Listening to the podcast on XFoils, Chris from F4 saying they won’t be there. Funny how the hottest thing re foils is kind of excluded due their marketing model. I guess no point having a stall at a dealer meet when you have no dealers.

airsail said..
Listening to the podcast on XFoils, Chris from F4 saying they won’t be there. Funny how the hottest thing re foils is kind of excluded due their marketing model. I guess no point having a stall at a dealer meet when you have no dealers.

The Kite Puerto Rico guys will be there and they are one of a very few f4 dealers in the US. They will be representing the brand to some degree and they have an event (“debuting” the f4 piranha) as well.

Try the Riift system & report back please

MProject04 said..

MeonAsh said..
In the UK F4 foils are a complete non event - if you want one you have to internationally import it, no opportunity what-so-ever to try one.
So it's a three grand punt to find out if it suits you or not - and then there's zero second hand market for them if you find it not to your taste or you picked the wrong front foil.
Those few things combined mean that the chances you even see someone on F4 is pretty much zero.


The videos are nice, the hype is lovely but as a brand it's just not here at all. I do wonder if Europe is the same.

Hypes come and go. There are lots of solid brands out there for us mere mortals without Maui conditions.

One reason I never looked at F4 seriously despite being based in EU was a story here on Seabreeze about a year or so ago of someone ordering their foils and receiving a box with a pile of parts..super poorly packed. There were some shocking looking pics I'm sure they improved ever since..

Anyway..back to topic 🙂

I have never seen any product packet so well as F4 foils.

I think it depends on your use case but if its riding bumps downwind then F4 don't need to market and the hype was created by the punters trying their foils. It was hard to ignore half of the Maui recreational downwinders changing to F4 just because they got to try it.
I had a demo on the 800 Orca with the 13mm mast and it immediately replaced my 1000 900 800 eagle x's. It took just one bump to understand the groundswell of support for these foils.
I sold 7 fone foils and I use 3 f4 foils to cover the same range for prone, tow and DW. The performance is real and yes I pay for my foils.

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I don't have any skin in the game but the interesting thing for me is that outside of the forums only one of my friends liked F4. Everyone else bought it and sold it pretty quickly. Even several out in the Maui realm. Not saying there isn't something that people are stoked on there, but I'm saying it's not universally loved for whatever reason. I'm wondering if the people who like it use it for a very specific scenario and if that's not your plan then it wont impress as much?

emmafoils said..
The newest and greatest parawings.

Will be hunting!

toppleover said..
Try the Riift system & report back please

I haven't done any e-stuff in forever but I'll check it out!

northy1 said..
Keen to hear about any new wingfoil related boards and products...new duotone, slingshot, fone, army, appletree

If anything catches my eye I'll let you know!

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I'll also be attending AWSI and fighting Bryan & other attendees. Let me know who you all want me to fight.

Street rules Alon?

AWSI bouncers:

Yeah I don't know anyone in the Gorge with F4 orcas. One guy recently got the manta. I know there are people around with the Orca but noone that I see regularly at the beach.

I'm hoping North finally release a replacement for the SF series foils.

Been hearing that a SFv2 is imminent, hopefully will be released at AWSI. Please post any info once you've had a look about..!

BWalnut said..
I don't have any skin in the game but the interesting thing for me is that outside of the forums only one of my friends liked F4. Everyone else bought it and sold it pretty quickly. Even several out in the Maui realm. Not saying there isn't something that people are stoked on there, but I'm saying it's not universally loved for whatever reason. I'm wondering if the people who like it use it for a very specific scenario and if that's not your plan then it wont impress as much?

emmafoils said..
The newest and greatest parawings.

Will be hunting!

toppleover said..
Try the Riift system & report back please

I haven't done any e-stuff in forever but I'll check it out!

northy1 said..
Keen to hear about any new wingfoil related boards and products...new duotone, slingshot, fone, army, appletree

If anything catches my eye I'll let you know!

I’m really surprised to hear that.
There’s a real hype around F4. I’m seeing the complete opposite, everyone who tries them switches to F4.
I’ve tried the Mantas and absolutely loved them.

For me the hype is not coming from the forum or even Facebook and instagram. It’s the shear numbers of serious recreational dw foilers who tried f4 and never looked back.

The tide of Maui f4 conversions is unlike any other brand to date in hype. It’s not just Maui. If someone who downwinds seriously and they try it they can’t stop talking about it.

The comments on the mast make no sense either Bryan. 13mm RC crazy stiff. Or 11 or sr if your after efficiency and stiff

AnyBoard said..
For me the hype is not coming from the forum or even Facebook and instagram. It’s the shear numbers of serious recreational dw foilers who tried f4 and never looked back.

The tide of Maui f4 conversions is unlike any other brand to date in hype. It’s not just Maui. If someone who downwinds seriously and they try it they can’t stop talking about it.

The comments on the mast make no sense either Bryan. 13mm RC crazy stiff. Or 11 or sr if your after efficiency and stiff

+1

Just got word that a brand was spotted in town using the one piece of gear I'm 99% sure I'll buy. Not gonna name it until its actually presented but for the first time I'm actually really stoked to try something at AWSI! Hopefully there is wind!