Duotone '24 Unit (DLab)

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Robert211
Robert211
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51 posts
4 Sep 2023 5:21pm
The 2024 Doutone Unit (DLab) is coming. Looks like a smaller leading edge and bigger front handle (as also on the Ventis).






















baldy123
baldy123
WA
459 posts
WA, 459 posts
4 Sep 2023 7:21pm
The new Dlab colour way looks tasty..

Thatspec
Thatspec
446 posts
446 posts
4 Sep 2023 10:18pm
Looks like the same useless floppy LE handle
leepasty
leepasty
424 posts
424 posts
6 Sep 2023 3:59am
Thatspec said..
Looks like the same useless floppy LE handle


Nothing wrong with the front handle on the slick v3 so reckon it's good on the new unit ??
531 posts
6 Sep 2023 4:28am
my rep told me as a Lakers fan I was gonna like the new colors
Goofcat
Goofcat
272 posts
272 posts
6 Sep 2023 7:09am
sunsetsailboards said..
my rep told me as a Lakers fan I was gonna like the new colors


As a Laker fan, I'm seriously considering that board!
Thatspec
Thatspec
446 posts
446 posts
6 Sep 2023 9:06am
leepasty said..


Thatspec said..
Looks like the same useless floppy LE handle




Nothing wrong with the front handle on the slick v3 so reckon it's good on the new unit ??



I'd have to look at a V3 Slick but the LE handle looks like an afterthought on every Duotone wing I've ever seen. I'd put up with floppy main handles if they went to a stiff carbon handle for the LE. Pretty much every other manufacturer does it better. Duotone wings really prioritize "sailing" with downwinding and wave riding as a very distant secondary use. Certainly looks like a great sailing wing but that's not why I wingfoil.

Surprised to see one of the yellow/purple wings out today and it had much more muted colors than in the pictures.
pumpnjump
pumpnjump
WA
265 posts
WA, 265 posts
6 Sep 2023 10:19am
And Duotone still don't include a pump adapter!! Just displays a complete contempt for the customer, you have a non industry standard valve and don't think a part that would cost you less than a dollar to produce isn't something that you should include!! I wish I could find a wing I liked as much as my D labs as this is something that makes me want to buy another brand.
rmitch
rmitch
23 posts
23 posts
11 Sep 2023 3:00am
Thatspec said..

leepasty said..



Thatspec said..
Looks like the same useless floppy LE handle





Nothing wrong with the front handle on the slick v3 so reckon it's good on the new unit ??




I'd have to look at a V3 Slick but the LE handle looks like an afterthought on every Duotone wing I've ever seen. I'd put up with floppy main handles if they went to a stiff carbon handle for the LE. Pretty much every other manufacturer does it better. Duotone wings really prioritize "sailing" with downwinding and wave riding as a very distant secondary use. Certainly looks like a great sailing wing but that's not why I wingfoil.

Surprised to see one of the yellow/purple wings out today and it had much more muted colors than in the pictures.


Yes I agree. I'm really disappointed that they have not addressed their pathetic, limp, twisty, front/flagging handle since 2022! It's the one thing I really dislike about my Units when i compare to other brands. What is the reluctance to make a stiff, direct control flag handle? Thinking of getting a Cabrinha Mantis for my next wing in the quiver even though I'm all Duotone Units. Fix it Duotone!
leepasty
leepasty
424 posts
424 posts
11 Sep 2023 3:24am
rmitch said..

Thatspec said..


leepasty said..




Thatspec said..
Looks like the same useless floppy LE handle






Nothing wrong with the front handle on the slick v3 so reckon it's good on the new unit ??





I'd have to look at a V3 Slick but the LE handle looks like an afterthought on every Duotone wing I've ever seen. I'd put up with floppy main handles if they went to a stiff carbon handle for the LE. Pretty much every other manufacturer does it better. Duotone wings really prioritize "sailing" with downwinding and wave riding as a very distant secondary use. Certainly looks like a great sailing wing but that's not why I wingfoil.

Surprised to see one of the yellow/purple wings out today and it had much more muted colors than in the pictures.



Yes I agree. I'm really disappointed that they have not addressed their pathetic, limp, twisty, front/flagging handle since 2022! It's the one thing I really dislike about my Units when i compare to other brands. What is the reluctance to make a stiff, direct control flag handle? Thinking of getting a Cabrinha Mantis for my next wing in the quiver even though I'm all Duotone Units. Fix it Duotone!


They changed it on the slick v3 and it's the same on the new units. stiffened up with extra webbing on the connection to the le
rmitch
rmitch
23 posts
23 posts
11 Sep 2023 4:06am
@Leepasty have they really in the 24' Units, have you seen them/tried them? It would be great if they have, you would have thought they would have made that a notable feature improvement, there's nothing said about it anywhere, and people have been complaining about the twisty LE handle on every year's release now.
531 posts
11 Sep 2023 6:52am
the LE handle felt the same to me as the 23 Unit and 23 Slick. it's nowhere as stiff as say the Strike 3 LE handle. that said it did not bother me at all, but I am also used to it.
burchas
burchas
338 posts
338 posts
11 Sep 2023 8:18am
rmitch said..
@Leepasty have they really in the 24' Units, have you seen them/tried them? It would be great if they have, you would have thought they would have made that a notable feature improvement, there's nothing said about it anywhere, and people have been complaining about the twisty LE handle on every year's release now.


Nope, it's the same crappy LE handle as my Unit V2. I tested both 24' D-Lab and Standard Units.
leepasty
leepasty
424 posts
424 posts
11 Sep 2023 2:26pm
burchas said..

rmitch said..
@Leepasty have they really in the 24' Units, have you seen them/tried them? It would be great if they have, you would have thought they would have made that a notable feature improvement, there's nothing said about it anywhere, and people have been complaining about the twisty LE handle on every year's release now.



Nope, it's the same crappy LE handle as my Unit V2. I tested both 24' D-Lab and Standard Units.


It might look the same on outside and feel same but it has stiffener inside and extra horizontal webbing on the connection to le so there's no play there
burchas
burchas
338 posts
338 posts
11 Sep 2023 10:59pm
leepasty said..

burchas said..


rmitch said..
@Leepasty have they really in the 24' Units, have you seen them/tried them? It would be great if they have, you would have thought they would have made that a notable feature improvement, there's nothing said about it anywhere, and people have been complaining about the twisty LE handle on every year's release now.




Nope, it's the same crappy LE handle as my Unit V2. I tested both 24' D-Lab and Standard Units.



It might look the same on outside and feel same but it has stiffener inside and extra horizontal webbing on the connection to le so there's no play there


A turd with a lipstick on is still a turd I would say that the wing it self is on a completely different level than my Unit V2. If not for the
stupid inflation valve the leading edge handle and the no leash BS I would actually consider buying it.
Goofcat
Goofcat
272 posts
272 posts
12 Sep 2023 9:41am
The V1 Unit was the first and only wing gear I totally regretted buying. The entire experience from purchase, ownership and resale was a let down. Our local Doutone seller is difficult to deal with and they give off the "snobby bike store" vibe, like I was bothering them for trying to spend a thousand dollars at their store. When I got home, I was shocked that the wing came in a plastic sleeve and not a bag, there was no leash, and I had to return to the store to purchase an adaptor. The wing flew like crap, and I sold it at a huge loss a month later.

I really hope they have grown since those early days. But judging by some of the comments here, I'll be staying away longer.
leepasty
leepasty
424 posts
424 posts
13 Sep 2023 2:59am
First go on the 5.5 dlab today and it's epic
check out the reel here-
www.instagram.com/reel/CxGURr6otak/?igshid=MWZjMTM2ODFkZg==





leepasty
leepasty
424 posts
424 posts
19 Sep 2023 3:23am
pumpnjump
pumpnjump
WA
265 posts
WA, 265 posts
7 Jan 2024 5:49pm
Interesting session today, back to back, 5m DLab V1,2 and 3, disappointingly they still have a crappy flagging handle, how hard would it be to get this right, they have also done away with the wing tip valve, why they would do that is beyond me, with Aluula being able to roll with no folds has to be better for the wing, there is now a non sensical extra deflate valve on the leading edge. Sailing wise, they all flag well, but the V3 is super stable, upwind and overpowered the V1 wins hands down, the V1 still has that raw lightweight and exciting to ride (sporty) the V2 is nice but not as aggressive and the V3 has become slightly middle aged and overweight! I'm just a punter who spends a lot on their equipment and must say the V3 is not an upgrade you need to rush out and buy. I use a race foil a fair amount (Mikes Lab Bullet 7) so ride well powered, the V3 doesn't like this and becomes a real hand full.
leepasty
leepasty
424 posts
424 posts
7 Jan 2024 11:10pm
@pumpnjump I'd say you want to compare the v3 4.5 to the v1 5m if you are looking to ride maxed out on a race foil. You should then find the v3 faster and points higher
DWF
DWF
723 posts
DWF DWF
723 posts
8 Jan 2024 5:42am
pumpnjump said..
they have also done away with the wing tip valve, why they would do that is beyond me, with Aluula being able to roll with no folds has to be better for the wing, there is now a non sensical extra deflate valve on the leading edge.


The dump valve was removed from the wing tip to STOP you from rolling it end to end. The long handle, means it needs to be rolled tip to middle, like a kite, then folded backwards to keep the handles from rubbing on each other in the bag. Duotone wants it folded like it was delivered from the factory. There is a warning tag on the wing letting you know the right way to bag the v3.
jondrums
jondrums
186 posts
186 posts
13 Jan 2024 1:59am
I rode the v3 for a few days and it felt exactly like my v2 except the new handles are nice upgrade. I had a slick in the past and missed the boom when I went to my v2. But I think boom wings are cancelled now, the v3 handles do everything a boom does, but better - the boom is straight but the handles on the v3 are at a more comfortable angle, and lower diameter.
MProject04
MProject04
665 posts
665 posts
13 Jan 2024 2:25am
Looking good! I guess the longer front handle allows 1 handed powered riding.
North had a long front handle on their v2.. and then a shorter one on the v3

I'm tempted!
airsail
airsail
QLD
1603 posts
QLD, 1603 posts
13 Jan 2024 5:20am
MProject04 said..
Looking good! I guess the longer front handle allows 1 handed powered riding.
North had a long front handle on their v2.. and then a shorter one on the v3

I'm tempted!


The new north wings have multiple handle lengths, just clip on whatever length you want, even a long boom.
21 posts
14 Jan 2024 8:43pm
airsail said..

MProject04 said..
Looking good! I guess the longer front handle allows 1 handed powered riding.
North had a long front handle on their v2.. and then a shorter one on the v3

I'm tempted!



The new north wings have multiple handle lengths, just clip on whatever length you want, even a long boom.


Thanks for letting us know. Could you please refer to the North website where I find more info on the multiple length handles???thx????
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