Armstrong Performance Mast Sizes

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Oahuwaterwalker
Oahuwaterwalker
WA
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WA, 296 posts
6 Nov 2022 4:09am
I know I've been wondering what they would be offering besides the 93cm and finally found out today.

They are releasing an 80cm, 93cm, and 101cm (I think 101, not 100).

As someone who has been using the 85cm, I decided to go ahead with the 93, should have it in the next two weeks.
Windoc
Windoc
460 posts
460 posts
6 Nov 2022 6:27am
Thanks for the heads-up! I was hoping for another 85 mast as it seems a great winging size. I'll probably go for the 93 too. Post up a report ASAP pls! Any news on the MA foils as well (sizes and when available to order)?
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
6 Nov 2022 6:43am
80cm. Perfect.
MidAtlanticFoil
MidAtlanticFoil
858 posts
858 posts
6 Nov 2022 7:07am
I'm pretty happy with these sizes. Proning today for the first time in a few months on a 72cm, I realized that it's just too short for waves over waist high (at my skill level at least). 80cm seems like a good upgrade, as when I tried 85cm previously it felt a hair to long. I'm not going to personally buy the 80 for some time.
For Wing, I've also got the 93 on order as well. I recently got my 100cm back in the rotation with the 925 and 725 for the first time and had a blast. Set a personal best speed and had a ton of fun dw bump riding in chest high tightly packed swell. No chance of a breach. The 93 with the stiffer build, faster, and better turning section, should be the Goldilocks! It will also open up better control of the 925+ wings.
north_kiter
north_kiter
NSW
233 posts
NSW, 233 posts
6 Nov 2022 10:28am
and with the Alchemy adapter, 1 mast to ride with other brands too, no need for cedrus or nolimitz now.

Has anyone used the Alchemy adapter with Takuma, is it good?
paulweller2
paulweller2
151 posts
151 posts
6 Nov 2022 1:18pm
@Oahu: Perfect. I'll get the 93. I'm on Maui. Is there a dealer on Oahu that's taking pre-orders?
Oahuwaterwalker
Oahuwaterwalker
WA
296 posts
WA, 296 posts
6 Nov 2022 1:37pm
paulweller2 said..
@Oahu: Perfect. I'll get the 93. I'm on Maui. Is there a dealer on Oahu that's taking pre-orders?


Hawaiian Watersports in Kailua should have another one coming in.
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
6 Nov 2022 1:39pm
MidAtlanticFoil said..
I'm pretty happy with these sizes. Proning today for the first time in a few months on a 72cm, I realized that it's just too short for waves over waist high (at my skill level at least). 80cm seems like a good upgrade, as when I tried 85cm previously it felt a hair to long. I'm not going to personally buy the 80 for some time.
For Wing, I've also got the 93 on order as well. I recently got my 100cm back in the rotation with the 925 and 725 for the first time and had a blast. Set a personal best speed and had a ton of fun dw bump riding in chest high tightly packed swell. No chance of a breach. The 93 with the stiffer build, faster, and better turning section, should be the Goldilocks! It will also open up better control of the 925+ wings.


Yeh that's it. The 72 can be too short in certain codnrions unless your a gun - and the 85 (which is all I use) whilst great to wing - is difficult to keep it high enough for power when pumping.
paulweller2
paulweller2
151 posts
151 posts
6 Nov 2022 3:14pm
Oahuwaterwalker said..

paulweller2 said..
@Oahu: Perfect. I'll get the 93. I'm on Maui. Is there a dealer on Oahu that's taking pre-orders?



Hawaiian Watersports in Kailua should have another one coming in.


Thanks a lot--will give them a ring.
Styx
Styx
QLD
3 posts
QLD, 3 posts
9 Nov 2022 2:09pm
Foilnut said..
Just picked up the new mast this afternoon from our local shop. I put the 93.5 beside my 85 V1. Mast bolts now M7. Looking forward to getting this on the water.






Interesting that the M7 countersunk bolts don't have the titanium load spreading plates any more.
Sonsaleta
Sonsaleta
82 posts
82 posts
9 Nov 2022 1:07pm
Styx said..

Foilnut said..
Just picked up the new mast this afternoon from our local shop. I put the 93.5 beside my 85 V1. Mast bolts now M7. Looking forward to getting this on the water.






Interesting that the M7 countersunk bolts don't have the titanium load spreading plates any more.



Is it thinner or thicker than the old one?
FarNorthSurfer
FarNorthSurfer
194 posts
194 posts
10 Nov 2022 3:28am
Definitely don't need a new mast, until I saw it and as if by magic I really need a new mast.
Guess the 95 would be a replacement for my 85 winging.
Apart from the shape and stiffness benefits it looks like it will mount the foil just that little bit further forward in my Patrik AIO which would be nice, and hey it's cheaper than a new board, maybe.
Is the change to 7mm because there have been issues with 6mm or just making the assembly stiffer I wonder.
MidAtlanticFoil
MidAtlanticFoil
858 posts
858 posts
10 Nov 2022 3:56am
Sonsaleta said..

Styx said..


Foilnut said..
Just picked up the new mast this afternoon from our local shop. I put the 93.5 beside my 85 V1. Mast bolts now M7. Looking forward to getting this on the water.






Interesting that the M7 countersunk bolts don't have the titanium load spreading plates any more.




Is it thinner or thicker than the old one?


Received mine. My caliper isn't Very deep, but upon comparison, the front of the new mast is thicker, but the trailing edge is thinner. Measurements taken around an inch deep.
the 935 is 1 lb heavier than my 85 (inside covers).
She's a beaut!
paulweller2
paulweller2
151 posts
151 posts
10 Nov 2022 5:54am
Can't wait to receive my 935. How's the tolerance with the fuse?
Foilnut
Foilnut
182 posts
182 posts
10 Nov 2022 6:21am
paulweller2 said..
Can't wait to receive my 935. How's the tolerance with the fuse?


Like a glove ;o)

Anybody know what is with the rainbow colored fasteners?


MidAtlanticFoil
MidAtlanticFoil
858 posts
858 posts
10 Nov 2022 6:47am
Foilnut said..

paulweller2 said..
Can't wait to receive my 935. How's the tolerance with the fuse?



Like a glove ;o)

Anybody know what is with the rainbow colored fasteners?



Mine fits insane as well. The stainless torx key with Armstrong is the best part of the kit so far. I had scowered the internet for one a while back.
paulweller2
paulweller2
151 posts
151 posts
10 Nov 2022 7:22am
Great. Thanks!
Foilnut: I received similar screws with the new WKT board. The rainbow color is know as neo-chrome and acquired when the SS screws/nuts are plated with chromium through a process called physical vapor deposition wherein titanium dioxide is used as a photocatalyst. The end result is improved corrosion-resistance and (probably) impact-resistance.
paulweller2
paulweller2
151 posts
151 posts
10 Nov 2022 7:27am
MidAtlanticFoil said..

Foilnut said..


paulweller2 said..
Can't wait to receive my 935. How's the tolerance with the fuse?




Like a glove ;o)

Anybody know what is with the rainbow colored fasteners?



Mine fits insane as well. The stainless torx key with Armstrong is the best part of the kit so far. I had scowered the internet for one a while back.


Thanks! The standard Armstrong T30 is pretty mediocre. I've been using a PB Swiss Tools T30 key--best on the market, IMO.
Windoc
Windoc
460 posts
460 posts
10 Nov 2022 11:33am
Get those things wet ASAP so we can hear the frothing! Now let's get those new MAs rolling out soon too, please!
paulweller2
paulweller2
151 posts
151 posts
10 Nov 2022 12:00pm
Getting my mast on Friday. In the water Friday afternoon. Will report back!
HubDekkers
HubDekkers
49 posts
49 posts
10 Nov 2022 2:33pm
The rainbow screws also came with the WKT board. To my understanding they are stainless steel screws with a titanium coating that is anodized. This will prevent any coloring/staining of the stainless steel on the carbon.

Plus they look great! :)
Emmett
Emmett
NSW
99 posts
NSW, 99 posts
11 Nov 2022 12:08am
paulweller2 said..The stainless torx key with Armstrong is the best part of the kit so far. I had scowered the internet for one a while back.


Torx drivers. AU $4.50 each. But these will rust eventually: www.ebay.com.au/itm/191549035225
MidAtlanticFoil
MidAtlanticFoil
858 posts
858 posts
11 Nov 2022 6:02am
I've heard feedback from a few riders and supposedly the mast is much more efficient moving through the water thanks to a very refined section. Like if you dive the mast deep, the drag doesn't really increase much. Also more forgiving on turns. The better section also allows for easier takeoff in lighter winds.
it's not just a stiffer mast, you will notice it when going staight supposedly. Hopefully will be riding it next two days.
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
11 Nov 2022 7:30am
Yeh I remember the meeting we had with armie and he was trying to get that across. Just making a mast stiffer is only a small part of the design objectives.
marco
marco
WA
332 posts
WA, 332 posts
11 Nov 2022 11:12am
I will pick mine up today and report back.
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
11 Nov 2022 11:48am
Oooh yes please.
Oahuwaterwalker
Oahuwaterwalker
WA
296 posts
WA, 296 posts
11 Nov 2022 11:53am
Hoping to see mine next week. Around same time as the wind dies
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
12 Nov 2022 9:36am
795 and MA 1000 pre ordered. Now for the wait ...
Sonsaleta
Sonsaleta
82 posts
82 posts
12 Nov 2022 10:24pm
eppo said..
795 and MA 1000 pre ordered. Now for the wait ...


I pre ordered the 795 too but where I am no news about the MA wings. So finally which sizes will be available ? Do you have the specs? (Area and span).
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
13 Nov 2022 5:29am
Not sure to be honest. All I know is the 1000 is kinda your 925/1250 - 1225is kinda like your 1550 V2. So we are using that to gauge what size to order.

we saw in the flesh a 1225 and it had more surface area than the 1250 when overlayed onto it although there has been like 3-4 prototypes since then think.


600/800 as well. I know Oskar has mainly demoed the 800 at his light weight.
Sonsaleta
Sonsaleta
82 posts
82 posts
13 Nov 2022 6:05am
Thank you Eppo.
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