly. Feels are just more smooth and predicable than V1. I feel like once I find perfect mast placement it will really be next level of fun:





Im still figuring out position in the tracks too, but its at least an inch forward of the v1s and enduros and maybe closer to 1.5".




I agree, way farther forward than what I was expecting. I also think maybe the new fuselage geometry is required. As I've seen myself breach the stabilizer a few times. The V2 seems to stabilize itself at the surface but that leaves the tail to breach easily in an aggressive maneuver. New fuselage geometry drops the stabilizer down farther keeping it out of the flow from the front foil and deeper in the water. I have my eye on the new titanium one, but that thing is $$$



So I finally broke down and purchased the titanium fuselage. What an impressive piece of bling bling. I noticed right away it pumps really well, a noticeable improvement. Also the new geometry of the titanium & advanced fuselage does feel more suited to the Silk V2 with the USurf stabilizer. Feels super smooth and less pitchy. The titanium fuse is super sleek and does feel like less resistance through the water. Pushing into a turn feels ultra solid with no funny business. Can’t wait to spend more time on this thing and get dialled right in. If you’re on the V1 fuselage and using Silk V2 worth checking out the advanced at least.






Velocicraptor
Velocicraptor
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910 posts
16 Sep 2026 9:21pm
foilthegreats said..

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Velocicraptor said..




foilthegreats said..
1050 V2 with USurf 150 feeling really good, keeps going forward in my tracks. Almost done dialling it in. Got on the 750 with USurf 120 the other day and it was awesome. Also keeps going forward in my tracks but getting it to where it needs to be. The V2 whip around so smoothly. Feels are just more smooth and predicable than V1. I feel like once I find perfect mast placement it will really be next level of fun:






Im still figuring out position in the tracks too, but its at least an inch forward of the v1s and enduros and maybe closer to 1.5".





I agree, way farther forward than what I was expecting. I also think maybe the new fuselage geometry is required. As I've seen myself breach the stabilizer a few times. The V2 seems to stabilize itself at the surface but that leaves the tail to breach easily in an aggressive maneuver. New fuselage geometry drops the stabilizer down farther keeping it out of the flow from the front foil and deeper in the water. I have my eye on the new titanium one, but that thing is $$$




So I finally broke down and purchased the titanium fuselage. What an impressive piece of bling bling. I noticed right away it pumps really well, a noticeable improvement. Also the new geometry of the titanium & advanced fuselage does feel more suited to the Silk V2 with the USurf stabilizer. Feels super smooth and less pitchy. The titanium fuse is super sleek and does feel like less resistance through the water. Pushing into a turn feels ultra solid with no funny business. Can’t wait to spend more time on this thing and get dialled right in. If you’re on the V1 fuselage and using Silk V2 worth checking out the advanced at least.








I ride the carbon advanced fuse. I compared the titanium to carbon side by side and they were pretty much identical in terms of shape, diameter, etc... Inspected them pretty closely and couldn't really eyeball any differences other than weight. Im sure theres a difference in stiffness, but curious how "perceivable" it is and how it manifests in feel. Putting material aside, I agree that the difference in dims (mast to foil and tail angle) between the Advanced and the standard is noticeable and the Advanced definitely improves efficiency (more glide, smoother and better pump).
foilthegreats
foilthegreats
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824 posts
17 Sep 2026 11:25am
Velocicraptor said..

foilthegreats said..


foilthegreats said..




Velocicraptor said..





foilthegreats said..
1050 V2 with USurf 150 feeling really good, keeps going forward in my tracks. Almost done dialling it in. Got on the 750 with USurf 120 the other day and it was awesome. Also keeps going forward in my tracks but getting it to where it needs to be. The V2 whip around so smoothly. Feels are just more smooth and predicable than V1. I feel like once I find perfect mast placement it will really be next level of fun:







Im still figuring out position in the tracks too, but its at least an inch forward of the v1s and enduros and maybe closer to 1.5".






I agree, way farther forward than what I was expecting. I also think maybe the new fuselage geometry is required. As I've seen myself breach the stabilizer a few times. The V2 seems to stabilize itself at the surface but that leaves the tail to breach easily in an aggressive maneuver. New fuselage geometry drops the stabilizer down farther keeping it out of the flow from the front foil and deeper in the water. I have my eye on the new titanium one, but that thing is $$$





So I finally broke down and purchased the titanium fuselage. What an impressive piece of bling bling. I noticed right away it pumps really well, a noticeable improvement. Also the new geometry of the titanium & advanced fuselage does feel more suited to the Silk V2 with the USurf stabilizer. Feels super smooth and less pitchy. The titanium fuse is super sleek and does feel like less resistance through the water. Pushing into a turn feels ultra solid with no funny business. Can’t wait to spend more time on this thing and get dialled right in. If you’re on the V1 fuselage and using Silk V2 worth checking out the advanced at least.









I ride the carbon advanced fuse. I compared the titanium to carbon side by side and they were pretty much identical in terms of shape, diameter, etc... Inspected them pretty closely and couldn't really eyeball any differences other than weight. Im sure theres a difference in stiffness, but curious how "perceivable" it is and how it manifests in feel. Putting material aside, I agree that the difference in dims (mast to foil and tail angle) between the Advanced and the standard is noticeable and the Advanced definitely improves efficiency (more glide, smoother and better pump).

This is what AFS says: The full titanium construction brings 30% greater stiffness over carbon, with twice the density, translating directly into stabilizing inertia at high speed and in demanding conditions. The slimmed profile cuts drag by 23% through reduced wetted surface area, while the redesigned nose entry minimizes flow disruption at the front of the fuselage.

I haven’t seen an advanced in person but from what AFS says the titanium is slimmer overall. Thickness at 27mm vs 32.5mm for the advanced.

To me it just feels stiffer, less of that laggy wait for your foil to catch up or get away from you feeling.

JB69
JB69
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7 Oct 2026 6:11pm
Late to this thread, but it has the most careful set of V1 against V2 reports I've seen anywhere, so here is what they say when you put them through a model. Background: I've been building a free Onshape tool that designs hydrofoil wings and runs a performance sweep on them, and I modelled the Silk V2 range off AFS's published numbers and renders. AFS don't publish their sections, so those are guesses, and everything below is steady-state, flat water, wing and stab only. Treat it as arithmetic on your reports, not as a ride report.

How it was done, since "a model" can mean anything: the tool's performance maths (lifting line for wing and stab, trim about the balance point, section polars from XFoil) also exist as a Python twin that runs a flight solution in milliseconds, checked against the Onshape original to within 1 % on drag, glide and balance. For this post it compared 24 wing-and-rider combinations (the six V2 sizes and the two V1 sizes with published numbers, each at 85, 97 and 100 kg) and 11 stab and fuselage set-ups on the 1050, about 2,100 trimmed flight solutions in all, each size's minimum speed found by bisection. Behind that sits the tuning of the 1050 + U Surf 135 set itself: about a thousand sweeps the first time and 69,000 parameter sets in a rerun at the lower turbulence levels water has, which is where the "half its lift limit" usable-speed rule came from.

1. The 950 V2 against the 1050 V1 low end. Labskaus and Velocicraptor say the 950 V2 drops off earlier than the 1050 V1; Jeroensurf says the 1050 V2 is at least as good as the 1050 V1; PWDW says the 750 V2 has the 850 V1's low end. All three are the same statement: the low end goes with area, not with the version. Same area, same minimum speed, within what a different section could change. Each 100 cm² step is worth about half a knot. At 97 kg the model's minimum usable speeds (where the most loaded part of the wing is at about half its lift limit, which is where a previous rider's GPS put the point a tubercled Silk starts to sink) come out as 750: 12.1 kn, 850: 11.4, 950: 10.8, 1050: 10.2, 1150: 9.8. At 100 kg add 0.2. So if you want the V1 1050's low end in a V2, it's the 1050, and the 950 gives it away for glide. Jeroensurf's call to keep the cm² rather than the span is the right one for the low end.

2. The speed. Jeroensurf's 2 to 3 km/h higher average and top, sunsetsailboards' 1 to 2 kn over the V1 850: the plan form change on its own (AR 8 to 9 at the same area) does not give you that. In the model it is worth about 5 % of glide at 20 km/h and nothing at 30. So the top-end gain you are all feeling is coming from the section, the smaller tails you moved to, or the new fuselage geometry, and that is useful to know when choosing between the V1 fuselage and the Advanced.

3. Jeroensurf's tail comparison on the 1050 V2 is a nice test, because the three U stabs have almost the same area times arm, so a symmetric stab would trim the same in all three cases. What separates the U Carve is its section. An owner on another forum described it as flat on one side, which means it is cambered, and AFS's own page says the camber was tuned. A cambered tail mounted flat side down lifts, and a lifting tail does three things at once: moves the balance point back (your mast 1 to 2 cm forward), cuts the pitch stiffness (your "sensitive in pitch"), and adds glide (your "a bit more glide"). With a stand-in section of about 2 % camber the model gives 25 mm, a static margin a fifth of the U Surf's, and two points of glide, which is your report in order; the size of each depends on the real camber, which I don't know, but the directions don't. The other way up it would do the opposite of all three, so your report also says which way the camber faces.

4. The mast an inch further forward on the V2 with the same tail. That one the model does not explain: a V1 1050 and a V2 1050 balance within a couple of millimetres of each other relative to their own quarter-chord line. So the shift is in where AFS put the mount hub relative to the lift, not in the shape of the wing. If anyone has a V1 and a V2 of the same size side by side, the distance from the leading edge at the centre to the front of the mount flat on each would settle it, and I'd gladly add it to the notes.

5. How it scored against this thread, since a model nobody here has seen should earn its place. I turned 26 statements in the thread into checks the model had to pass, each with a number and a tolerance. 15 it reproduces: the 950 V2 against 1050 V1 low end (both reports), the 1050 V2 matching the 1050 V1, the 1150 V2 having the 1050 V1's speed with more low end, the weight effect, Jeroensurf's light-wind session on the 1050, the V2's better glide at cruise, all three of Jeroensurf's U Carve observations, the U Glide at the same mast position, sunsetsailboards' small stab taking more attention, the short fuselage loosening things, and a 95 kg rider's minimum speed on the same wing from another forum. 6 it fails: PWDW's 750 V2 matching the V1 850's low end (the model has it 0.7 kn short), the V2's top-end speed gain, the U Glide having the most glide, the 1 cm mast move for the small U Surf (right stab effect, wrong size), the 750 V2 with the 135 feeling like the V1 850 with its 142 (close but outside my tolerance), and the V2 wanting the mast an inch forward of the V1. 5 it cannot address at all: pump drive, breach recovery, turning feel, mast stiffness and the new fuselages. The fails are the interesting part: four of the six point at the same two things the model doesn't have, the V2's real section and where the mount sits on the chord.

Caveat on all of it: steady state, flat water, the stall numbers are where the wing starts to run out, not where a good pumper gives up, and the sections are mine not AFS's.

If anyone wants the sweep for their own weight and size, say so and I'll post it.
PWDW
PWDW
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11 Oct 2026 3:11am
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foilthegreats said..


So I finally broke down and purchased the titanium fuselage. What an impressive piece of bling bling. I noticed right away it pumps really well, a noticeable improvement. Also the new geometry of the titanium & advanced fuselage does feel more suited to the Silk V2 with the USurf stabilizer. Feels super smooth and less pitchy. The titanium fuse is super sleek and does feel like less resistance through the water. Pushing into a turn feels ultra solid with no funny business. Can’t wait to spend more time on this thing and get dialled right in. If you’re on the V1 fuselage and using Silk V2 worth checking out the advanced at least.










I ride the short v1 fuse for everything (E1300 to S750v2) and really didn't get on with the standard fuse - too damped/stable/locked - but can you (or anyone else) comment on how the advance fuse compares to the short v1? It seems unrealistic to me that one fuse can replicate the feel of two, so should I be waiting for an advanced short to come out?
foilthegreats
foilthegreats
824 posts
824 posts
12 Oct 2026 12:22am
PWDW said..
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foilthegreats said..


So I finally broke down and purchased the titanium fuselage. What an impressive piece of bling bling. I noticed right away it pumps really well, a noticeable improvement. Also the new geometry of the titanium & advanced fuselage does feel more suited to the Silk V2 with the USurf stabilizer. Feels super smooth and less pitchy. The titanium fuse is super sleek and does feel like less resistance through the water. Pushing into a turn feels ultra solid with no funny business. Can’t wait to spend more time on this thing and get dialled right in. If you’re on the V1 fuselage and using Silk V2 worth checking out the advanced at least.















I ride the short v1 fuse for everything (E1300 to S750v2) and really didn't get on with the standard fuse - too damped/stable/locked - but can you (or anyone else) comment on how the advance fuse compares to the short v1? It seems unrealistic to me that one fuse can replicate the feel of two, so should I be waiting for an advanced short to come out?





The advanced and titanium fusuelage is 65cm the same length as the short: afs-foiling.com/product/fuselink-fuselage?srsltid=AU7gw4Vwh5VeUP_2K-5g2DhIXyZexfGQx5zqcPy9J_gtkIpgrc6Mo5aL


I went from short to titanium. I find it pumps much better and more glide. Find less pitching moments. Feels super solid. In my option it’s an upgrade all around. I am really happy and don’t plan to use the short again and will sell it. I use with Silk V2 750, 1050, 1150 & E1100, 1300 & 1600. I set mast about 2cm forward vs short.
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