And here I am thinking the mono harness line is the best harness setup that I have used on a pw, I didn't like using a harness until I tried this setup

Good to have options, just a note to those thinking about using another harness setup the magic balance point is key. Needs to come off the inside of the D Handle for the magic to happen.

Yeah, Greg’s harness is great! Just want a shorter one and to have a cheaper option.

MidAtlanticFoil said..


👀 hollow


boardridingmaui.com/pages/board

$5339 Aud or $3757 USDfor a 4’10” !!! Looks good but also kinda looks like a fairly stock standard wing board. Yes the hollow construction is cool but who would actually fork out that much cash for fancy construction on a small compact board where swing weight isn’t really a problem anyway. At those dimensions it’s a good wind only board even for light weight riders. Using it only in good solid wind’s only further reduces the need for ultra light ultra expensive construction.


I fear Greg has indulged in too much of the Maui wowee and has taken a wrong turn on this one.

I experiences the same using an F-One Quest bar (the small one has the same distance between A's and brake lines as on the D-bar).
I use the F-One Quest harness line now which is much easier to hook in without having to look. Works great IF you attach it the same way the BRM mono line is attached. If you attach it just after the junction with the D part you are out of balance.
The D-bar is ergonimic but for me it is a pain taxiing, collapsing and redeploying. Even after 10 sessions on the 5,3 now.
I will try the S3 with a "T" bar to have the best of both world

Wanger.Issues said..
D Grip Bar (Shovel Handle) v. Straight Bar:

I am hoping that someone can give a better comparison than this since I don't yet have much time on my 3.4 and also...I'm not that good. I can't even tack yet (skateboard yes, but have not tried on the water yet). What motivated me to try the straight bar is how much I love flying one handed.

Straight bar pros:
- One handed flying (when on foil) was natural and comfy. I can put my hand right in the middle of the sweet spot.

Straight bar cons:
- In light wind it's hard to keep it out of the water when climbing on the board and getting to my feet and taxiing (compared to other parawings).

D grip bar pros:
- Awesome when powered up two handed unhooked
- Awesome when powered up one handed hooked in.
- The BRM harness line, the balance, the natural feel, all good.
- Improved wrist ergonomics, and not just when holding the padded part of the D. Also when holding the arms of the D. You get about 45 degrees less twist in your wrist when doing a downloop jibe, or a tack. (So far, I have only tacked on skateboard).
- Grabbing the far arm (over the top grip) (my friend calls it the puppet master grip) twists the bar and applies more tension on the upper A lines which seems to greatly improve light wind handling.

D grip bar cons:
- One handed flying. This was really annoying on day one, but as I adapt this seems to be getting closer to being equal but different. Time will tell.

Any tips on light wind handling would be appreciated. Like in a lull down to 8-10 mph. Pulling on the horizontal red line to get it to rise, and pulling on an outer A line to keep a tip from hitting the water are obvious...anything else?

Yeah pretty much agree with the cons. Toeside one handed doesn't really work with the D handle. Tacking is also a problem, for me at least, because I tack with my front hand. I'm now trying to learn with the back hand.

Hi. I'm thinking of buying S3 as my first parawing (I've never tried it before. But I have kitesurfing experience.) and I can't decide whether to go for 5.3 or 4.2 size. Could you help, please?

I ride the KT Ginxu Dragonfly 2 Pro Carbon ( 110L ) with a 1305 Duotone Glide. Conditions on our lake vary, but I intend to use the parawing at around 15 knots (which usually means ~20 knot gusts) on my local lake. In such conditions, I use the Duotone Unit 3.5. My weight is 85 kg, I do gybes (regular/switch stance), pump with legs when needed (wind luls, faster start).

Reading through this thread has made me lean more towards 4.2, mainly because I have an effective board that I can pump and I can upsize the foil (I have a 1595 Glide and a 2195 pump foil). I'm concerned that 5.3 would be with my setup easily overpowered. But that's just a guess.

CFL Foiler said..
Greg's wind range charts are accurate. Make your decision based on the chart for sure. If you think your typical wind range is going to be 15 with gusts to 20 I would vote for the 4.2. The 5.3 can be ridden in those conditions, its actually just sheet and go in those conditions, but you will be very lit and probably not ideal for learning. The 4.2 is much easier to manage size wise and they all can be pumped well which is similar to a wing.

I love my 5.3 though. Its awesome for 10-15 conditions. Its a rocket ship in 15-20, still fun but probably a bit much for learning. I am so happy with the wind range that I actually skipped a size and went with the 3.2 for my next size down.

You skip all the way to the 3.2 Kanaha?

I have the 3.4 S3 and am considering skipping the 4.2 and getting the 5.3 for 10-17 mph. How does the 5.3 handle the lulls in gutless, humid, warm wind? And how does it wad / pack? I am sure it will feel massive, but compared to an aluula inflatible 5m wing that I would otherwise use in these conditions, the S3 would be way lighter and half the price.

For the reverse hook users out there, here’s my latest, smallest loop solution. I used the shortest BRM loop and fed it back though the end loops and back over itself. Basically halved its length.

Installing the straight bar was easy. Then switching back to the D handle took me about 2 hours to get it right. The tricky part was to get the split A lines to come off the bar with no twists.

Had a good session yesterday. Liking the D handle more, gonna stick with it. Over-the-top grip with back hand to get on the board and get to my feet, then once I get moving and feel a puff, switch to two handed grip and pump.

Has anyone had trouble with their batons getting deformed from stashing in the vertical pouch?


I just picked up a used 4.2 with vertical pouch and it barely fits in. The video Greg put out shows him smashing his wing into the pouch which sounds horrible for the battens.


anybody have good reference videos of quick stows, vertical pouch stow techniques etc? Curious how y’all are doing it.


I like how foilthegreats pulls all lines in his douse and just wraps the lines around the bundle. Whereas most other people I just see A line dousing

CFL Foiler said..
Greg's wind range charts are accurate. Make your decision based on the chart for sure. If you think your typical wind range is going to be 15 with gusts to 20 I would vote for the 4.2. The 5.3 can be ridden in those conditions, its actually just sheet and go in those conditions, but you will be very lit and probably not ideal for learning. The 4.2 is much easier to manage size wise and they all can be pumped well which is similar to a wing.

I love my 5.3 though. Its awesome for 10-15 conditions. Its a rocket ship in 15-20, still fun but probably a bit much for learning. I am so happy with the wind range that I actually skipped a size and went with the 3.2 for my next size down.

Thanks! By the way, Greg has added a new range for light wind conditions: boardridingmaui.com/pages/l1-parawing

BRM L1 6.5 review. Rode it twice in the light wind it was designed for. Topanga in Los Angeles. Today there were waves to ride too.
Thing is good. Riding a 60L board and I got up in 12-15 MPH wind consistently.
The thing just wants to fly. It get’s off the water easily. If you hold the D handle with 1 hand it just naturally goes to the 12 o’clock position and waits there for you. I would fall off and be in the water, just held onto the front of the d handle with one hand and it would patiently just float above me and help lift me back onto the board.
The thing is huge, but if you drag a wingtip going over chop, the wingtip just kind of bounces off the water. It doesn’t drag and throw you in the water like an inflatable hand wing would.
Jibing is the same as any other parawing. If you can keep tension in the lines, it’s no harder than others.
It sits deeper in the window which is why you get extra low end and grunt to get up. But that also means you will definitely need to hook in to drive it upwind. I figured out the angles a bit better today. So I would say it took me 2 sessions to figure out how to go upwind properly. It’ll probably get better too with more sessions.
The D handle also keeps the thing from tangling really well. I didn’t have a single tangle today. I was going with A line stows. You have to look at the handle to separate the A lines and gather both sides together since they are attached on each side of the D handle.
Redeploying wasn’t too bad. It’s so big you can’t just throw it out. You have to look for the blue marks on the leading edge and spread it out a bit to get some wind in the sail. I had quite a few stash, ride wave, successful redeploys today. That will get better with time too I’m sure.
So my only complaint is not really a complaint since I always hook in anyway. As long as you use a harness it’s a great parawing for our light wind wave spots.
Thanks go out to Frankie for grabbing a demo for us in LA. If anyone wants to try it, it’ll be floating around Malibu for awhile.